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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 26 2014 21:01 GMT
#27
/in
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 28 2014 04:28 GMT
#71
On December 28 2014 13:06 Trfel wrote:
I love how this game turned in to a huge 20 player game while starting out as a mini.

/obs

Have fun everyone!


Why not /in?

Odd numbers are way better for balance anyway.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-28 20:48:38
December 28 2014 20:48 GMT
#92
On December 29 2014 05:45 Trfel wrote:
Sure, it would be great to shadow someone. Though I don't really know how it works.

If I end up shadowing someone, I should be removed from the obs list, then.


As long as you swear not to write any awesome cases for the person you're shadowing...

edit especially if they're about me
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 29 2014 19:47 GMT
#138
On December 30 2014 04:25 GlowingBear wrote:
Damdy, you'll probably be as good as me as a coach. But you can't deny that there are better suited players here to coach the newbies (Artanis; marv, JAT). You still very good bby

Rsoultin, I'm completely okay. Go TEAMbear!!


False
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 31 2014 00:08 GMT
#193
It starts in 4 hours right? Or do we need ppl to sign up still?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 31 2014 09:07 GMT
#392
##vote: geript
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 31 2014 09:44 GMT
#398
On December 31 2014 18:41 Palmar wrote:
Morning.


Good morning
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 31 2014 10:32 GMT
#401
On December 31 2014 18:53 Palmar wrote:
Should I be sheeping you on geript batsnacks?


Sure why not?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 31 2014 21:02 GMT
#709
Has anyone played with DrH before? Is this normal?

I feel like I would be more likely to vote TheChyz if DrH wasn't pushing him.

The thread is about 30 pages long. DrH has about about a 5 page filter, of which ~90% of his filter is tunneling TheChyz.

So ~16% of the game is DrH tunneling TheChyz.

First, I think that's way too much focus on a single person in a 20 person game. DrH is the only person voting TheChyz, and I haven't heard anyone say "I agree with your case DrH," so he's obviously not reaching people.

Second, this post is really townie imo:
On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote:
I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi.

And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me.


So I think my conclusion would be that DrH's tunnel is not helping town.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 31 2014 21:03 GMT
#710
It isn't even my birthday wtf TL
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 31 2014 21:13 GMT
#724
I think robik is mafia. Here is my lame meta read:

Town robik is usually enthusiastic about playing at the start of games and is quick to form reads and call people out.

He's usually really loud about the fact that he's town (as both alignments) and says it over and over again "I'm town you suck." He did that a little bit this game.

Scum robik, i.e. Robik in this game, is obviously in the thread and is responding when his name gets called, but he lacks reads and is not passionate about solving people's alignments. He is only passionate about talking about him.

And this scummy too:
On January 01 2015 05:59 IAmRobik wrote:
I kinda wanna lynch TheChyz to see if DrH is right


##vote: IAmRobik
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 31 2014 21:15 GMT
#731
On January 01 2015 06:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 06:02 batsnacks wrote:
Has anyone played with DrH before? Is this normal?

I feel like I would be more likely to vote TheChyz if DrH wasn't pushing him.

The thread is about 30 pages long. DrH has about about a 5 page filter, of which ~90% of his filter is tunneling TheChyz.

So ~16% of the game is DrH tunneling TheChyz.

First, I think that's way too much focus on a single person in a 20 person game. DrH is the only person voting TheChyz, and I haven't heard anyone say "I agree with your case DrH," so he's obviously not reaching people.

Second, this post is really townie imo:
On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote:
I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi.

And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me.


So I think my conclusion would be that DrH's tunnel is not helping town.

Did you figure all this out on your own? Or did you just read the thread and saw that everyone has been saying this for ages now?


Yes I did all the math myself too.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 31 2014 21:21 GMT
#741
On January 01 2015 06:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 06:15 batsnacks wrote:
On January 01 2015 06:04 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 01 2015 06:02 batsnacks wrote:
Has anyone played with DrH before? Is this normal?

I feel like I would be more likely to vote TheChyz if DrH wasn't pushing him.

The thread is about 30 pages long. DrH has about about a 5 page filter, of which ~90% of his filter is tunneling TheChyz.

So ~16% of the game is DrH tunneling TheChyz.

First, I think that's way too much focus on a single person in a 20 person game. DrH is the only person voting TheChyz, and I haven't heard anyone say "I agree with your case DrH," so he's obviously not reaching people.

Second, this post is really townie imo:
On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote:
I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi.

And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me.


So I think my conclusion would be that DrH's tunnel is not helping town.

Did you figure all this out on your own? Or did you just read the thread and saw that everyone has been saying this for ages now?


Yes I did all the math myself too.

wow


Actually I used google calculator for the math. So technically I didn't do it all myself.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 31 2014 21:24 GMT
#744
On January 01 2015 06:23 sicklucker wrote:
Bats who was your first random vote before robik


My filter isn't even 1 page yo

And I never actually voted. I just typed ##vote: geript in the thread and posted it.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 31 2014 21:44 GMT
#755
Mr DrH what do you think about this:

First TheChyz posts this:
On January 01 2015 01:58 TheChyz wrote:
I don't like how koshi entered the thread. But afterwards he makes a decent defense of me and seems to be able to make a coherent read on me. I don't see a point to defend me as scum so early on with little votes and as such that leans town to me.

I don't see where people are getting this geript thing. If someone can enlighten me but I liked his intros into the thread, nothing amazing but better than the other fluff people were posting. Later on he has seem to slacked off a bit but other than not seeming to scum hunt as much as I'm used he doesn't seem scummy. null for me. Maybe you guys know him better than I and have a bad feeling but I don't see anything conclusive.

I don't like lazer atm. He hasn't really done any scum hunting this game and is rehashing old stuff and using it again. The read on robik is w/e. Robik has done nothing except "activity" posts so obv that doesn't look good as town. However him making a read on those 2 robik posts and having nothing on anybody else apart from me doesn't sit right. His case on me can be thought of both ways and as such is pointless. Basically his reasoning is if I was scum and was asked to push my thoughts I would. But the same case can be made of me as town. I don't like his play atm and want more from him.
##Vote: Lazermonkey


And he earned town points for it:

On January 01 2015 02:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I kinda like how paranoid Chyz is being.

On January 01 2015 02:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Like, everyone's jumping down on his throat and he starts his post with "I don't like how Koshi entered the thread" which is pretty much the only person that really defended him.


Then later he posts this:
On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote:
I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi.

And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me.


And gets more town points:
On January 01 2015 04:00 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote:
I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi.

And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me.

I really like this post for town. You know the old tell about forgiving your attacker that mafia tend to do, because they know the person attacking them is right and they would rather defuse the threat with kindness and cordiality instead of trying to engage someone they know is right?

It's the opposite here. I feel like attacking your forgiver is a good town tell. Mafia don't turn around and get after people who are defending them, and doubly so if they're actually under some significant suspicion. Mafia do numbers-crunching and try to see how many people they can keep on their side and don't try to attack people defending them to gain town credit. It just doesn't make sense.

I feel better about Chyz for this post




Do you think TheChyz is intentionally rehashing the koshi read to gain town points?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 31 2014 21:47 GMT
#756
Maybe intentionally is the wrong word

Do you think TheChyz is strategically rehashing the koshi read to gain town points?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 31 2014 21:48 GMT
#760
On January 01 2015 06:47 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 06:44 batsnacks wrote:
Mr DrH what do you think about this:

First TheChyz posts this:
On January 01 2015 01:58 TheChyz wrote:
I don't like how koshi entered the thread. But afterwards he makes a decent defense of me and seems to be able to make a coherent read on me. I don't see a point to defend me as scum so early on with little votes and as such that leans town to me.

I don't see where people are getting this geript thing. If someone can enlighten me but I liked his intros into the thread, nothing amazing but better than the other fluff people were posting. Later on he has seem to slacked off a bit but other than not seeming to scum hunt as much as I'm used he doesn't seem scummy. null for me. Maybe you guys know him better than I and have a bad feeling but I don't see anything conclusive.

I don't like lazer atm. He hasn't really done any scum hunting this game and is rehashing old stuff and using it again. The read on robik is w/e. Robik has done nothing except "activity" posts so obv that doesn't look good as town. However him making a read on those 2 robik posts and having nothing on anybody else apart from me doesn't sit right. His case on me can be thought of both ways and as such is pointless. Basically his reasoning is if I was scum and was asked to push my thoughts I would. But the same case can be made of me as town. I don't like his play atm and want more from him.
##Vote: Lazermonkey


And he earned town points for it:

On January 01 2015 02:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I kinda like how paranoid Chyz is being.

On January 01 2015 02:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Like, everyone's jumping down on his throat and he starts his post with "I don't like how Koshi entered the thread" which is pretty much the only person that really defended him.


Then later he posts this:
On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote:
I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi.

And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me.


And gets more town points:
On January 01 2015 04:00 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote:
I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi.

And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me.

I really like this post for town. You know the old tell about forgiving your attacker that mafia tend to do, because they know the person attacking them is right and they would rather defuse the threat with kindness and cordiality instead of trying to engage someone they know is right?

It's the opposite here. I feel like attacking your forgiver is a good town tell. Mafia don't turn around and get after people who are defending them, and doubly so if they're actually under some significant suspicion. Mafia do numbers-crunching and try to see how many people they can keep on their side and don't try to attack people defending them to gain town credit. It just doesn't make sense.

I feel better about Chyz for this post




Do you think TheChyz is intentionally rehashing the koshi read to gain town points?

Crackpot theory


Shh I wasn't asking you.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 31 2014 22:01 GMT
#765
Okay now that we have DrH's thoughts I will share my thoughts:

First TheChyz posts this:
On January 01 2015 01:58 TheChyz wrote:
I don't like how koshi entered the thread. But afterwards he makes a decent defense of me and seems to be able to make a coherent read on me. I don't see a point to defend me as scum so early on with little votes and as such that leans town to me.

I don't see where people are getting this geript thing. If someone can enlighten me but I liked his intros into the thread, nothing amazing but better than the other fluff people were posting. Later on he has seem to slacked off a bit but other than not seeming to scum hunt as much as I'm used he doesn't seem scummy. null for me. Maybe you guys know him better than I and have a bad feeling but I don't see anything conclusive.

I don't like lazer atm. He hasn't really done any scum hunting this game and is rehashing old stuff and using it again. The read on robik is w/e. Robik has done nothing except "activity" posts so obv that doesn't look good as town. However him making a read on those 2 robik posts and having nothing on anybody else apart from me doesn't sit right. His case on me can be thought of both ways and as such is pointless. Basically his reasoning is if I was scum and was asked to push my thoughts I would. But the same case can be made of me as town. I don't like his play atm and want more from him.
##Vote: Lazermonkey


In this post TheChyz is giving koshi a town read. This is important for later, remember this. He is town reading koshi because he thinks scum koshi doesn't benefit from defending him.

He earns town points for saying this:

On January 01 2015 02:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I kinda like how paranoid Chyz is being.

On January 01 2015 02:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Like, everyone's jumping down on his throat and he starts his post with "I don't like how Koshi entered the thread" which is pretty much the only person that really defended him.


Then later he posts this:
On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote:
I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi.

And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me.


In this post he is scum reading koshi for exactly the same thing he town read koshi for earlier. He just changed his mind. Why? This is why:

Town points:
On January 01 2015 04:00 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote:
I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi.

And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me.

I really like this post for town. You know the old tell about forgiving your attacker that mafia tend to do, because they know the person attacking them is right and they would rather defuse the threat with kindness and cordiality instead of trying to engage someone they know is right?

It's the opposite here. I feel like attacking your forgiver is a good town tell. Mafia don't turn around and get after people who are defending them, and doubly so if they're actually under some significant suspicion. Mafia do numbers-crunching and try to see how many people they can keep on their side and don't try to attack people defending them to gain town credit. It just doesn't make sense.

I feel better about Chyz for this post




So this is really scummy imo. First he says he town reads koshi for defending him, then he says he scum reads koshi for defending him. I think this is evidence that he is giving out reads to appear townie, not to solve the game.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 31 2014 22:03 GMT
#766
So tldr; artanis liked that TheChyz said koshi was suspicious at first, so TheChyz changed his read on koshi from town to scum.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 31 2014 22:05 GMT
#767
I feel like that doesn't make as much sense as I wanted it to so you might have to read it twice.
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