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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 02 2013 16:52 GMT
#37
/in
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 03 2013 05:06 GMT
#64
On November 03 2013 10:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 10:44 Umasi wrote:
On November 03 2013 10:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm thinking I'm going to enjoy this game. Player list includes a bunch of people I've never had the pleasure of playing with yet, some I play with all of the time, and some I haven't played with in a while and am happy to be playing with again.

Looking forward to this one, guys. ^o^

appeal to emotion, obviously scum, lynch this guy

Fuck that, there's only one person in this game who has the ability to lynch me.
The question is, will he use his powers for good or for evil?
ONLY TIME MAY TELL



Yeah Im waiting for the day 1 rayn tunnel :-)
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 03 2013 20:58 GMT
#86
And 3:56am now I am in pain and cannot sleep but I will amost never be around for this deadline.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 04 2013 04:57 GMT
#181
On November 04 2013 13:10 hzflank wrote:
WoS has only played scum once? Then wth was he doing coaching me in my first scum game. I even said before it started that having WoS as a coach was a handicap, and still they let this uni-scummer coach us.

I think what Thrawn was getting at was this line:

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On November 04 2013 10:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Vanesco's post looks like typical 'scum trying to jump on the first odd thing somebody does for early game contributions n' shizz.


You are aware that scum sometimes jump on to something. The thing that you don't mention is that scum tend to do this if they think at least one town will also jump on it, as that allows them to place/leave their vote on the target for a longer period of time. I could certainly argue that Vanesco did this with his first post, but then one may also argue that you did the same.

Basically, that sentence was a little bit hypocritical.

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On November 04 2013 12:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
As for 'who we are firm with,' care to elaborate? I asked you a question and you just gave me a very generic answer, without the specifics I was asking for.


Well, sometimes a man....actually we are not having that conversation.

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On November 04 2013 12:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
hzflank do you think that is alignment indicative of anyone involved in the cycle of firmness?


Yes. If you enter a game with a really direct post where you call someone scum, it is probably for one of two reasons. Either you think it's time that the game got rolling and you want to change the style of conversation that is taking place, or you want your first post to make you look like you are town.

Umasi wanted to look like he was town, because if he were trying to direct the conversation to be more about post analysis and scum hunting then he would not of added this last sentence to his post.

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On November 04 2013 10:30 Umasi wrote:
Also, I support claiming votes and actions after they occur, so once it's back to the blues being VTs and unviggable, can't really think of a downside.


Ofcourse, it is fair to point out that trying to look like town does not always make a person scum. But trying to look like town in your very first post makes someone (Umasi) look like uncomfortable scum.



1. I hope this is a joke. Iirc that game you were shot by SK trying to hit town. So he must have been doing something right. And even if it is a joke its a bad one.

2. Or town see something they dont like and push it. Its not scummy to open up with calling someone sketchy.

3. No need for this at all.

4. Or he is town and saw something he didnt like and wanted to point it out for discussion. I dont see a newer scum player comeing in the game and pushing mislynch this early.

5. Not really makes him null, if not slightly townie. I dont see a newer scum player running that type of play.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 04 2013 05:01 GMT
#183
On November 04 2013 13:36 hzflank wrote:
This should be in a pm, but I cannot pm you right now so before I get back to the game...

I was a jerk to you before that game started. That was intend as a joke, I did not mean any offense. I am genuinly very grateful for your assistance during that game.

Okay that said, back to being a jerk and playing this game.



Oh ok I got it. Policy lynch you straight up.

##VOTE HZFLANK

No place for this, I basicly dont want to play with a child just fucking around.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 04 2013 05:05 GMT
#186
On November 04 2013 14:03 hzflank wrote:
Ofcourse it was a joke: I used the word 'uni-scummer'. I realize that people may not read my posts in the same tone that I write them, but If I am making up a silly word then I am not being serious.



Ok then your just being a ass, gotcha
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 04 2013 05:13 GMT
#187
Look normally Im really chill, but this is just bothering me. It doesnt bother me when people call each other fucking idiots or play like shit or anything like that as that normally comes from emotions in the game. But when you basicly come in bash someone for no reason, then say back to being a jerk, just makes me not want to play with you...
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 04 2013 05:26 GMT
#189
I dont know, maybe I havent taken enough pain meds and I feel like shit now, but I think his posts are over the top and unfounded, they are just random with little or no justification. Im going to take some more medicine clear my head and be back later to actually play.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 04 2013 05:54 GMT
#194
On November 04 2013 14:44 EchelonTee wrote:
Cool it Onegu. He said that he didn't mean offense and was greatful towards WoS. His "back to being a jerk" thing is obviously light-hearted. Your policy lynch is not a good idea.


Ill listen to WoS. If he thinks Im off base Ill respect that, as I respect WoS quite a bit and this was directed at him and I found offense to it.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 04 2013 05:55 GMT
#196
On November 04 2013 14:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
Onegu calm down, I obviously misinterpreted him in our exchanges and for that I apologize as well.
Back to the game:
##Unvote
I REALLY fucking hope this doesn't bite me in the ass but Vanesco is now exhibiting a little more of what I was waiting for.
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On November 04 2013 13:44 Vanesco wrote:
I don't get where this idea of my calling out Syl for not being firm is coming from. I just didn't like what he had to say and I decided that instead of people joking around I wanted to actually start the game, so I called him out. I didn't really take much of a stance because nothing in his response made me feel like he was scummy.

I'm having a really big scum read on Umasi currently. As explained before, in his first post I think only consists of 1 real accusation which is that I do not like talking about strategy since scum can meta it. To me it seems that he wants town to discuss strategy which leads me to the two most likely conclusions.
1) He doesn't know what to do, usually means a weak town and can be tricked easily by scum, or
2) mafia that wants to know the towns plans and how to use it against them
His only other post is him making a joke at somebody who thinks he's scum and then saying that I didn't pressure Syl hard (which I explain in the paragraph above). He then talks about how I don't like to talk about strategy which I explain why above. He mistakenly calls strategy "mechanics" when they are completely different things (in my opinion). I view mechanics as the rules of the game where strategy is how to play the game. I don't know if this is just me but it seems like he wants to blame that I'm not allowing people to discuss the rules of the game when infact I just don't like when people discuss the strategy they are going to use.

Essentially Vanesco, whether or not he has played on other forums or whatever boils down to either noob scum or noob town. An experienced player would not need attempt to earnestly call people out simply to 'get the game going' without dropping a vote or taking a hard stance, whether pressure-vote or not.
I redact my earlier scumread on him and (hopefully this doesn't bite me in the ass) he is now noob town.
The OMGUS on Umasi, (OMGUS in my experience tends to be used by town way more often than scum) the blatant disregard for what a towny is 'supposed to do' (why call someone out for no reason whatsoever---only serves to draw attention to himself which he has certainly garnered). I would think a newbie scum would at the very least attempt to backtrack due to inherent guilt when being shown that what he has done is considered scummy here.

Townread for now, but Vanesco I want to see something positive from you real soon. Scumread on Umasi notwithstanding.



Ok

##UNVOTE

Ill be back in a bit.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 04 2013 06:37 GMT
#201
On November 04 2013 15:06 Vanesco wrote:
So it seems that from all this negative feedback on me not voting that after thinking somebody is very scummy a vote is typical action. From my POV it seemed better not to vote because I don't like lurkers to just get a free ride by latching on, but after seeing the responses I have to agree with most of them and it was a bad play by me. Therefore:
##Vote: Umasi



I think I would have liked you better if you didnt vote and stuck to you guns, this seems like "oh crap I better vote him because people are calling me out".
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 04 2013 06:45 GMT
#202
On November 04 2013 14:54 hzflank wrote:
Look, I did not bash anyone. Maybe you did not interpret what I wrote the way in which I intended it to be interpreted. When I said back to being a jerk it was because I was intending to keep up a certain tone in my in game posts for most of day one, and I have sound strategic reasons for doing so.

I am here to play a game. At no time, ever, during the game have I or will I ever intend to personally insult anybody. It might happen on occasion due to the medium (text), and if it does then I will apologise.

There are also some cultural differences in the way British people phrase things compared to Americans, and ofcourse British slang can be different. Not to mention that British humour is very different to American humour.

I'm useless at the moment, so will be back to the game later.



Ok sorry mabye im just in a shitty mood from lack of sleep and pain.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 04 2013 07:19 GMT
#207
On November 04 2013 11:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Looking the playerlist you are the guy i can work with the best.
I can't read OO for shit.
I hope Cephiro does not do dumb stuff like he did in Hogwarts.
Lurk Sylencia = lynch, otherwise idk
Sn0dude played really well in Hogwarts, i except that from him here aswell.
gumshoe ....
thrawn i misread on Desert until he actually started making sense, hope he does that too here
Umasi was good in some game as town i think? Says nothing = lynch
Onegu is tricky, damn he was tricky in Hogwarts. A guy to read closely.
ET is town or scum at last N1, based purely on Hogwarts.
hzflank i can read.
Vanesco noob, no idea. contribute or die.

and yeah, that's it.



+ Show Spoiler +


And I guess I am WoS opposite as not including this game I have rolled scum 6/11 times.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 04 2013 07:43 GMT
#209
On November 04 2013 16:21 Vanesco wrote:
When did I ever say that? Please show me exactly where I say that. And if I don't then why are you trying to make stuff up? This entire time from the start when Umasi voted on me I have been a large center of discussion and it's getting pretty irritating where even when I try to give my reads everybody just starts harping on me anyways for doing something that they don't like or aren't accustomed to. Just cause you think one way is the only way to play doesn't mean it actually is.



Ok I had zero problem with you not voteing, and looked at the people who were calling you out for it worse, but your response to them calling you out looked bad.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 04 2013 12:10 GMT
#218
On November 04 2013 20:59 Sylencia wrote:
My guess is that OO misread Vanesco as Vayne(sco)


Makes sense.

I also agree with everything you said in your big post, touching on alot of it already.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 04 2013 13:48 GMT
#219
On November 04 2013 12:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think the votes on Van are kinda shit.



What about now?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 04 2013 14:04 GMT
#222
On November 04 2013 12:33 hzflank wrote:
Umasi's first post was too how-to-look-town-101 for a first post with no follow-up.

“I will be firm and call someone scum because that is a town thing to do. That guy was not being firm, so he is the guy that I will call scum. Raaaar, I'm so townly!”

Umasi is my biggest scum read right now. Nothing to ask him really as I expect he will make a response to Van's response anyway, which is what I want to see.



I keep comeing back to this post, and I really dont like it, Umasi's post wasnt the greatest but he did point something out that needed to be pointed out. Seems really out of place for hzflank to call him out for it.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 04 2013 14:17 GMT
#224
On November 04 2013 23:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
I personally plan on being VERY careful about hzflank. He is a strong player and not to be underestimated.

Onegu I have already discussed this matter with hzflank; do you have anything to add besides his post being 'out of place?'



Ill be more clear I think it is slightly scummy for calling out umasi for that post. To me it looks like umasi was pointing out something that should have been pointed out to thread, and wasnt a how to look town post.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 04 2013 14:20 GMT
#225
Oh and Im over the policy lynch thing, Im kinda a ass when Im in pain more than normal, so I am sorry for that. I dont like his post because he is forceing a scum read on something.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 04 2013 14:22 GMT
#226
@ET I have now said sorry twice :p
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