• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:30
CEST 01:30
KST 08:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror4[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)73Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double2Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3BSL Season 2317
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Back to SC2 after 14 years - Protoss CTRL groups? October World Ranking: herO stays #1, ByuN returns
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Grand Finals Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) SC2 INu's Battles#21 [ 3-Days tournament ]
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 546 Catch the Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble
Brood War
General
Sagi.gg Launcher Released Fantasy returning? BSL Season 23 20-year-old Valorant player starting StarCraft Bot on ladder
Tourneys
[ASL22] Semifinal A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 4 2v2v2v2 Tournament
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Escaping Into Video Games: G…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8622 users

Riot S4 LCS contract discussion

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 13 14 15 Next All
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-06 05:18:37
December 04 2013 19:46 GMT
#1
http://www.ongamers.com/articles/riot-season-4-lcs-contracts-stipulate-players-cannot-stream-dota-2-blizzard-games/1100-261/

Uh... Seriously? Wtf? That's a bit extreme..

Update: http://www.ongamers.com/articles/riot-season-4-lcs-contracts-stipulate-players-cannot-stream-dota-2-blizzard-games/1100-261/

Update, 2:45PM PST: Director of Esports at Riot Games Whalen 'RiotMagus' Rozelle confirmed in a Reddit thread that the streaming and advertisement restrictions we reported on are, in fact, in place. His comment can be found below:

We say this all the time: we want League of Legends to be a legitimate sport. There are some cool things that come from that (salaried professional athletes, legitimate revenue streams, visas, Staples Center), but there’s also a lot of structural work that needs to be done to ensure a true professional setting.

We recognize there may be some differences of opinion in the perception of pro players’ streams. In the past, pro gamers only had to worry about their personal brands when streaming and, at most, may have had to worry about not using the wrong brand of keyboard to keep their sponsor happy. Now, however, these guys are professionals contracted to a professional sports league. When they’re streaming to 50,000 fans, they’re also representing the sport itself.

I can’t stress enough how these guys in the LCS are on the road to being real, legitimate athletes. This is new territory for a lot of teams (especially in esports), because the transition goes from being a group of talented individuals to being real icons of a sport and a league. Similarly, you probably wouldn’t see an NFL player promoting Arena Football or a Nike-sponsored player wearing Reebok on camera. Pro players are free to play whatever games they want – we’re simply asking them to keep in mind that, on-stream, they’re the face of competitive League of Legends.
Whalen Rozelle

Update, 11:20AM PST: onGamers has confirmed with the team representatives that LCS players are disallowed from streaming the games listed below outright, not just when adjacent to a League of Legends stream. Under Section 3 Rule 4 of the new contract handling 'Non-League Events and Streaming', it states that "... the [LCS] Team shall ensure that, during the Term of this Agreement, its Team Members do not publicly stream gameplay of the titles set forth on Exhibit B". Exhibit B states "the specific restrictions on streaming are set forth in the Sponsorship and Streaming Restricted List, as updated by the League from time to time", which is the document listed below.
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
December 04 2013 19:47 GMT
#2
This just about sums up the problem I, and a lot of non-LoL players have with Riot.

Op needs some work though.
On the internet if you disagree with or dislike something you're angry and taking it too seriously. == Join TLMafia !
CrazyF1r3f0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2120 Posts
December 04 2013 19:52 GMT
#3
You should quote the article in your post, like this:
Update, 11:20AM PST: onGamers has confirmed with the team representatives that LCS players are disallowed from streaming the games listed below outright, not just when adjacent to a League of Legends stream. Under Section 3 Rule 4 of the new contract handling 'Non-League Events and Streaming', it states that "... the [LCS] Team shall ensure that, during the Term of this Agreement, its Team Members do not publicly stream gameplay of the titles set forth on Exhibit B". Exhibit B states "the specific restrictions on streaming are set forth in the Sponsorship and Streaming Restricted List, as updated by the League from time to time", which is the document listed below.

Original Story: With less than three weeks until Riot's Battle of the Atlantic tournament, teams and players are being finalized for Season 4 of Riot's League of Legends Championship Series (LCS). With the new season on the horizon, contracts have been sent out to owners of current LCS teams.

onGamers has obtained a section of the 2014 League of Legends Championship Series contracts sent to team owners. In the section we were provided, new regulations are stipulated for what games players can and and cannot stream. The "Sponsorship and Streaming Restricted List" states that 'the following companies and/or products are not to be advertised during or adjacent to League of Legends," during the term of the agreement (duration of the contract). onGamers has confirmed with several team representatives that the document provided is real.

The most notable games among the restricted list are Dota 2, Hearthstone, World of WarCraft, StarCraft, and the World of Tanks/World of Planes franchises. Gambling and poker websites, including those that do esports betting, are also off limits. Drugs, guns, pornography and tobacco products round out the list of restrictions. The full list can be found from the screenshot of the contract below.
[image loading]

"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the overcompensations for misery."
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
December 04 2013 19:58 GMT
#4
just shows that they are afraid of SMITE
TL+ Member
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-04 20:00:39
December 04 2013 19:59 GMT
#5
On December 05 2013 04:52 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
You should quote the article in your post, like this:

Why would I quote it? I generally don't quote articles. It's just one click away..

On December 05 2013 04:58 Paljas wrote:
just shows that they are afraid of SMITE

Why would they be afraid? My friend told me about SMITE like 2 years ago and still not a lot of people play or stream it.. He says SMITE is doing pretty well though and is much more friendly to play than LoL, especially with the last hit.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 04 2013 20:02 GMT
#6
On December 05 2013 04:59 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 04:52 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
You should quote the article in your post, like this:

Why would I quote it? I generally don't quote articles. It's just one click away..

Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 04:58 Paljas wrote:
just shows that they are afraid of SMITE

Why would they be afraid? My friend told me about SMITE like 2 years ago and still not a lot of people play or stream it.. He says SMITE is doing pretty well though and is much more friendly to play than LoL, especially with the last hit.


SMITE is quite fun and it is still in beta as of now. They have announced a March release date and a $100k tournament, as well as backing from Tencent.

I find it interesting they are banning tobacco use on stream, but not alcohol.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
December 04 2013 20:02 GMT
#7
This is pretty much why I don't play LoL. The game is fine, I hate Riot with a passion.

This shows how big of an ego Riot has now to attempt to boss their competition around. All of there past about kicking out DotA 2 from venues seems pretty legit now. There is no way Riot can explain this away if it is in their contract.

What a joke, I hope DotA 2 outgrows LoL in the future to put Riot in there place.
Natus Vincere Fan | Team Secret Fan | SK Telecom T1 Fan | Lanaya the Templar Assassin <3
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
December 04 2013 20:04 GMT
#8
On December 05 2013 04:59 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 04:52 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
You should quote the article in your post, like this:

Why would I quote it? I generally don't quote articles. It's just one click away..

Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 04:58 Paljas wrote:
just shows that they are afraid of SMITE

Why would they be afraid? My friend told me about SMITE like 2 years ago and still not a lot of people play or stream it.. He says SMITE is doing pretty well though and is much more friendly to play than LoL, especially with the last hit.

i tried to make a joke. i remember that smite was pretty fucking bad, so my post would have been funnier.
but apparently, it became better
TL+ Member
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
December 04 2013 20:53 GMT
#9
this was a year ago

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=366477
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-04 21:02:47
December 04 2013 21:02 GMT
#10
On December 05 2013 05:53 emucxg wrote:
this was a year ago

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=366477

Still no evidence for that. Nothing but hearsay, lots of hearsay.

This is annoying though. Actual proofz
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
December 04 2013 21:08 GMT
#11
I think I find myself in the minority... but I don't care. The primary reason is that they're being paid by Riot. If they were just normal tournaments then I'd think some clause that states you can't stream any of those games or you'll be barred from the tournament would be nutso and ridiculous. As it is, Riot is paying these guys a salary and obviously advertising for rival games isn't in their best interest.

I don't like it; but it's not a big deal as it stands and I understand their reasoning.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-04 21:17:31
December 04 2013 21:11 GMT
#12
Oh I understand the reasoning, I just don't like it.

I'm fine with alot of things (not the dota2 disbarring for teams, but that was just needless fearmongering since pretty much all the other "sources" outside the initial Scoots rumoring turned out to just be echoing the reddit pitchforkings) but this is kind of petty.

Or maybe they want pros to start streaming LoL TCG when it comes out over hearthstone, who knows
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 04 2013 21:14 GMT
#13
On December 05 2013 04:47 Zealos wrote:
This just about sums up the problem I, and a lot of non-LoL players have with Riot.

Op needs some work though.

Why should you as a non-LoL player (and presumably non-LoL stream watcher) care which content LoL streamers stream?
Off-season = best season
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 04 2013 21:18 GMT
#14
On December 05 2013 04:58 Paljas wrote:
just shows that they are afraid of SMITE

No it shows that they are afraid of Land of Chaos online.
Off-season = best season
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 04 2013 21:21 GMT
#15
On December 05 2013 06:14 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 04:47 Zealos wrote:
This just about sums up the problem I, and a lot of non-LoL players have with Riot.

Op needs some work though.

Why should you as a non-LoL player (and presumably non-LoL stream watcher) care which content LoL streamers stream?


Well there are guys who care about other esports and this move from riot shows again that they aren't happy til every other competitor fails. I mean i can understand why they do this, it makes sense business wise, but it feels so wrong.
I hope some players will voice their opinion about it, but i fear nobody will risk the LCS spot for something like that.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 04 2013 21:27 GMT
#16
On December 05 2013 06:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 06:14 Redox wrote:
On December 05 2013 04:47 Zealos wrote:
This just about sums up the problem I, and a lot of non-LoL players have with Riot.

Op needs some work though.

Why should you as a non-LoL player (and presumably non-LoL stream watcher) care which content LoL streamers stream?


Well there are guys who care about other esports and this move from riot shows again that they aren't happy til every other competitor fails. I mean i can understand why they do this, it makes sense business wise, but it feels so wrong.
I hope some players will voice their opinion about it, but i fear nobody will risk the LCS spot for something like that.

Imo it feels normal. If you sign with Nike, you dont wear anything from Adidas. If you are a celeb advertising for Coke, you are not supposed to be seen drinking Pepsi in public. If you are sponsored by Razor, you dont use Steelseries gear in public. It is simple professionalism.

Off-season = best season
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
December 04 2013 21:28 GMT
#17
On December 05 2013 06:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 06:14 Redox wrote:
On December 05 2013 04:47 Zealos wrote:
This just about sums up the problem I, and a lot of non-LoL players have with Riot.

Op needs some work though.

Why should you as a non-LoL player (and presumably non-LoL stream watcher) care which content LoL streamers stream?


Well there are guys who care about other esports and this move from riot shows again that they aren't happy til every other competitor fails. I mean i can understand why they do this, it makes sense business wise, but it feels so wrong.
I hope some players will voice their opinion about it, but i fear nobody will risk the LCS spot for something like that.


This is just a byproduct of protecting your own success. Businesses who don't protect themselves are doomed to fail.
FlyingToilet
Profile Joined August 2011
United States840 Posts
December 04 2013 21:29 GMT
#18
I always have a friend who defends riot for stuff like this, if i bring up the controversy with pendragon, its all just company mentality, i mean who cares about killing esports when your making money? It's still inexcusable and i hope the community slams riot for this.
http://justin.tv/flyingtoilet
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
December 04 2013 21:33 GMT
#19




What i get from this is that even though it's in the contract, Riot doesn't enforce it? Only on MOBAs?
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 04 2013 21:37 GMT
#20
On December 05 2013 06:29 FlyingToilet wrote:
I always have a friend who defends riot for stuff like this, if i bring up the controversy with pendragon, its all just company mentality, i mean who cares about killing esports when your making money? It's still inexcusable and i hope the community slams riot for this.

E-sports as a whole profits a lot from LoL's success, no matter if Riot wants it or not.
Off-season = best season
1 2 3 4 5 13 14 15 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
08:00
QMC Community Tournament 1
CranKy Ducklings33
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nathanias 151
SpeCial 72
CosmosSc2 40
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 656
910 60
Bale 15
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm96
League of Legends
Doublelift2833
Other Games
summit1g8766
shahzam724
C9.Mang0308
PiGStarcraft198
JimRising 192
Maynarde114
Vindicta9
Liquid`Ken7
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick608
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream36
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 108
• musti20045 38
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP30
• davetesta14
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21516
Other Games
• imaqtpie701
• Shiphtur177
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
10h 30m
Soma vs Soulkey
INu's Battles
11h 30m
SHIN vs Cure
ByuN vs Zoun
PiGosaur Cup
1d
Patches Events
1d 16h
The PondCast
2 days
INu's Battles
2 days
Percival vs TBD
TBD vs herO
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
OSC
3 days
BSL: Ladder Tournament
4 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Patches Events
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSB
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
HCC Season 3
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.