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LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 03 2014 22:33 GMT
#87
On February 04 2014 07:16 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 07:13 JonnyLaw wrote:
Half the game won't meet those requirements. Being nice is too hard. People are lazy.

Lynching lurkers is fine but your 40 posts are ambitious.

Who isn't going to meet those requirements?


You've played with me before...
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 03 2014 22:40 GMT
#90
On February 04 2014 07:38 Koshi wrote:
Also. Mr. Stray Kitten. Just say what you think whenever you think it.


Well, for starters I don't quite agree with your "minimum post count" thing. I'll support a lurker lynch if it's necessary, but based on amount of content, not number of posts.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 03 2014 22:45 GMT
#92
On February 04 2014 07:43 Balla24 wrote:
No not at all, I just want you to commit.

Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 07:33 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 04 2014 07:16 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2014 07:13 JonnyLaw wrote:
Half the game won't meet those requirements. Being nice is too hard. People are lazy.

Lynching lurkers is fine but your 40 posts are ambitious.

Who isn't going to meet those requirements?


You've played with me before...


What are you trying to say? You don't want the requirement cause you know you can't meet it? Or Koshi is supposed to know you already will disagree with his plan?

##vote LoneMeow


Trying to say he should already know how likely it is that I'll reach that requirement.
(In case you haven't followed any games I've been in: Extremely unlikely.)

And that has very little to do with whether I agree or disagree with his plan.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 04 2014 10:44 GMT
#225
On February 04 2014 19:38 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 11:48 JonnyLaw wrote:
Meh, okay so she dislikes everything I say. I think they mean the same thing. I guess it could be taken as she thinks im misguided sometimes rather than simply scummy.

Her question seemed legit enough but balla's right. At the start of day 1 I want to see what someone is willing or able to bring to the game. There's no point saying much until they show what they're committing.

At this point LM's first post was shit but says nothing about his alignment until other actions take place in the game.

Koshi on the other hand created two pages of shit posting. This allowed LM and other LM like people to pop in, say nothing and fuck off out of here acting as though they participated in the game.

How am I scum for things that other people do? JL says this:
LM is null.
Koshi is scum because LM acted like he participated in the game and then fucked off.
There are other people like LM who are faking to participate in the game.


Does this make JonnyLaw scum or just town using broken logic?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 04 2014 10:44 GMT
#226
Filter links to player list, pretty please?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 04 2014 10:55 GMT
#228
On February 04 2014 19:49 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 19:44 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 04 2014 19:38 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2014 11:48 JonnyLaw wrote:
Meh, okay so she dislikes everything I say. I think they mean the same thing. I guess it could be taken as she thinks im misguided sometimes rather than simply scummy.

Her question seemed legit enough but balla's right. At the start of day 1 I want to see what someone is willing or able to bring to the game. There's no point saying much until they show what they're committing.

At this point LM's first post was shit but says nothing about his alignment until other actions take place in the game.

Koshi on the other hand created two pages of shit posting. This allowed LM and other LM like people to pop in, say nothing and fuck off out of here acting as though they participated in the game.

How am I scum for things that other people do? JL says this:
LM is null.
Koshi is scum because LM acted like he participated in the game and then fucked off.
There are other people like LM who are faking to participate in the game.


Does this make JonnyLaw scum or just town using broken logic?

I give him a point in the scum collomn.

Don't know what Jonny his deal is but he has been hostile towards me from the get go. He answered pretty hostile on my policy thing, but that was null. But then he taunted me with the PYP Inventor thing and I was just "ok w.e". And now he is saying that due to my shitposting people can act scummy, but those people are null.


He's generally very hostile to anyone he thinks is scum when town, though, so I wouldn't read too much into that.

I find it suspicious that he is angry about me "fucking off" then right in the next post says you're probably not posting because you're asleep - we both have country tags visible so he should've applied the same logic to figure out that I was probably also sleeping.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 04 2014 10:56 GMT
#229
What do you make of Balla24's vote/unvote on me?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 04 2014 11:17 GMT
#233
On February 04 2014 20:08 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 19:56 LoneMeow wrote:
What do you make of Balla24's vote/unvote on me?

His reasoning made sense and playing so serious from the start is townie.


Even though he unvoted without any new input from me and without providing pretty much any reason at all?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 04 2014 12:09 GMT
#235
On February 04 2014 14:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
##vote koshi


Is Koshi scum?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 04 2014 13:04 GMT
#237
On February 04 2014 22:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
yes koshi is scum


Is there anything else about him that makes you think so besides the policy thing?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 04 2014 15:59 GMT
#259
On February 05 2014 00:49 Balla24 wrote:
Policy discussion isn't shitposting, it forces people to take responsibility for what they say. If they don't follow through, then we can figure out what's up. I said I would easily be able to hit the benchmark, cool, if I dont reach anywhere close to that then WTF? These kind of things are good, not bad. Hopeless did a similar thing to me, saying he's motivated by it, but he bailed.


Policy talk is a way to get the game started. I don't really see how it forces anyone to take responsibility of anything in itself.

To be honest, to me Hopeless1der's "motivated" comment read more like sarcasm than being serious, given the rest of the content he's produced.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 04 2014 16:01 GMT
#260
On February 05 2014 00:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
mannnn Koshi's shitposting is AFTER his first post.


Is there anything else in this game that you think is worth talking about than Koshi's "shitposting"?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 04 2014 16:10 GMT
#263
On February 05 2014 01:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 01:01 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 05 2014 00:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
mannnn Koshi's shitposting is AFTER his first post.


Is there anything else in this game that you think is worth talking about than Koshi's "shitposting"?

how everyone doesnt really want to find scum lol.

I dunno, nothing really stood out. I would really like to discuss cakemanofdoom and hopeless though, what are your thoughts on them?


Hopeless1der has not produced anything that I find directly useful for deducing his alignment. Which, in itself, could become alignment indicative.



cakemanofdoom seems to post pretty freely which makes me lean town on him, but I found this weird:

On February 04 2014 12:20 cakemanofdoom wrote:
I wanna see more posts from LoneMeow. His first post doesn't seem very alignment-indicative to me; just a throwaway comment. Response to the vote is a decent explanation. Aside from that, his only post is about how post quality is more important than number of posts. True, but overall he's made too few posts/contributions for me to read him. That puts him more scummy than not.


Why did he single out me as someone who has not posted much and claim I'm scummy based on that, given that at the time there were many others who would fit the criteria aswell?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 04 2014 16:17 GMT
#266
On February 05 2014 01:16 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 20:17 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 04 2014 20:08 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2014 19:56 LoneMeow wrote:
What do you make of Balla24's vote/unvote on me?

His reasoning made sense and playing so serious from the start is townie.


Even though he unvoted without any new input from me and without providing pretty much any reason at all?


Stuff like this is similar to above.

Though here it kind of seems like LoneMeow was expecting an answer and didn't get it, and he wants to call me scum for it without calling me scum.


Why did you unvote me at that point?

Also, who do you think is scum?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 04 2014 16:43 GMT
#273
On February 05 2014 01:30 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 01:17 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 05 2014 01:16 Balla24 wrote:
On February 04 2014 20:17 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 04 2014 20:08 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2014 19:56 LoneMeow wrote:
What do you make of Balla24's vote/unvote on me?

His reasoning made sense and playing so serious from the start is townie.


Even though he unvoted without any new input from me and without providing pretty much any reason at all?


Stuff like this is similar to above.

Though here it kind of seems like LoneMeow was expecting an answer and didn't get it, and he wants to call me scum for it without calling me scum.


Why did you unvote me at that point?

Also, who do you think is scum?


Are you saying my vote was correct in the first place, seems weird that you're calling me out for unvoting. Anyways, 2 reasons:

1. I believe it's more likely for scum to have agreed with Koshi then to disagree with him straight up like you did.
2. The conversation about my vote had already been hashed out, no reason to keep it there.

Moving my vote isn't that interesting is it? I could still have my vote on you and it wouldn't really change anything.


I was interested why the unvote happened at that moment, many hours after my last post.
Point 2 answers this enough for now.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 04 2014 20:31 GMT
#338
On February 05 2014 04:56 Balla24 wrote:
I think you are misrepresenting a lot of what jonnylaw said there Koshi and oftentimes ignoring the context of his posts. I'll just leave it at that for now cause i brb t_T


Please point out where Koshi is misrepresenting and/or ignoring context.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 04 2014 20:46 GMT
#340
On February 05 2014 04:40 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 12:41 JonnyLaw wrote:
Anyway, I'm not waffling on anything. I'm trying to figure out the game. If you have firm convictions this early you're an idiot or a god.

When people say "I am not waffling" they are waffling. Also, did people think he was waffling? I don't even see where he was waffling. That's what they call inherent guilt. He looks at his own posts and sees the flaws in them, or at least he thinks they are there.

##vote: JonnyLaw


For what it's worth, I suspect he was responding to this:

On February 04 2014 12:24 jaybrundage wrote:
9. JonnyLaw Pretty waffly at the start. He is posting but he doesn't seem to have firm convictions. He didn't liike Balla early but he has played with baller 3-2 times with him being scum so his suspicion is warrented. He hasn't produced much content tho he just seems like going with the flow


Really wish people would quote when they respond so the context would be in their filters.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 05 2014 16:01 GMT
#506
Read a bunch of filters, here's some thoughts:

Hopeless1der

Not much to go by. I don't really see a town purpose in posts like this:
On February 05 2014 13:45 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 13:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
On February 05 2014 13:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
No the entrances are not the same Oats. SMB I was there at daypost. LXIV? Literally first post of the game (and 3-man-confirmed- frivolous I find it alarming that this is your justification for voting me.
How would you open a game as scum??ng is so frivolous I find it alarming that this is your justification for voting me.
How would you open a game as scum?

I don't see how my answer is in any way going to be alignment indicative for this game. No comment. [/QUOTE]
On February 05 2014 13:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 13:53 Alakaslam wrote:
As scum I am 10x more sensible then as town.

Peese out till I wake back up I'm working nights

Oats, analyze this post and tell me what alignment slam is.


Eagerly waiting to see his case on Oatsmaster.

Verdict: leaning scum




Oatsmaster

Early posting, especially the Koshi push, earned him scum points.
Later posts are better, he's now giving reads without being asked and making some sense.

Verdict: uncertain




cakemanofdoom

Posting his opinions freely and making sense.

Verdict: town




Alakaslam

He started off being somewhat incoherent (and very incoherent when his phone was acting up) which is what I've come to expect of him.
Did not like his reaction testing much, but I'd argue it's slightly more likely to come from town Alakaslam.
What worries me is that he's actually being quite active and making some sense in his later posting - I've never seen him like that as town.

Verdict: uncertain, watch closely




Koshi

The fact that he's been defending me makes me suspicious. There should be no need to softly defend other townies when they're not even under imminent threat of being mislynched.

The case he made on JonnyLaw was quite bad. I find it hard to believe he'd pay so little attention to miss things like:
On February 05 2014 04:40 Koshi wrote:
Then there is Jonny and his talk about LM:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 07:54 JonnyLaw wrote:
And what the fuck is that vote? Lonemeow's said the most sensible thing since this game started.

Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 10:20 JonnyLaw wrote:
I agreed with his second post and dismissed the other one. That first one is an excuse for lurking. I dunno if that's scummy or not. Let's see how LM proceeds from here. Maybe I have a soft spot from him hosting one of our newbie games.

Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 11:14 JonnyLaw wrote:
LM hasn't given us quality or quantity yet. He says one thing then does another. It's early in the game for me to demand more quality of his posting. At least as far as considering lynching him.

Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 11:48 JonnyLaw wrote:
At this point LM's first post was shit but says nothing about his alignment until other actions take place in the game.

Koshi on the other hand created two pages of shit posting. This allowed LM and other LM like people to pop in, say nothing and fuck off out of here acting as though they participated in the game.

Just look at the progression:
"How do you dare to vote LM, he said the most sensible thing in this thread"
"LM his second post was really good, I didn't consider the other ones"
"LM can be lynched"
"LM posted like shit early game, but it really was Koshi his fault"
It literally goes from this guy posted incredible pro town towards everything this guy posted was shit. And there is a post right after Jonny said "I can lynch LM" where Jonny give his scummy list and I am on top of the scummy list and not LM.


In none of the quotes does JonnyLaw say "I can lynch LM". Almost like Koshi didn't even really read what he quoted.

Verdict: leaning scum
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 05 2014 16:02 GMT
#507
On February 06 2014 00:59 Hopeless1der wrote:
Is anyone interested in chatting with me about cakemanofdoom?


I assume this means you think he's not town? Why?
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 05 2014 16:05 GMT
#509
jaybrundage, when you're around please explain why you decided to make your case on me instead of say Hopeless1der whose posting up to that point wasn't really any better?
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