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goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-08 21:48:02
July 08 2014 21:45 GMT
#24
Edit:
Nvm... Scrapped the questions. Missed it in OP. Interesting looking game in any case.
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
July 09 2014 19:51 GMT
#75
/in as "senior"

if it helps fill the game better idc if I'm someone's junior bitch.
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
July 10 2014 17:47 GMT
#131
/hype

Best part about this setup: if we have 4 LYLO modkills, all teams can still vote
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-10 18:25:54
July 10 2014 18:23 GMT
#142
On July 11 2014 03:20 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Here we go! Slam's gonna come up with the best name for our team.

We should lynch the worst team name.


But what if Kita picks 3/4 of them?
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
July 10 2014 18:42 GMT
#150
On July 11 2014 03:30 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 03:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On July 11 2014 03:27 kitaman27 wrote:
On July 11 2014 03:17 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 11 2014 03:10 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Hmmmm, team name.....

Like.... hmmmm...

IDK!
Help

Team SouthernBaptistRacists


Opps I just realized that Tehpoofter is currently facing a ban so he will need to sit out a game first. marvellosity has joined the SouthernBaptistRacists.


We're not really using that name btw.

And I told him he'd be facing a ban! lol


You are until you submit a different one!

Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 03:23 goodkarma wrote:
On July 11 2014 03:20 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Here we go! Slam's gonna come up with the best name for our team.

We should lynch the worst team name.


But what if Kita picks 3/4 of them?


I saw that pre-edit! I'm watching you...


Ofc I'm just kidding :D
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
July 11 2014 02:08 GMT
#262
/confirm
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
July 11 2014 02:14 GMT
#273
On July 11 2014 11:11 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 11:08 Eden1892 wrote:
On July 11 2014 11:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Eden are you sure you're not Blazinghand?

it would be a great honor


How about a fail.

Let me wisen you up on why BH is not that great of a player.

BH claimed vanilla town in a game I recently played with him. I questioned it, and he got me lynched because of Kenpachi Rule

Let me explain something here, that rule is the stupidest rule EVER!

I was fucking town. And im not going to have you mess up town's win this game just because you think it works.

Id rather vote you pff than deal with that bs again.


This is a new game. Let's not get muddled up in the past.
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
July 11 2014 17:44 GMT
#763
On July 12 2014 02:29 IAmRobik wrote:
See the thing is. Bunnies should be reading me as town, because she read me as town in the very last game we just played. I'm playing very very very similarly (at least of late) in terms of my attitude and what i'm saying. The fact that she's not doing that makes her scummy.

I
AM
TOWN

ExO (on the other hand)
IS
NOT
MAFIA

So there you have it. If I'm town and ExO's not mafia, then that means that we should never be lynched.


If you're so hyper-aware of your prior meta, why wouldn't you as scum try to adjust your play to your towngame?
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
July 11 2014 18:17 GMT
#785
On July 12 2014 02:56 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 02:44 goodkarma wrote:
On July 12 2014 02:29 IAmRobik wrote:
See the thing is. Bunnies should be reading me as town, because she read me as town in the very last game we just played. I'm playing very very very similarly (at least of late) in terms of my attitude and what i'm saying. The fact that she's not doing that makes her scummy.

I
AM
TOWN

ExO (on the other hand)
IS
NOT
MAFIA

So there you have it. If I'm town and ExO's not mafia, then that means that we should never be lynched.


If you're so hyper-aware of your prior meta, why wouldn't you as scum try to adjust your play to your towngame?

Cause I'd rather talk my way out of a lynch as scum without doing that than to ruin my town meta. I'd rather be really easy to read as town and try to get away with being a little bit scummier as scum, than to give a reason for people to doubt my town read. The reason for this is because I enjoy playing town infinitely more than playing scum, so I don't mind getting lynched as scum (though it hasn't happened yet on TL), but I do abhor getting mislynched as town (hasn't happened yet on TL -- and very VERY rarely on other mediums)


Fair enough.

##Unvote
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
July 11 2014 18:57 GMT
#805
On July 12 2014 01:39 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2014 21:13 sinani206 wrote:
hey palmar.

what do you think of robik.

Why does sinani call out palmar in particular? Why hasn't he done anything yet?

OK is better, but not by much. He also asks others of what they think of robik too.
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On July 11 2014 14:57 OnceKing wrote:
So based on what he's said thus far what think you of robik


I'm not sure what to make of this team. I wouldn't mind lynching them.

*insert grape picture here*


Care to elaborate a bit on this? Asking questions and determining others' stances/reads is part of the game. And they have shared reads of their own. You say you wouldn't mind lynching them, yet you say you don't have much of a read on their alignment.
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
July 11 2014 19:12 GMT
#810
On July 12 2014 04:02 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 03:57 goodkarma wrote:
On July 12 2014 01:39 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On July 11 2014 21:13 sinani206 wrote:
hey palmar.

what do you think of robik.

Why does sinani call out palmar in particular? Why hasn't he done anything yet?

OK is better, but not by much. He also asks others of what they think of robik too.
On July 11 2014 14:57 OnceKing wrote:
So based on what he's said thus far what think you of robik


I'm not sure what to make of this team. I wouldn't mind lynching them.

*insert grape picture here*


Care to elaborate a bit on this? Asking questions and determining others' stances/reads is part of the game. And they have shared reads of their own. You say you wouldn't mind lynching them, yet you say you don't have much of a read on their alignment.

I don't.
But I wouldn't mind lynching them, because at that time, sinani had done practically nothing, and OK wasn't doing much either.
Sinani's question struck me as strange.
And I noticed that they both asked about robik.


So it would have been a lurker lynch then? They've had reads and stuff at this point. Has your stance changed? And what does robik have to do with this? You assuming that they'd be scum railing against a townie robik? You haven't indicated you have any kind of townie read on robik.

This is your last stance on him from your filter:

On July 12 2014 01:16 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 00:57 IAmRobik wrote:
TOWNIEST POST IN THE MOTHA FUCKIN THREAD. THIS GUY IS SO FUCKING BRUTALLY TOWN. IF ANYONE VOTES TO LYNCH HIM, YOU WILL FACE MY WRATH

On July 12 2014 00:54 ExO_ wrote:
Some thoughts:

Team D-

I tend to have weird hours that I can be on, and I'm not just reading the TL forums 24/7, so while I can't always be as active as robik saying I'm not doing anything now isn't really giving me a fair shake in my opinion (@27ninjabunnies).

Every game I've seen 27nb in she goes around being very caustic and arrogant towards some people, and very nice to others. It seems to be regardless of her alignment. I find it to be unhelpful, as she goes off on tangents with wild accusations filled with bullshit reasoning for scum reads.

What this means in terms of the game is it's hard for me to read her as mafia or town. But I think she does more to cause problems in a town, than actually help with finding scum and uniting the town players.

Poofter isn't saying much and is kinda letting her get out in front. I don't know how to interpret that, but in World Cup poofter stayed kinda quiet until it came time to push me in the wrong directions. Nearly worked too .

So a null read on the team but I generally think constantly creating a toxic atmosphere for the town is a bad thing even if they are town.

Team Whine
Slam is posting a fuck ton of 1 liners/pictures/general nonsense (hijole?) and sqrtofneg1 is saying nothing at all. In larger games I think mafia lurking works better than in a smaller game such as this, but it's almost nothing to read off of. Will have to wait to see what they vote day 1 and what happens night 1 to really know what to think of them.

Team VendettaStrada
I'm not sure if they're both posting from the same account, but it looks like it's all raynpelioneet. In my limited experience here I haven't seen him before, and though he hasn't posted a fuck ton of stuff, seems townish it to me. Looks like he's contributing.

Team needs a lawyer
I always kinda read HaruRH scummy, he has a little bit of omgus going on, but I miss read him in world cup so it gives me pause. So I look over at glowing bear, and he hasn't said a whole lot either. Just got caught up in the Kenpachi business. But doesn't really read town to me. I lean scum here, but I'm hesitant.

Team Magic Carpet
Not a lot of posts from straightform just asking questions "Robik why won't u post?, Why would exo/robik not posting Day 1 not be bad for town" etc... Palmar calls out team lawyer for not posting anything of value, but I see very little of value from him at all. After reading his filter i think Palmar is the most scummy looking person so far in the thread.
*scum read*

Team GoodCornBadCorn
Completely afk. Like 1 combined other than their /in posts. like what....? Do they not know the game is happening? No reads yet for obvious reasons

Team Crotch Rocket
Not a lot being said from good Karma. Eden is posting quite a bit, and seems okay. I don't think mafia are going to be quite as active as eden is being, but it could be good coaching happening. Town read for now though

Team Fraud walRus
Sinani saying hardly anything, OnceKing's vote on our team I think is bad: it's based on robik not playing the game, when robik has been pretty active. Hasn't really expanded on any reads and got pretty caught up in ol' kenpachi but I don't get a scum vibe from him. Null read

Team M squared
mderg hasn't said too much, but I've generally liked and agreed with what marv has to say. I think Town


So that leaves me with

Town
M squared
Vendetta Strata (aka how can I make a parody of that team name)
Rocket Crotch


Null
D-
Whine*
Goodcornbadcorn*
Fraud walRus

Scum
Lawyer
Magic Carpet

*Mostly afk


Unfortunately, I think I shall cast some doubt on this post.
Some of these town reads are kind of fishy.
Ex:
Show nested quote +

Not a lot being said from good Karma. Eden is posting quite a bit, and seems okay. I don't think mafia are going to be quite as active as eden is being, but it could be good coaching happening. Town read for now though
Not my cup of tea.
Or this one
Show nested quote +

I'm not sure if they're both posting from the same account, but it looks like it's all raynpelioneet. In my limited experience here I haven't seen him before, and though he hasn't posted a fuck ton of stuff, seems townish it to me. Looks like he's contributing.

I'm not so sure he's town. But the post is definitely the best post so far. But some of these reads seem fabricated.
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goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
July 11 2014 22:19 GMT
#879
My partner and I are in agreement.

##Vote: Team Cabernet
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
July 11 2014 22:56 GMT
#897
On July 12 2014 07:54 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 07:50 OnceKing wrote:
hey koshi you around? would you like to lynch sqrt?

So why do you push this so hard, yet won't tell me what is up?



I OMGUS freely


It's called reading the thread. You should try it sometime.
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
July 12 2014 15:24 GMT
#1115
I'd like to address a few thoughts expressed in the thread briefly:

1) "Slam tries to be unreadable so idk.": Don't know much about Slam's meta, but honestly when have you had someone spam thread like Slam has and not been mafia. Also you have the other half, which also has played scummy.

2) "Not sure about Cabernet being mafia because no counter-bus.": Assuming Cabernet is mafia (which is super-likely), you only have one other scum team. So it's very possible said other team isn't active about it. It's very possible said team is bussing. But it's also possible they've tried and there's no traction. Possible since not everyone is on Cabernet atm... This is a very WIFOM arguement tbh.

3) "Cabernet has good chance of being mafia, but I dislike person XYZ more.": Cabernet is set to be lynched today, and for good reason. I've seen pretty much no one say they feel good about Cabernet, like they are giving townie vibes. You should lynch them because even if you have a shadow of a doubt, they have literally said they've given up. How do you expect to get a better read at them should they stay alive til LYLO?

To those of you who haven't consolidated on Cabernet yet:

Vote Team Cabernet. Show them your grapes of wrath.
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
July 12 2014 15:51 GMT
#1120
On July 13 2014 00:28 Alakaslam wrote:
There is nothing to defend against you are all such sheep this game that I once again say all I have for you is pure acid

"Slam doesn't defend sqrt but his case wasn't even all that strong"

WHEN YOU YELLED LIKE WE WERE CONFIRMED SCUM! LOOK AT THE BULLSHIT LINKS THEY GAVE ME SUCH SHIT

NOW THEY ADMIT IT BECAUSE THEY ARE SCUM AND THEY ARE AFRAID I OUTED THEM

NOTICE ONLY TWO PEOPLE ARE PUSHING ME SO HARD AND THE REST ARE LOKE "meh well he didn't defend (lol!) and poly morphed into wormwood so I guess he is scum"

AS UNPLEASANT AS IT IS

READ MY FILTER


There's almost nothing in your filter but complaining and image spam. You may have mentioned you didn't like Eden/OnceKing/maybe ninja, but there's been no followup. You bring it up and go into full spam/martyr mode. The way you've behaved, I'll see you lynched. Not just you, but your partner have been super-scummy all game. If you somehow actually are town, follow up on reads/make meaningful case points. The clock's a-tickin'.
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
July 12 2014 16:09 GMT
#1125
On July 13 2014 00:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 00:51 goodkarma wrote:
On July 13 2014 00:28 Alakaslam wrote:
There is nothing to defend against you are all such sheep this game that I once again say all I have for you is pure acid

"Slam doesn't defend sqrt but his case wasn't even all that strong"

WHEN YOU YELLED LIKE WE WERE CONFIRMED SCUM! LOOK AT THE BULLSHIT LINKS THEY GAVE ME SUCH SHIT

NOW THEY ADMIT IT BECAUSE THEY ARE SCUM AND THEY ARE AFRAID I OUTED THEM

NOTICE ONLY TWO PEOPLE ARE PUSHING ME SO HARD AND THE REST ARE LOKE "meh well he didn't defend (lol!) and poly morphed into wormwood so I guess he is scum"

AS UNPLEASANT AS IT IS

READ MY FILTER


There's almost nothing in your filter but complaining and image spam. You may have mentioned you didn't like Eden/OnceKing/maybe ninja, but there's been no followup. You bring it up and go into full spam/martyr mode. The way you've behaved, I'll see you lynched. Not just you, but your partner have been super-scummy all game. If you somehow actually are town, follow up on reads/make meaningful case points. The clock's a-tickin'.

You suck.

You actually suck.

Or you are lying and didn't read, deserve to lose/scum


And that's literally been the only argument I've seen for your scumsuspects. OMGUS.

But let's for a moment assume that you're a townie. You act like scum. And your partner acts like scum. Why is it so hard for you to believe that while you continue to act like scum, there could be townies pushing your wagon?

Until you present some kind of case or meaningful argument there's really nothing more to be said. You should be lynched. If you really are town that's martyred yourself you should be banned for playing against your wincon.

On July 13 2014 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 00:53 Koshi wrote:
When is the lynch? It's long right?

Idgaf you are all so blind and tunneled it is poimtless and has been once my actual content was ignored


I'm more than happy to see this "actual content" btw. I have yet to see it myself after going through your filter a few times over. Perhaps summarize/repost?
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
July 12 2014 22:29 GMT
#1307
On July 13 2014 07:21 OnceKing wrote:
I have no clue where sinani or goodkarma are but it doesn't concern me since they're both town


I'm kind of laying back a bit since Eden's doing such a good job.

I'm here most of the weekend, so if there's anything in particular you (or anyone else) want to discuss with me specifically just let me know.
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
July 13 2014 17:44 GMT
#1454
All I can say is alakaslam better be banned for a long time...

As for bunnies, I agree it is definitely odd that she defends Cabernet. It's also worth noting that she is definitely aware of her image.:

On July 13 2014 07:18 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 07:09 Eden1892 wrote:
On July 13 2014 07:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Also, if Slamroot flips town, tell me, what information will we gain from it?

none

as with every town lynch ever


Wrong. You can see who pushed hardest. You can see who defended hardest.

You can also see who just sheeped.

So much info gained.



Also:

On July 13 2014 19:41 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 00:24 goodkarma wrote:
I'd like to address a few thoughts expressed in the thread briefly:

1) "Slam tries to be unreadable so idk.": Don't know much about Slam's meta, but honestly when have you had someone spam thread like Slam has and not been mafia. Also you have the other half, which also has played scummy.

2) "Not sure about Cabernet being mafia because no counter-bus.": Assuming Cabernet is mafia (which is super-likely), you only have one other scum team. So it's very possible said other team isn't active about it. It's very possible said team is bussing. But it's also possible they've tried and there's no traction. Possible since not everyone is on Cabernet atm... This is a very WIFOM arguement tbh.

3) "Cabernet has good chance of being mafia, but I dislike person XYZ more.": Cabernet is set to be lynched today, and for good reason. I've seen pretty much no one say they feel good about Cabernet, like they are giving townie vibes. You should lynch them because even if you have a shadow of a doubt, they have literally said they've given up. How do you expect to get a better read at them should they stay alive til LYLO?

To those of you who haven't consolidated on Cabernet yet:

Vote Team Cabernet. Show them your grapes of wrath.

ugh


lol

goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
July 14 2014 14:55 GMT
#1635
On July 14 2014 23:46 IAmRobik wrote:
I'm going to make a statement that everyone is gonna rip me for cause it's a bit contradictory and it's doesn't really progress the thread too much but,


The night kills point to rayn/slendy being mafia.


I actually agree with this to some extent.

A bit of WIFOM to be sure, but if you look at their activity levels, and what little they've contributed I'd say the evidence starts stacking against them.

I'd like to wait until Rayne gets back before jumping to conclusions but this is very possible.
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
July 14 2014 14:57 GMT
#1637
Activity levels I would argue are a pretty valid metric for hydra games. With twice as many people on a scum team to flub up, really the optimal strategy for scum is to be lurky imo.
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