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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 25 2013 03:08 GMT
#19
/in.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 04 2013 00:05 GMT
#48
?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 04 2013 20:42 GMT
#57
I hope I'm the crab.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 07 2013 22:25 GMT
#86
Anyone else care to speculate over which smurf is Blazinghand?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 08 2013 02:00 GMT
#99
Hmmm. that is an interesting idea. Maybe I will drop out and learn the ways of Chupazi.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 08 2013 02:18 GMT
#101
I am open to being shadowed if there is anyone shitty enough at this game to want to shadow me.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 08 2013 21:15 GMT
#105
I won't be very active day1 if it starts Monday. Also I won't be trolling this game. The risk is too high!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 09 2013 00:40 GMT
#108
Shit. I better go find a scapegoat. Obviously I'm going to need somebody being even more useless than myself.

##Vote: Kushm4sta

I promise he is scum.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 09 2013 00:43 GMT
#109
On December 08 2013 04:07 kushm4sta wrote:
BTW it is my policy to skip any post written in meter like above.

Kushm4sta is scum

He hasn't even read half the posts in thread...
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 09 2013 00:44 GMT
#110
Xatalos why aren't you voting Kushm4sta?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 10 2013 05:48 GMT
#417
On December 10 2013 07:06 Corazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 07:01 Xatalos wrote:
On December 10 2013 06:53 Corazon wrote:
Lol can I go one game without being the first one voted.

Do you guys really think I'm more scummy at this point than Spag and Slam? I'm being open and honest with all of you. I'm not hiding anything. I've always tried to be genuine and not put up façades or wear masks. I'm telling you that I was going to be busy and I told you how I felt coming into this game. If you guys want to call me scum for that, go ahead. But just know that it is really silly to call me scum when Slam and Spag made one post and peaced out. Spag had to be coerced back into the thread and Slam still hasn't come back.

Plutarch wasn't trying to prod me for discussion; he was trying to twist my words and call me scum. Holyflare is just piggybacking off of everyone else's arguments to take town credit.

If you guys would look into the game, you would see that I am far from the scummiest player here. Also, it is good to know that you are all down for pressure voting so now I don't have to take your votes seriously until very close to the deadline. Sweet.


Spagetticus and Alakaslam certainly didn't start in a townish way. But I have to ask which is worse: weak non-contribution (them) or passable non-contribution (you)?


"passable non-contribution" doesn't exist. Your logic is flawed.

My first post was contribution. You can call me out on it later if I contradict myself. You can't call Slam and Spag out on anything that they wrote in their first posts.

passable non-contribution is scummier. That is a really terrible criteria for a contribution lol. Slam's Chupazi style has been called out numerous times so he must be one of the towns most contributive members.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 10 2013 05:58 GMT
#419
On December 10 2013 07:20 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 07:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:10 Xatalos wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:04 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't like Xatalos right now and I'm curious if anyone sees what I see before I say why.

Gladly oblige.

Quick to hop on someone really really unreasonably early and with not the greatest logic in the world?

My behavior right off is worse but he votes cora

I am so bad I am useful to scum in the lategame, so he would rather mislynch cora who though not perfect, is definitely better at being town than me.

Probably not exactly your point but I think you are also seeing the quick to lynch attitude. And the slightly unreasonable aggressiveness.

I'm seeing a scattershot that's flinging poo everywhere and found someone to whom it will stick. I don't feel like he's trying to discern anyone's alignment, but rather start chaos and find a nice lynch target.
##Vote Xatalos


Well, that's one way to look at it. The other is that I'm always relatively aggressive as town.

You are? Where?

Is meta defense weak?

Give us the other sailing voyages you have made, surely you have ticket stubs?


My latest town game is here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423047&user=Xatalos&currentpage=3 I'm maybe slightly more passive there, but you can't see the aggression I put forth in the PM land during the beginning. Grackaroni can enlighten you perhaps.

Xatalos was really try hard and aggressive in mason chat. It was night one with only four of us allowed to talk and all we had to do was elect somebody. It wasn't going to be me so I didnt put much effort into my posts. He started attacking me with the logic that he had strong town reads on the other 2 players in my house because they were active so I am scum.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 10 2013 06:17 GMT
#422
On December 10 2013 07:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 07:36 LSB wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:21 LSB wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 10 2013 07:17 LSB wrote:
I think we need to calm down. My "townie on townie day 1 shitstorm" sense is tingling.

That speaking, oddly enough it does encourage a Xatalos lynch

Whom do you feel are townies from this and why? It hasn't really been one on one. It's been HF and Xatalos against Cora, and myself, Alakaslam and you against Xatalos. If you feel it's townie on townie, then you'd think Xatalos was town.

So far I think I am townie, I haven't really thought past that. I just don't think this day 1 attitude is gonna be very productive.

The whole entire Xatalos suspicion does require a meta read on Xatalos to see if he is brilliant enough to try for the plan on day 1, or does he just play like this.

I just skimmed through the filter he linked and I don't think it looks like the start of this game at all. He's far more aggressive here. What were you trying to say exactly with your initial post if you didn't mean to give anyone a town read but yourself? I'm confused. I don't think a plan other than "starting shit" is required for scum. That's always a good thing.

In my opinion natural scum play is to stay low, especially on day 1, the town tends to self destruct anyways day 1. This whole entire "starting shit" strat is actually pretty good, even though it is counterintuitive to the idea of trying to not draw attention. Thus I assumed this strat is not very obvious, especially since I personally never considered it.

This is all pure speculation. Something more grounded is that Xatalos is definably acting very different from before, and in my eyes less of a townie

I don't feel like Xatalos put himself in the spotlight as much as trying to put others in the spotlight. Corazon put himself in the spotlight without any scum gain. When you look at his post from a scum point of view, it doesn't make sense for them to make it. I can see a scum agenda behind Xatalos' posts. That said, I do like his view on my pressure on him in that it was nuanced rather than trying to score town points. The rest of the day should provide more information.
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 07:36 Holyflare wrote:
Nobody going to discuss cora's mindset or are you going to dismiss it outright for xantos discussion some more?

On December 10 2013 06:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Holy, I don't feel like his response is that different. I also don't think he'd put himself out there so much at the start of the game. No reason to draw attention to yourself like that as scum.


Given you quoted me I take it you'd like a response from me? I don't find Corazon scummy at this point in time because he drew attention to himself without any scum benefit.

The amount of aggression on Cora for that post was completely unwarranted but that definitely isn't worthy of a town read. Corazon didn't put do anything to put himself out there. He was probably busy so he said in his post that he was going to be busy, which means nothing.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 10 2013 07:29 GMT
#448
Where you at right now Vayne? What do you think about the game.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 10 2013 07:30 GMT
#449
Sidesprang is pretty scummy. Long posts with no content.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 10 2013 07:34 GMT
#456
On December 10 2013 16:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
I will say though that playing as scum last game you probably realize that Slam basically adds another scum to the game as either alignment. So I'm fine with lynching him regardless unless something very convincing goes down.

haha I will agree with that. You can already see him planning for his late game martyr in his posts this game.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 10 2013 10:31 GMT
#537
On December 10 2013 19:27 Spaghetticus wrote:
PANDAIN

Get in here.

Can I play Pandain?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 10 2013 12:09 GMT
#601
I have come to the conclusion that Plutarch is WBG.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 10 2013 12:12 GMT
#607
On December 10 2013 12:39 Plutarch wrote:
I am not convinced by this push on Xatalos. In my experience he is more likely to take a back seat as scum than to jump around driving discussion.

He also said this
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
December 10 2013 12:18 GMT
#614
On December 10 2013 21:14 Plutarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 21:12 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 10 2013 12:39 Plutarch wrote:
I am not convinced by this push on Xatalos. In my experience he is more likely to take a back seat as scum than to jump around driving discussion.

He also said this


Pretty sure that is what everyone has been talking about.

Yeah that was to HF. Who would say that after obsing Dessert Mini. Way more likely you were a player and lied then that you obsed a game from over a year ago and feel you have a good grasp of Xatalos' scum play.
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