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Balla24
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Balla24
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While not lynching lurkers might be the attitude we have towards the end of the day right now we need to be in the mindset of lynching lurkers until we see that it won't be a problem. It's not a black and white choice for day1 right away. If it's not a problem when it gets close to voting time then we succeeded. If it is a problem, THEN we can discuss whether or not to policy lynch lurkers. But right now the game is still opening up, our mindset should be to policy lynch lurkers. We need to be scumhunting, so hopefully this post serves as an end to the lurker lynching discussion (we will lynch lurkers!!!) and the start to the good stuff. I'd like to hear from the guys who have played together so far (i think that was Bereft, Heavenz and Blurry?), what do you guys think about the opening tone of the game and can you give us some insight on each other's play? | ||
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So all I really have is my knowledge from watching that for a bunch of weeks and then i've lurked in some threads before that. I've read up on a bunch of stuff in the stickies and what not for a while and i decided to dive into this one. | ||
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Balla24
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On September 26 2013 01:20 JonnyLaw wrote: This is an odd question. Feels like someone trying to role call falsely in order to be above suspicion. Why not pm your coach or a mod? Mluneth's other post since joining + Show Spoiler + On September 25 2013 22:51 MLuneth wrote: Hey guys, let try and keep the jokes down a little, it just ends up clogging up the thread, something that just helps mafia. In terms of policy lynching a lurker on d1(and in general), I'm against it simply because it lets maf chill (as they know how we will act) rather then being on their toes and hopefully making mistakes that we can punish. As for my idea on on lurkers, I think pressure is key as there is really no reason for town to avoid discussion. Anyway, greetings from Australia  On Mluneth, I agree his question is kind of odd. In fact, i'm not totally sure what it was meant to say either? I like the longer post though, it was his first post and he just wanted to get his opinion on the topic out there before going to sleep. We aren't really going to hear much more from him for a while as it is 4:00 am where he his atm. | ||
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Balla24
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We just really need to hear from the quiet ones at this point though, they are really stalling the game and it's been a whole 24 hours. Some people have 1/2 posts only and have been quite weird. If we're not going to hear from them though, i'd like to hear a bit more from Heavenz now that some time has passed, maybe there are more insights about how people are acting first day compared to that last game they played together. Blurry specifically, as his opening post -> sudden quietness is worrying from what I hear so far about his play. | ||
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Balla24
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First off: MLuneth's re-entry into the thread is just as confusing as his entry. He opens again with an odd post in On September 26 2013 16:26 MLuneth wrote: Time for my first scum read: heavenz I think he is scum because:
The two points he makes I just flat out disagree with. I think heavenz was making pro-town moves at a point in time that there wasn't really much else going on so it WAS very useful. Past game information is always useful albeit unreliable, and trying to start conversations by asking questions (however relevant or irrelevant they are) is good. We needed discussion at that point in time and he started some. Secondly, many of us discussed the lurker lynching pretty in depth and i thought it was decided that we need to pressure them by threatening the lynch (Zaragon, Me, Heavenz). You even bringing that back up is kind of anti-town. Not only that, but Heavenz wasn't the only one pro-lurker-lynch and I think it's odd that you single him out like this. Suspicious, IMO, but i'd rather spend this day working on getting us into a productive active mode and going after quiet people. Especially now that we are close, we have 3 people who are insanely quiet out of 13, that's NO GOOD. Out of a possible 4 scum that means there's a 30% chance that any one person is scum, I'm willing to take that risk on a quiet person if they don't speak up and offer some good information and become interested. Really unnaceptable, so I'm agreeing with BajaBlood, playerboy and stormtemplar on this one. and final note on the BajaBlood suspiciousness... I don't really agree with that. He's targetting 2 quiet people, and I don't honestly think it matters which one we go after. They need to step up. That's all i have to say about that. | ||
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@JonnyLaw I'm not sold on stormtemplar's behavior being scummy. I would like to both hear more from you about it on why you think his posts have been scummy and also stormtemplar's defense. But at this point I'm not really reading scum from his posts besides the fact that he hasn't really shared tooo much about his reads and has just been going off of others. At least he is disagreeing with people which I like. With that said. We are almost 2 hours from voting and none of the inactive people have shown their faces. We have been asking for them to talk for 2 days now and nothing. Now which one should we lynch? Here i'm going to have to go with ##Vote: Blurry. He started off with a good 1st day post (very early in the game mind you), and then nothing for 2 days straight. Not only is this completely different from his previous game (which I don't think carries too much weight) but he just doesn't seem interested. One last thing though. Both him and xIvan have only posted once and people are saying xIvan is probably going to get modkilled...would Blurry then also get modkilled? | ||
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Activity: You must post in this thread once per day/night cycle and vote every day while you are alive. If you fail to do so, you will be modkilled. BE ACTIVE OR FACE MY ETERNAL WRATH! Everyone has fulfilled that. Can we get some clarification mods, will Blurry/xIvanJ be modkilled or not? | ||
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Simply going inactive is a classic inexperienced mafia behavior, and at best he's an inactive townie, which is not good for us. Obviously he's done nothing scummy, but doing nothing is itself kinda scummy. He needs to show up and post so we can get some reads. Which is exactly what he's done. Kind of interesting that he would say that and then 1 post later disappear. I'm starting to get convinced but not fully. I think I need to hear his defense to see how he reacts to this pressure. I'm with you guys though, and again I'll be here till voting deadline so I hope we get some posts. It's starting to get too late to call though tbh. | ||
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##vote MLuneth | ||
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Just to shed some light on what I was thinking at the end of the day: I was already suspicious of MLuneth due to his posts earlier today. I didn't want to vote him initially because I was more suspicious of Blurry for his inactivity after his intro post (which was completely unlike him based on that other game). Once I realized that we might be wasting a lynch since he might get modkilled, I wanted to switch my target. MLuneth was the only person i was suspicious of at the time. I honestly wish I hadn't gotten distracted though and didn't have to rush my vote because re-reading through this I definitely made a mistake. If I could do it again, I would have stayed on Blurry but the modkill talk made me scared to waste the lynch. This might have been a good situation to no-lynch as well. You live and you learn I guess. Regardless, we need to get Blurry, xIvanJ and Jayte active. Also, let's start the voting process earlier day 2 so we don't have to rush it. Blurry says he's going to post his thoughts before the end of the night so let's make sure we hold him to that. As far as the active(ish) people: I'm feeling pretty good about Bereft because even with the hasty vote and (not that I did any better) how he appears less interested than at the start. He also didn't hop on any bandwagons so there's that too, if he were mafia he probably would have hopped on the MLuneth bandwagon, especially since he picked up on the Vigi claim (i didn't pick that up, chalk it up to inexperience I guess). I'm still not very convinced about stormtemplar. Waiting for his defense, he was here recently and should definitely be posting his defense. Hopefully, if he is scum, we can see some holes and I can hop on board the jonnylaw/heavenz train. I really want to start making some actual scum reads here but with this lack of activity I just can't, which is why I think we won't be making a mistake going after the quiet people. xIvanJ and Jayte, and Blurry if he doesn't follow up on his promise tomorrow. | ||
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Balla24
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On September 27 2013 12:21 Bereft wrote: Sorry I don't understand the question. Are you asking why I didn't switch to xIvanj or jayte instead of MLuneth?following your logic, if you switched to mluneth instead of blurry because you "didn't want to waste a lynch" on someone getting modkilled, how is targeting xlvanj and jayte any different since they'll also get modkilled/replaced if they don't vote again? | ||
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Balla24
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On September 27 2013 12:23 Bereft wrote: balla, who's your biggest scum read at the moment? this is a pretty weak excuse I'm reading more into Bajablood's filter atm. He seems a bit sketchy. He's making empty promises: - Saying he will analyze Stormtemplar in the 20 minutes before vote and post his thoughts and then not posting anything about him. - Saying we had his full attention now that he was back from work and that he would post his thoughts on everybody when he has time. It's now getting close to sleep time for NA and still nothing (he is central time) I also agree with you though, he seems to be analyzing the lurkers a lot, which is somewhat helpful but not nearly as helpful as the rest of the stuff he says he's going to do but doesn't. | ||
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Balla24
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On September 27 2013 12:26 Bereft wrote: no, i'm saying if you switched to a more active player d1 because you didn't want to waste a lynch on someone getting modkilled, following that logic, why should we vote for xlvanj / jayte / blurry d2? i'm referring again in particular to this line: Because they didn't get modkilled so they still have the chance to show up. I mean if we want to just assume they aren't gonna show up again and thus get modkilled that's fine but I still think we need to pressure them. If they are gonna play they need to play. And i'm not saying we should vote for them but pressure them. Let's not waste too much time on it though, but we should definitely be bringing it up every few posts so that they have higher chance to see the pressure. | ||
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