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since we cant see page 4,5 of
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=47101
this great thread, I'd like to continue on this topic because its so damn interesting
Lemme quote first post of that topic to bring it "back to track" 
On December 02 2006 22:38 twsan wrote:This is driving me crazy.  A Russian professor has posted a picture of a painting done by someone with a severe mental disorder. A single detail of the picture shows that they are insane, but in 15 years, only a single person has figured out what it is. Can you? The person who posted a scan of this painting says the following: * This was painted by a person with a rare and severe mental disorder. He was constantly seeing his own fantasies all around him. He also had a certain phobia (undisclosed). * His (the poster’s) psychiatry professor showed this painting in a lecture, and said there was one tell-tale sign in it that showed the painter’s insanity. * The professor didn’t say what that sign was, leaving the students to do the guesswork. The only clues he gave was, “don’t look for small details, look at the whole; if you figure out what the phobia was, you’ve got the answer; ask yourself what could have preceded this scene; think of what the place would look like with all the objects removed“. * The professor said that during the 15 years of his teaching, only one student had figured it out. http://www.digg.com/health/What_is_the_insane_secret_of_this_paintinghttp://duggmirror.com/health/What_is_the_insane_secret_of_this_painting/EDIT: the painter could be a "she", and the person is real. Name is "A. Kuplin". "Transferred in 1990 from Moscow mental hospital." Damn i just hope the professor's not making up stuff. http://www.museum.ru/Primitiv/carde.asp?num=KO_0001http://www.museum.ru/Outsider/cole_6_1.htm
higher resolution of original picture
One of few theories
On December 02 2006 23:11 skyglow1 wrote:I like this theory from that link: Show nested quote +It's a frozen pond.
The shore is on the right where the 2 skiers are standing. You can see the difference in texture. The ice seems hard with maybe a thin dusting of snow whereas the land has 'softer' , deeper snow accumulation on it.
To the back right of the center house there is a blue patch: this is thin ice. You could go for a stretch and say the fencing in front of it was there to warn of thin ice as is customary, but the fence is in the original painting as well.
The child "dressed" in blue on the middle sled fell through the ice, is frozen and/or sad (both conditions are associated with the color blue).
The horses may be in haste to get the child to the hospital and/or get off the unstable ice. After all, the festival is at the end of winter, usually when ice starts melting. Notice the large C shaped hoof tracks on the far left are rippling out from the thin ice area in the center like waves from something breaking the surface tension. Also notice, that you can overlay a Fibonacci spiral on the hoof tracks with the center of the spiral ending roughly near the blue patch in the center.
"What would you hear if you were in the painting?" -- horse hooves on ice sounds different than horse hooves on snow.
Everything else (except the Fibonacci windows) is just the artist's general attempt to reproduce the original.
Diagnosis: The artist has in the past experienced or is afraid of falling through the ice, getting sucked into a whirlpool and spiraling down into the depths of the water.
dinophobia: Fear of dizziness or whirlpools.
hydrophobia/aquaphobia: Fear of water/drowning. What do you guys think of this one?
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Post the actual painting too!
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On December 02 2006 22:43 twsan wrote:apparently based on this greeting card, but the professor didn't know. although similar, they give me 2 completely different feeling/vibe. One is dark and expressionless, the other lively and more festive...
you mean this ?
edit: this is paint by some russian artist made back in 70s . It was used on postcards... He (ill person) was maybe trying to reproduce it his way
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Well since i posted in the last 2 pages, ill post it again:
If you take out everything but the background(snow and sky), i think the snow would resemble a boob 8) with the nipple being that blue thing to the right of the house in the middle of the painting xD.
So imo, it could be:
gynephobia (fear of women)
genophobia (fear of sex)
I dunno =x
If the painters a woman then i guess it would only be genophobia :O
To the right, theres something with the snow that could resemble legs or whatever, and the flowers and the tree sticked into that depression, does seem a bit subliminal to me :D
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The middle sled has a rocket booster...
(quoted from digg.com)
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Why is it that page 4 and 5 cannot be viewed?
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
Why does the painting look folded or something?
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On December 03 2006 09:15 alpskomleko wrote:
The middle sled has a rocket booster...
(quoted from digg.com)
loooooooool
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On December 03 2006 09:17 KizZBG wrote:
Why does the painting look folded or something?
it was an error in scanning, theres a full picture somewhere in the digg.com thread
i will edit this later with what i wrote in the other thread on page 4+5, im gonna get a shower and eat breakfast right now
edit- i might edit later today, i dont feel like thinking right now
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On December 03 2006 09:17 KizZBG wrote:
Why does the painting look folded or something?
it was made when scanned to pc
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Well the main difference I see between the pictures is the amount of houses there are in the background.
There are no drift marks followed on the snow from the sled.
The sled on the far left looks like a stack of hay.
The bottom left corner looks like some blacken grass or something.
Only significant spot of blue is on the person in the middle.
carriage is green in the original, yellow here.
horse colors seem to have a pattern:
Argh, I was coming to something, but I just forgot and got ahead of myself -_-;
looks like a more up close picture of the original, but with proportional alignment with the sleds and the houses.
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The prof said something like:
"what would you hear if you were inside the painting?" and that the closest was along the lines of fear of open places or some such, and that it also had something to with water or air or whatever... so basically it's a read and find out unless you suffer from a similar disorder or are detective conan.
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On December 03 2006 09:09 Cloud wrote:
Well since i posted in the last 2 pages, ill post it again:
If you take out everything but the background(snow and sky), i think the snow would resemble a boob 8) with the nipple being that blue thing to the right of the house in the middle of the painting xD.
So imo, it could be:
gynephobia (fear of women)
genophobia (fear of sex)
I dunno =x
The blue spot next to the house could also be a navel and somewhere to the right you can see a vagina if you want to. But I only see it, bc you started talking about boobs, so I dunno. It'd be the same phobia anyways, so...
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What a sick sick man!!!!!
I think he has a phobia of getting clothes from his relatives as a gift.
Childhood nightmare. =(
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whats is the proof that its real and not someone fucking with our minds? With the kind of art we have today I seriously have no idea how someone can derive mental illness from a picture of this sort.
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In veryrussian.net some1 said this: THE PROFESSOR HAS ARRIVED. He’s leaving comments in the Russian threads; more in a moment, as I fish some of his comments out (there are 48 pages of discussion to dig through.)
so u will find out the real meaning soon enough
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Well upon closer inspection, I feel as if I'm going insane too -_-
Anyhow, the differences so I have found are:
-No telephone posts... since the person was retarded he/she probably didn't register them as important, so that's not all that big of a deal...
-No bright green colors- all the bright green/teal colors such as the baby stroller and the dude's coat...
-The window in the front house has that extra line out of nowhere, as well as that house to the right... that's probably the insane sign?
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