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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 02:40:16
August 11 2013 02:40 GMT
#70
/in

It's been too long.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
August 28 2013 19:55 GMT
#257
/confirm
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
August 30 2013 01:57 GMT
#375
Is everybody okay with me deciding who we lynch today?
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
August 30 2013 02:37 GMT
#388
Oh snap.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
August 31 2013 20:04 GMT
#1346
On August 31 2013 17:20 AxleGreaser wrote:
@WOS Untunnelling

##unvote WOS
(flips coin)
##vote MrZentor




Seems legit.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 01 2013 16:54 GMT
#1774
I'm extremely suspicious of the following people: Oatsmaster, Dandel Ion, Mr. Cheesecake, Clarity_nl, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, VayneAuthority and their shady attempt to save geript.

We should definitely lynch one of them if a vigilante manages to kill geript.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 01 2013 16:57 GMT
#1776
Unvoting geript.
On August 31 2013 20:49 Koshi wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Felkyr


If you couldn't tell, that was the list of people who voted for felkyr over the course of the day.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 01 2013 17:10 GMT
#1777
But don't worry, you're probably the least suspicious of the extremely suspicious.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 01 2013 17:26 GMT
#1783
Assuming his vote rigging ability is a scum role, it would be best for them to use it later in the game. This gives mafia a strong motivation for saving geript, even if it's risky

Which would lead them to vote for the person who is most likely to be lynched besides geript.
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 01 2013 01:17 Crossfire99 wrote:
Day 1 Lynch

geript (6): VisceraEyes, Alakaslam, Cephiro, Clarity_nl, Blazinghand, Dandel Ion, randombum, Koshi, raynpelikoneet
Oatsmaster (0): Dandel Ion (cDgCorazon)
Koshi (0): WaveofShadow
Dandel Ion (0): kitaman27
kitaman27 (0): Dandel Ion, raynpelikoneet
WaveOfShadow (1): AxleGreaser, ShiaoPi
ShiaoPi (1): WaveofShadow
Blazinghand (1): HiroPro, raynpelikoneet
Felkyr (4): Oatsmaster, Dandel Ion, Mr. Cheesecake, Clarity_nl, Koshi, raynpelikoneet
cephiro (0): Blazinghand
Mr. Cheesecake (1): Alakaslam
VisceraEyes (1): strongandbig
MrZentor (1): AxleGreaser
Alakaslam (1): cakepie

The lynch will happen in at Sunday, Sep 01 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00). With 31 alive it takes 16 to lynch. Let me know if I missed something or made a mistake. Remember that only votes in the voting thread count and voting is required.



All I'm saying is that if geript flips mafia, we need to kill one of those people. I don't know if he will or not.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 01 2013 17:33 GMT
#1786
On September 02 2013 02:20 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 01:54 MrZentor wrote:
I'm extremely suspicious of the following people: Oatsmaster, Dandel Ion, Mr. Cheesecake, Clarity_nl, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, VayneAuthority and their shady attempt to save geript.

We should definitely lynch one of them if a vigilante manages to kill geript.

What about me and my completely open attempt to persuade people not to vote geript? Did you read the thread or just the votes?

Why would scum try to "save" geript if they knew the votes didnt matter anyway?

And isn't trying to "save" geript only scummy if he flips scum? Or do you already know that he will?


Yes, obviously there are people who tried to saved geript and didn't vote for felkyr, but they clearly weren't doing their best to save him and therefore not as likely to be scum .

So he could wait to use his ability for when it would be much more useful?

I should have been clear that I'm assuming geript flips scum. I think it's likely given the circumstances. It's also why I said the some of the people were "extremely suspicious" instead of saying that there were definitely scum in the list.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 01 2013 17:47 GMT
#1790
On September 02 2013 02:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
How the fuck can you be extremely suspicious of 7 people for doing the exact same thing.
Can you narrow down the list, maybe? Because you didn't actually... do anything.


I'm purposely not narrowing down the list until geript flips scum, because if he ends up not flipping scum, all the time spent narrowing down the list would be wasted. (Obviously at least half of the people on the list are almost certainly town)

On September 02 2013 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
MrZentor explain to us how i did "my best" to save geript?


Raynpelikeoneet, explain to us how I said that you did your best to save geript.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 01 2013 18:06 GMT
#1803
On September 02 2013 02:50 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 02:47 MrZentor wrote:
On September 02 2013 02:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
How the fuck can you be extremely suspicious of 7 people for doing the exact same thing.
Can you narrow down the list, maybe? Because you didn't actually... do anything.


I'm purposely not narrowing down the list until geript flips scum, because if he ends up not flipping scum, all the time spent narrowing down the list would be wasted. (Obviously at least half of the people on the list are almost certainly town)

On September 02 2013 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
MrZentor explain to us how i did "my best" to save geript?


Raynpelikeoneet, explain to us how I said that you did your best to save geript.


Erm. No it wouldn't. Unless you're saying all 7 of those names are town if geript flips town....

Saying you're extremely suspicious of 7 people is completely useless, it puts no pressure on anyone and it looks like you're just throwing stuff at a wall and seeing what sticks. Please narrow that list down for me, 2/3 names would be cool.


Yes, it would, because most of my theories about who is mafia and who isn't in that list would be founded on the fact that geript is scum. And if it turns out he's town, all that time would have been wasted.

On September 02 2013 02:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
If at obviously least half the people on that list are town why are do you even list them or "mark" them as suspicious. Have you not decided which half yet??????


You're kidding, right? Everybody knows which half it is.

On September 02 2013 02:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 02:33 MrZentor wrote:
On September 02 2013 02:20 strongandbig wrote:
On September 02 2013 01:54 MrZentor wrote:
I'm extremely suspicious of the following people: Oatsmaster, Dandel Ion, Mr. Cheesecake, Clarity_nl, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, VayneAuthority and their shady attempt to save geript.

We should definitely lynch one of them if a vigilante manages to kill geript.

What about me and my completely open attempt to persuade people not to vote geript? Did you read the thread or just the votes?

Why would scum try to "save" geript if they knew the votes didnt matter anyway?

And isn't trying to "save" geript only scummy if he flips scum? Or do you already know that he will?


Yes, obviously there are people who tried to saved geript and didn't vote for felkyr, but they clearly weren't doing their best to save him and therefore not as likely to be scum .

So he could wait to use his ability for when it would be much more useful?

I should have been clear that I'm assuming geript flips scum. I think it's likely given the circumstances. It's also why I said the some of the people were "extremely suspicious" instead of saying that there were definitely scum in the list.

I dunno, from the bolded part i drew the conclusion that the list you gave were people who were doing their best as you find them suspicious.

If that's not what you mean, what do you mean with the bolded statement?


I've said this before; that list is simply the people who voted felkyr at any point in time.

What I mean by that statement is that doing your best to save geript is a combination of trying to persuade others to not vote for him and voting felkyr. Just because you voted for felkyr doesn't mean you did your best to save geript, which is why many in the list are likely innocent.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 01 2013 18:13 GMT
#1805
On September 02 2013 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
EBWOP.
Mr Z has less people to look at to find scum and he can use the main reason of trying to push the lynch to another person other than geript to push these dudes.


Essentially, you're saying that if geript flips scum, it would be bad to be suspicious of the people who tried to save him.

Am I reading this right?
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 01 2013 18:18 GMT
#1807
Oats so scummy.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 01 2013 18:21 GMT
#1809
The point of it is to tell everybody that if geript flips scum, we need to lynch somebody in that list.

That's all.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 01 2013 18:48 GMT
#1813
On September 02 2013 03:45 kitaman27 wrote:
MrZentor, you seemed to suggest that you have some sort of lynch rigging ability. Do you suspect that geript has that mafia equivalent of your role? A theme that might be present this game is town/mafia role variants, perhaps similar to hassy/evil twin and one other that I think I noticed.


Whhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttttttt
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 01 2013 18:52 GMT
#1814
Oh, my first post.

No, I would have been much more subtle.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 01 2013 19:43 GMT
#1817
I'm not always clear about my ideas, so I'm scum.

Dat logic.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 01 2013 19:58 GMT
#1822
*sigh* I guess I should actually respond to this.

The way you decide to do this is to write out all 7 names and call all seven "extremely suspicious". Instead of just saying "if geript flips red we should look at the people who vote felkyr"


Yes

Alright, let's just buy this explanation that you didn't scumslip and you were simply talking about a scenario where geript flips scum.

How is trying to push a wagon that is not geript fine, but if it is felkyr it is extremely suspicious.


Because felkyr actually had a chance to be lynched instead of geript. Anybody who voted for anybody aside from felkyr and geript was essentially abstaining.

Not only did you backtrack from 100% certain geript will flip scum to "I dunno what he'll flip but if he flips scum blabla"


I can't be certain about anything in this game, and if I misled you into thinking I thought I was certain, I'm sorry.

This is some class A bullshit. You just explained why you don't wanna waste a bunch of time narrowing down the list, and then you immediately follow it by saying Obviously at least half of the people on the list are almost certainly town. If it is obvious, why would you have to spend ANY amount of time on it?
If it is obvious, why do you call EVERYONE on that list suspicious??


Keep in mind that this is all assuming geript flips scum. Everybody on that list is suspicious in that they voted for somebody who had a good chance of getting lynched and may or may not have been scum as opposed to somebody who was scum.

Zentor cannot keep his story straight, which means he's not actually thinking about the game.
His posts (especially this votecount analysis without context) are designed to make it look like he's thinking about the game.
Therefore Zentor is scum.


Honestly, if I were scum, I'd be thinking about the game a lot more than if I were town.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 01 2013 20:03 GMT
#1826
On September 02 2013 04:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 04:43 MrZentor wrote:
I'm not always clear about my ideas, so I'm scum.

Dat logic.


It's not that you're not clear, it's that you're inconsistent. Big difference.
If you were town and you had a bunch of townreads in that list of 7 you would not call all 7 extremely suspicious.
Anyway, no need to talk to you anymore, time to die scum.


Why wouldn't I? If it's true that geript is mafia, these people voted in a way that helped mafia. Wouldn't you be suspicious of people assisting the mafia?
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
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