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I've lightly skimmed through posts so far, and I take it that Koshi is winning votes because of RNG? Filtering through his posts, it's pretty clear that he's aggravated by this decision by town. I'm gonna put myself in his shoes for a sec. If I was town, and everyone was gonna RNG lynch me, then I would just be like wtf... I definitely wouldn't be angry since it's not due to my own lack of skill or other people's misreads, but sheer luck instead. Once I flip town, then the townies will just feel really stupid for doing it and I'd be okay with that. Now what if I was in Koshi's shoes and I was mafia? I would probably be a bit aggravated to push town off me, and if I flip red, then people will probably celebrate at my expense. But the thing is that I am not Koshi, so I don't share his feelings or thought process, so this read might be off. To people that have played with Koshi before, would you expect this kind of behavior from town or mafia Koshi? I definitely think that by his behavior, he is more likely mafia. Another thing that's consistent with Koshi being mafia is that there are others trying to save him. If Koshi were town, then it could be possible that there is no effort to save him, light effort to save him, or heavy effort to save him. Anything is possible. If Koshi were mafia, I would bet that his mafia buddies wouldn't give up on him so easily, especially on D1. Since the RNG thing is so stupid, then his mafia buddies could easily make a case for it and not seem scummy in the process. So if Koshi were mafia, I would bet that there is some heavy effort to save him. Right now, we do see some heavy effort, in the form of the yamato train. Although this could happen if Koshi was either town or mafia, I suspect it is more likely if he were mafia. Because of these reasons, I think there's a good chance that Koshi is actually scum, and we got really lucky with the RNG. Just for now ##Vote: Koshi I will be up for a bit more reading through posts. I would like to think about it a bit more before leaving for the night with a read that came from RNG. | ||
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On September 29 2013 04:44 WaveofShadow wrote: And why do you think that was, CR? Let's talk, good buddy. Did you get that coaching you needed since Noire? Haven't gotten coaching from Noire yet. Was gonna ask Yamato since we had the most interaction, but since we're in the same game right now, that would be inappropriate, so Ima ask him after this game is over. Would you be able to explain to me the whole RNG thing on Koshi, and the Yamato train? Was the RNG thing a setup to get a good scumread on people? | ||
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On September 29 2013 06:21 Koshi wrote: I would make a doc and vig list but meh. Does any1 know if we get noticed if shot with vest. Or can some1 ask host. Thx. 11 Civilians - all Civilians have a single one-use bulletproof vest which will protect them from 1 KP that night. If they are shot at and survive, they will be notified. | ||
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So I'm reading through the roles and stuff. I have a couple regarding the molotov cocktail. Does it frame someone or protect someone from actions? | ||
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As for killing BH, from reading the thread, I think BH was killed by someone who had some sort of relation to him. Most of BH's posts were about the whole RNG thing. If I was scum, I wouldn't shoot BH in hopes that he wastes more time on d2. This leads me to believe that the scum team that shot BH wasn't just 3 lurkers, and at least one of them had to have some strong interaction with BH. So I think there are three possible motives: 1. BH was shot because he was strongly pushing against FT and this kill was to protect FT. This kill also really puts the spotlight on FT, but at the same time that's also a reason scum could use to make FT seem innocent. In the end, it becomes an endless chain or circular logic that we can't really look into. The simplest solution is that this kill really benefited FT, and I think FT looks scummy because of it. 2. BH was shot so that a discussion can be made around FT, which creates a diversion from someone else who already looks kinda scummy. If this were true, it would also be consistent with my read that the scum team isn't 3 lurkers with no relation to BH. I would need to read more into the thread to see who could be scum in this case. 3. Near the end, BH was giving a strong townread on palmer. Palmer was active at this point. BH might have been killed so to give his townread on palmer more credibility. This gives Palmer an incentive to kill BH if he was scum. However, looking through his filter, I actually think Palmer is quite town, so I dunno here. One other thing I am willing to gamble on is that Palmer and FirmTofu cannot be in the same scum team. Killing BH would draw way too much unnecessary attention on them, and also it would be really weird for them to kill BH when he's giving a scumread on one of them and a townread on the other. I don't think they would kill BH even to be meta. Right now I'm going to be looking more into FT. However, I don't want to vote him this early on simply because he's the easiest target, and if he flips town, it will not put us in a good position. | ||
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On September 30 2013 07:44 VayneAuthority wrote: chairman ray at least read the OP please. BH was not shot by the police, it is actually impossible. What about lethal force? | ||
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On September 30 2013 07:48 VayneAuthority wrote: and who in the thread currently would use lethal force on a person that can be very useful as town when you can just precision shot him? Yeah, that's why I said I don't think police would have used it. I probably shouldn't have even bothered mentioning it since it was so obvious. | ||
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On September 30 2013 07:52 Pandain wrote: All the above is irrelevant anyway. Doesn't matter or indicate alignment if they know set-up or not. Ray why did you switch from Koshi to Yam when you thought Koshi was "a likely scum read". Are you all caught up with the thread? I am pretty caught up with the thread. The reason I switched from Koshi to Yamato was because at the time, Koshi was leading by a large margin. I swapped my vote so make the votes a lot closer. This would give others the opportunity to swap or people who voted a useless vote to all make a difference. I feel that later on if we figure out that Koshi is scum, then I will focus on looking at the people who swapped after me, and try to get reads on them. | ||
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On September 30 2013 08:03 Grackaroni wrote: lol ok but how did you think that would effect our reads on you? Yeah, I suppose it does make me look kinda scummy, which is something I really need to work on in my play. At the time, I wasn't under fire, so I figured my efforts would be best put trying to get a better read on others. Mafia have it bit easier in that they only have to focus on blending in. I find playing town a lot harder since I have to strike some balance between finding scum, and not making myself look scummy in the process. | ||
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On September 30 2013 08:18 Pandain wrote: The last sentence. The first time I played as town, most of my posts and votes were basically constructed methods to elicit reactions from people and I would try to read into these reactions and compare them to how they interact with others. Hopefully, this will enable me to find some inconsistencies to give me a better idea of scum teams. The result was that I got lynched on day 1. The last game I also got mislynched on d1. After feedback from coaches, I figured that I also needed to be a lot more transparent and vocal so that I can help town by not letting them mislynch me. Currently that's what I'm trying to improve upon. Anyways, I am open to any tips while the game is going on, but I don't want it to detract too much from the discussion at hand. | ||
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