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Lazermonkey
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Lazermonkey
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Protip: Town is far more inclined to scum slip than scum are. Also, am I missing something or is all of your (Bunnies, that is) accusations against YKZ that he scum slipped? Because you really seem confident in that he is scum. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On June 17 2014 02:09 Lazermonkey wrote: Ow and btw. The same question goes to Release because you accusations against YKZ is basically identicall to Bunnies.Hey everyone! Protip: Town is far more inclined to scum slip than scum are. Also, am I missing something or is all of your (Bunnies, that is) accusations against YKZ that he scum slipped? Because you really seem confident in that he is scum. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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Assuming that he is trying to create chaos by missinterpreting Bunnies is a big leap of faith. I also do think that there is merit to the Kenpachi rule in this case. Even if Bunnies said nummerous times that the VT claim wasn't the reason she voted for YKZ, she still pointed out two times: On June 16 2014 09:42 27ninjabunnies wrote: Awwwww, how rude. Don't you know you are supposed to talk to a person when they are talking to you? Also-she. And Why right off the bat claim vt? On June 16 2014 09:50 27ninjabunnies wrote: YKZ is smurf. And at first, I just put him on the list to get conversation going. I don't like that he wants to ignore me completely. And that he has to immediately come out and say he is vt. Looking at these two posts, you get the impression that Bunnies is indeed suspicious of YKZ because of the claim. Bunnies later on refutes this by saying that her suspicion of YKZ had nothing to do with the VT claim, HOWEVER: On June 16 2014 09:52 27ninjabunnies wrote: Also, another point to why I don't like YKZ is the bolded. He says I have limited information. How would he know that I am town? Well, if he was mafia he would know that I am town. So ##Vote: YKZ Note the bolded part. It doesn't say "look, this is a really scummy thing YKZ said", it says "look, this is another point I don't like". If she didn't care about him claiming VT, why say that it was another part she didn't like? If there is something that I find null in someones filter I don't say "Hey, this is wierd". I just don't say a thing about it. And the thing is that Bunnies doesn't say anything about this untill YKZ votes her with because of the Kenpachi rule. It is therefore impossible for us to know whether she is talking the truth or not about not caring about the VT thing. Her actions in the thread does, however, indicate that this was something she cared about. Which makes me belive that all this was just a massive backpaddle by Bunnies after she got caught doing scummy stuff. ##Vote: 27ninjabunnies | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On June 17 2014 03:21 slOosh wrote: Lazermonkey, what is the "scummy stuff" that bunnies is backpedaling from? The quick version: 1. Bunnies says that YKZ's VT claim is wierd and that she doesn't like it. 2. Bunnies says that ANOTHER thing the she doesn't like about YKZ is his "scum slip". Bunnes votes for YKZ. 3. YKZ votes Bunnies because Kenpachi rule. 4. Bunnies claims that the VT claim wasn't a reason she voted YKZ. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On June 17 2014 03:26 27ninjabunnies wrote: It may be that I worded myself poorly. Look at my response to SlOosh. The fact that you voted YKZ before he voted you is exactly what I am getting at. You didn't say anything about that the VT claim wasn't important untill after he voted you because of Kenpachi.@Lazer- it is no lie that I was weirded out by the vt claim. You can obviously see that. but notice I voted YKZ before he voted me. So your last paragraph makes no sense? I don't vote YKZ until he votes me with kenpachi rule? I voted before that and he omgus the vote instead of actually giving reasons as to why I am scummy. Also, yes, the other point was the limited information. Still not sure how this makes me scummy? Your logic here to me seems super bad. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On June 17 2014 03:33 27ninjabunnies wrote: Okay, I'm not really interested in discussing this further with you. My goal isn't to make you confess in the thread. Its to convince the others.4. It wasn't the MAIN reason I voted YKZ. It is basically that it is impossible for us to know that what you are claiming is true or not. Based on what you wrote earlier I do find it more likely that you are scum than that you are town though. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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It is true that Artanis made a neuanced question when there was an option to push Snickers. But if you think he is town because of that then you are working under the assumption that scum will always push anyone given the opportunity. This is simply not true. There wasn't any reason for him to start a counterwagon (I mean, there could be a reason but since we don't know any players alignment yet, this is a stupid conclusion to make). There are definitely reasons for scum to buddy up with town. Therefore, I don't think that argument is a very strong one. | ||
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On June 17 2014 05:58 Snickers wrote: I'm not super interested in explaining why I think that you look like a noobie : D. Your first couple of posts had some common logical fallacies IMO but that's not really relevant. I want to kill scum.Please explain why i am newbie. People keep throwing around a lot of comments with assumptions. I'm just trying to clear that up. Release completely missed the fact that 27nb said vt twice before her lynch post. In my opinion releases huge first comment is based off something that is wrong. This does not mean it has zero merit. Release was complaining something along the line of ykz being misleading. I think it is misleading to boost a huge case on something and not even notice that 27nb did something that may(I think it does) against his case. It seems release is not intelligent or is trying to mislead Yep, your post about 27nb was alot like the point I was making, which is a good sign since I know that I'm town. I agree with that Release case on 27nb was bad but I'm not not convinced at all that that's because he is scum. He can very well be tunneling town as well. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On June 17 2014 06:17 Snickers wrote: Fair enough.I think it is relevant. What is the point of posting something and not proving it when somebody asks you about it? I think it just makes you look misleading.  You didn't know standard terminology in the beginning of the game. You also made a connection between YKZ and Bunnies alignment, which SlOosh called you out for. Pointed out some obvious stuff in your first post to Release. Point is, Newbie=/=scummy. Your logic seems good and I don't feel like lynching you at all right now. | ||
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On June 17 2014 06:36 27ninjabunnies wrote: Wat. Or he is scum not giving out information. This should be a null tell IMO.YEs, I do. I just don't like the reasoning of Artanis not wanting to comment on either YKZ or me. I find this more townie, because he is looking for scum outside of us and trying to get reads outside of us. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On June 17 2014 06:34 27ninjabunnies wrote: Not sure if you want me dead, or want to have sex with me. Both are quite disturbing images. So yeah, not getting the picture here. Well, Chezinu is Chezinu. But I think he wants to kill you. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On June 17 2014 06:55 27ninjabunnies wrote: No, I think its null... It seems that you have already decided that Artanis is town because you interpret every action he does as if he was town...You view it as scummy, i view it as townie. I don't see what you mean by not giving information. The only way that would work is if one us either me or YKZ was scum WITH artanis. But I dn't see that. He is still attempting to get information outside of us. W/e good night | ||
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On June 17 2014 20:42 mderg wrote: That´s some solid reasoning there. At least be specific in some way. Right now your case on me is basically that my post feels kinda scummy. Also I can assure you that it´s not all you get from me this cycle. "You may theoretically not post any more in this cycle, so I´m fine lynching you". Like you´re not even interested in my play and just want me lynched for starting the game a bit late. Overall a really lazy vote on me without much to back it up. Wait a minute. If his case on you is that your posts feel kinda scummy then it makes perfect sense. If you agree with his reasoning, however, is another story. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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Meanwhile, Bunnies is posting alot and while I'm still suspicious of him I'd rather kill Mderg. More details when I get home in a few hours. ##Unvote ##Vote: Mderg | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On June 18 2014 01:34 mderg wrote: I don´t really understand your first point. My coming alive has nothing to do with the vote on me. Why wouldn´t I defend myself against a terrible vote, though? How is my read on release not clear? He is slightly scummy to me. What gives me some townie vibes is the timing of people piling on him. Instantly after the case without really reasoning much themselves. Also the case by Artanis is not nonexistent. It´s clear that Release´s focus on the back and forth between YKZ and bunnies was strange because there was not actually much in there. So the huge ass posts that give no additional reason other than YKZ is trying to confuse town seem scummy. I don´t think sloosh´s case on Artanis is very strong, like the part about ignoring YKZ and bunnies when it´s difficult to get a scumread on either of them, they´re difficult to figure out with their repetitive arguing against each other. His reasons make sense but theres nothing that clearly points scum to me. Why did you even need to ctrl+f my filter for that? I generally don´t ask that many direct questions, I rather point things out that I find strange and most of the time people respond to these things. So it should have about the same effect as asking questions. Quick question about the bolded part: Explain to me (like if I was five) how that gives you a townie vibe? | ||
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