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On March 29 2014 00:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: 4.Tehpoofter - new, cool On March 29 2014 00:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: 16. Amiko - new  | ||
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Dreams of Button The important thing about the button to me is that it takes a night action to interact with it; this implies to me that many players have night actions so there is a tradeoff for button interaction. If players don't have night actions, I think they should usually guard the button since it grants more information. Regardless of whether we think it's better to push or deactivate the button, I think it might be good to have a rotation of two or more people per night who promise to guard the button and report the following day what they saw. May give reads if their stories don't match up, but also prevents pressing/disabling the button. I don't have a firm idea of how this would work yet, but if it sounds like something to try then talk with me about it and we can work on the button defense draft. Game so far @WaveofShadow: I'd think I would like a gift if you have some left. There aren't any terrible consequences, are there? I'm… allergic to those. Is it better to give or to receive? Re: Balla - I took Balla’s suggestion for random voting to be a joke, but he sort of spends four posts addressing it. I don’t think it took as long as Dandel’s post, but when I read gumshoe’s post here (link) criticizing time spent without information gained it rang a little true for Balla as well. Killing (& strongandbig) I didn’t get the gutread when I first read it, but when I read strongandbig’s post here (link) it resonated. zzz | ||
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On Balla Responding to (link) Balla posting a random vote suggestion should not be taken as a serious suggestion, it just doesn’t match my view of his style at all. I could believe he wanted to develop reads from the post. I am a little surprised that Balla rejoined the thread later just for this post, though (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447045-catastrophe-mafia?page=46#915) since people have been serious about the game. It just feels out of place. @tehpoofter: I know you are calling Balla a girl in those that post and I remember rereading another game where you did the same thing. Would you share your reasons for pretending to misunderstand his gender? Did it give you any reads or useful information in the other game? On LSB On April 03 2014 17:29 Tehpoofter wrote: LSB has talked almost entirely about the button and nothing more. Not really sure how much that speaks to his alignment but he is really interested in it it seems not sure if its just flavor To me its all null at this point leaning slightly scummy as it could be a roll hunt type thing associated with the button. I see this as null. Would you explain why you see role hunting regarding button as a slightly scummy move? It seems to me that button-related roles could be scummy as easily as they could be towny. Response to WaveofShadow re: my first post[/u] @WaveofShadow: You say that I commented on the most useless things in the game. However, I commented on kiling’s post, agreeing with strongandbig. Why do you think that is useless, particularly given that you asked about the post here? On April 03 2014 09:54 WaveofShadow wrote: lolwut Am I the only one who liked Dandel's post? Do you feel like Palmar’s later post here is also useless (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447045-catastrophe-mafia?page=41#811)? As for me, I’m new to forum mafia, I have played some real life games before. This is my only completed game on this site, it is relatively short if you care to read it. @WaveofShadow: Would you comment on my first post regarding the button? You said it was useless to discuss those topics; if you think that is the case, please explain to me why. @ marvellosity Re: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447045-catastrophe-mafia?page=36#701 I read the post while I was in the bath :3 Re: Robik On April 03 2014 19:57 IAmRobik wrote: For the record: I don't think that I can be night killed, so mislynching me is THE ONLY way that I'm going to die this game. Robik states that he is immune to nightkills. I read this as claim he is a 3rd party role because town would want to stay unclaimed to soak mafia KP. He could be 3rd party, he could be scum, but I don’t feel he is town. @marvellosity You called Robik town. Do you think town robik would claim to be immune to nightkills? @marvellosity: On April 04 2014 03:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: I concede to the first sentence. I think you are the only person who can reasonably tell me they are better than me. You should save this post too. @Foolishness: unsubscribe -- So moving forward- Re: Paperscraps I do not believe there is an item that requires Paperscraps write backwards. Robik mentions that it would be a pain on Daniel (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447045-catastrophe-mafia?page=36#704］link[/url]), as does marvellosity (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447045-catastrophe-mafia?page=36#712］link[/url]), and that’s true. Syllogism correctly points out it is easy to automate reversing your posts (link). But, these comments miss the stronger reason I do not believe him: the burden on the hosts. Hosts who would have to read each and every post carefully to ensure it is properly reverse-formatted. So, I disbelieve Daniel/paperscraps and feel it’s scummy. ##Vote: Paperscraps | ||
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Hello in this thread! You indicate you like that I proposed a button guard plan. That's nice, but do you think the plan would be at all helpful for town? I think more people would have to guard it than I suggested but I still feel like it would be a good move to have some people semi-accountable to tell town who they saw visit the button. Also On April 04 2014 08:04 kitaman27 wrote: rayn, why no mass claim suggestion? Scum points for you. For context to other readers, raynpelikoneet encouraged a d1 massclaim in the Dr. Who game (game is ongoing). In that game, he felt that in a highly-roled game, massclaiming was beneficial to town, and later flipped blue. It seems to me that this game that would be more the case, because I felt massclaiming would be scarier in a game with conversion-mechanics and this game (probably) does not have them in game. | ||
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You mention you get bad but not scummy vibes from Robik. Can you comment on this: On April 04 2014 08:01 Amiko wrote: Re: Robik Robik states that he is immune to nightkills. I read this as claim he is a 3rd party role because town would want to stay unclaimed to soak mafia KP. He could be 3rd party, he could be scum, but I don’t feel he is town. I asked marv, let me ask you too- @kitaman27: Do you think town robik would claim to be immune to nightkills? | ||
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On April 04 2014 08:01 Amiko wrote: Re: Paperscraps I do not believe there is an item that requires Paperscraps write backwards. Robik mentions that it would be a pain on Daniel (link), as does marvellosity (link), and that’s true. Syllogism correctly points out it is easy to automate reversing your posts (link). But, these comments miss the stronger reason I do not believe him: the burden on the hosts. Hosts who would have to read each and every post carefully to ensure it is properly reverse-formatted. So, I disbelieve Daniel/paperscraps and feel it’s scummy. ##Vote: Paperscraps It's not a case but I think it's a fair reason to disbelieve his reverse-curse writing. | ||
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On April 04 2014 08:24 kitaman27 wrote: I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other on this one. I'm immune to nightkills too! Are you also scum/3rd party? :3 | ||
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Hey you are in thread! Thoughts on paperscraps? Specifically, (a) do you think he is lying about his writing restriction, (b) if he is lying is it more likely he is lying as town or scum? | ||
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?about dishonest being is Blazinghand think you do What :@Paperscraps ?so do to willing be you would wording your reversing stop to this like you ask I If :@Paperscraps | ||
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I'll try to focus on other players. I don't feel talking about the button is fluff. I guess it became fluff since people haven't really engaged with my idea in a meaningful way, so I'll drop it with just one other comment: @WaveofShadow On April 04 2014 09:17 WaveofShadow wrote: Re: button---absolutely no reason to talk about after the 'fluff' stage. It was pregame and there is no indication there is even any button IN this game. Wat? The setup posts talk about "the device" - it seems to me it is in the game. Anyway, I'm willing to stop pushing the conversation, but I'll gladly revisit it if anyone else wants to discuss it. --------------- --------------- Paperscraps I posted some comments about paperscraps earlier. I also like marv's point. Here's another thing which I think makes him a good lynch: First, paper is asking blazinghand to be more honest. On April 04 2014 08:41 Paperscraps wrote: .run long the in you help will It .though honest more be should You .dude cool pretty a like seem You .friends be should we ,Blazing Later, he seems to want to back off Blazinghand. On April 04 2014 10:46 Paperscraps wrote: .moment the at reprieve a warrant to Enough .genuine somewhat seemed me against attack his but ,forum a on "heated" or "mad" being fake to easier is it know I .now for BlazingHand off back all can We He could be just reading Blazing as a third party (encouraging him to reveal his goals) particularly given his intervening post (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447045-catastrophe-mafia?page=79#1574). | ||
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@kitaman27 On April 04 2014 23:21 kitaman27 wrote: I take back my town read on Amiko. He has focused on two topics this game: paper's backwards writing and robik's immunity claim. When I point out that the self imposed post restriction is just as likely to be a town action, he doesn't attempt to convince me otherwise or really state his opinion of the matter at all, even though it is his only reason for the vote as far as I can tell. This comment feels disingenuous to me. You gave the following response to me regarding paperscraps- On April 04 2014 08:34 kitaman27 wrote: My guess is that he is faking it. He starts off the game with a normal post, which means non-role related and GreYMisT historically doesn't create a ton of those type of roles (if any?). Town players are just as likely to fake a restriction as mafia though. Maybe ask him nicely to stop? I considered what you said and it's why I posted On April 04 2014 08:45 Amiko wrote: ?about dishonest being is Blazinghand think you do What :@Paperscraps I asked paperscraps some questions so I could get some information and evaluate whether he was town or mafia. I think he's ignored me completely which doesn't make him any more towny in my eyes. Also, for what it's worth, I did also ask paperscraps to stop (nicely, in his own format) as you suggested, so I think it's incorrect to suggest I ignored your post. On April 04 2014 08:45 Amiko wrote: ?so do to willing be you would wording your reversing stop to this like you ask I If :@Paperscraps Also, I thought your comment that puts you in a similar boat to Robik was interesting, and I wanted to know if you were serious... but we can talk about that later. | ||
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I don't feel his play lines up much with his play in Newbie LIV. I observed that game and was pretty attentive. For one, he seemed reluctant to fake claim a role; that is one of the reasons I felt he was serious about being immune to nightkills. His aggression varies a lot from game to game. In my first newbie game I played with Robik and he was pretty pleasant, but I've seem him go aggro in other games. I still think he is most likely to be a 3rd party, potentially scum, so I wouldn't want to kill him. @IAmRobik let's win together? @tehpoofter: You argue toward voting Robik here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21119066 Did you have any comments on my perception that Robik is likely 3rd Party, potentially scum based on claiming to be immune to nightkills? I didn't know you were banks. I remember the name from video mafia... but I actually can't remember which player you are. LOL. @Palmar Do you have any reads on hopeless1der? | ||
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I feel Robik is unlikely to be town because he claimed to be immune to nightkills. If he is town, he should want mafia to target him to soak KP. I feel Robik's claim was not joking for a few reasons, but among them it's because I feel he is a player who is reluctant to fakeclaim. Another reason: it feels more believable since kita also claimed to be immune to nightkills. So, I feel he is 3p or scum, more likely 3p because I don't think scum would claim it so early. I don't see why town would claim it at all. | ||
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On April 05 2014 03:00 LSB wrote: Why would they out themselves if they had a separate win condition from the town? Palmar seems to indicate that not all third parties are antitown I actually think 3p would be a good asset for town since the roles in this game seem weird (at least looking at my own, lol). I am glad to seek a jointwin. | ||
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