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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 28 2013 18:08 GMT
#232






/in
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 28 2013 23:15 GMT
#272
/What they said
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 30 2013 00:43 GMT
#305
On August 30 2013 09:19 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 23:39 GreYMisT wrote:
Rules:

I expect you to know the rules. You are responsible. They can be found HERE.



I didn't feel so bad about falling for this one....

Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 23:39 GreYMisT wrote:
Read the following HEREregarding additional information regarding this particular setup.


but man I felt like a dope when I fell for this one.


Click this for local, hot college chicks ready to do anything for a good grade.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 30 2013 00:44 GMT
#306
On August 30 2013 09:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well it's good to see that I was eagerly awaiting a fucking SNOOZEFEST.


HI VE U MAF?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 30 2013 00:47 GMT
#311
On August 30 2013 09:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 09:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well it's good to see that I was eagerly awaiting a fucking SNOOZEFEST.


HI VE U MAF?

NOT THIS TIME BRO VOTE GERIPT THO!


BUT I'M NOT 1000% SURE HE SCUM?!
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 30 2013 00:50 GMT
#315
On August 30 2013 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 09:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well it's good to see that I was eagerly awaiting a fucking SNOOZEFEST.


HI VE U MAF?

NOT THIS TIME BRO VOTE GERIPT THO!


BUT I'M NOT 1000% SURE HE SCUM?!

Do you dislike my reasoning? I never claimed to be 1000% sure, but I think my reasoning is pretty sound. :/


So what you're saying is, get rid of him before he becomes "modconfirmed town" that turns out to be scum at endgame?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 30 2013 00:57 GMT
#323
On August 30 2013 09:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 09:53 Blazinghand wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:50 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well it's good to see that I was eagerly awaiting a fucking SNOOZEFEST.


HI VE U MAF?

NOT THIS TIME BRO VOTE GERIPT THO!


BUT I'M NOT 1000% SURE HE SCUM?!

Do you dislike my reasoning? I never claimed to be 1000% sure, but I think my reasoning is pretty sound. :/


So what you're saying is, get rid of him before he becomes "modconfirmed town" that turns out to be scum at endgame?


I never confirmed SHIT that game

BULLSHIT YOU CONFIRMED HIM AS TOWN BY MODKILLING HIS HYDRA PARTNER FOR NOT USING A USELESS HYDRA THREAD THAT THEY WOULD NEVER HAVE USED ANYWAY BECAUSE THEY HAD A SCUM QT BH

YOU MODCONFIRMED SCUM AS TOWN BH GET OVER IT


Oooooooookay let's not beat a dead horse with a tire iron. Unless it's scum.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 30 2013 00:59 GMT
#325
On August 30 2013 09:58 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 09:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:53 Blazinghand wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:50 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well it's good to see that I was eagerly awaiting a fucking SNOOZEFEST.


HI VE U MAF?

NOT THIS TIME BRO VOTE GERIPT THO!


BUT I'M NOT 1000% SURE HE SCUM?!

Do you dislike my reasoning? I never claimed to be 1000% sure, but I think my reasoning is pretty sound. :/


So what you're saying is, get rid of him before he becomes "modconfirmed town" that turns out to be scum at endgame?


I never confirmed SHIT that game

BULLSHIT YOU CONFIRMED HIM AS TOWN BY MODKILLING HIS HYDRA PARTNER FOR NOT USING A USELESS HYDRA THREAD THAT THEY WOULD NEVER HAVE USED ANYWAY BECAUSE THEY HAD A SCUM QT BH

YOU MODCONFIRMED SCUM AS TOWN BH GET OVER IT

How dare thee

To affront The Blazinghand is fallacious



Is Alakaslam some minion of Chezinu? If so, may we kill it with fire?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 30 2013 01:01 GMT
#329
On August 30 2013 10:00 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 09:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:53 Blazinghand wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:50 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 30 2013 09:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well it's good to see that I was eagerly awaiting a fucking SNOOZEFEST.


HI VE U MAF?

NOT THIS TIME BRO VOTE GERIPT THO!


BUT I'M NOT 1000% SURE HE SCUM?!

Do you dislike my reasoning? I never claimed to be 1000% sure, but I think my reasoning is pretty sound. :/


So what you're saying is, get rid of him before he becomes "modconfirmed town" that turns out to be scum at endgame?


I never confirmed SHIT that game

BULLSHIT YOU CONFIRMED HIM AS TOWN BY MODKILLING HIS HYDRA PARTNER FOR NOT USING A USELESS HYDRA THREAD THAT THEY WOULD NEVER HAVE USED ANYWAY BECAUSE THEY HAD A SCUM QT BH

YOU MODCONFIRMED SCUM AS TOWN BH GET OVER IT


Oooooooookay let's not beat a dead horse with a tire iron. Unless it's scum.


I'm pretty sure VE is kidding


This is mafia, it's 1000% serious 99% of the time.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 30 2013 01:06 GMT
#337
On August 30 2013 10:05 geript wrote:
Here's my case:
Slam trolling all wrong. Scum.

Where is my prize?


How does one troll incorrectly? Is he usually a troll, but somehow it is different this game?

I have never seen such an anomaly before, and it behooves me to lynch the crap out of it.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 30 2013 01:13 GMT
#343
On August 30 2013 10:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 10:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 30 2013 10:05 geript wrote:
Here's my case:
Slam trolling all wrong. Scum.

Where is my prize?


How does one troll incorrectly? Is he usually a troll, but somehow it is different this game?

I have never seen such an anomaly before, and it behooves me to lynch the crap out of it.

Behoove is a fun word.
I already stated pregame I'm just going to be ignoring Slam because it's not worth the headache.

There is defs a lot of butthurt spilling over into this game though.
See: Cora's vote


Well, I don't want to be ignoring him if he's scum. I'm assuming we have some sort of vig, so at this point I'm calling for a vig on Slam because he makes no sense.

I'm not even going to ask about Cora's vote, as I wasn't here for this particular shitfest.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 30 2013 01:16 GMT
#349
On August 30 2013 10:14 Cephiro wrote:
Good night everyone.
I am town, I hope you are too.
I like items, but I have none.


##vote: geript


At least he gives poetry with his troll.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 30 2013 17:25 GMT
#776
Hi. Can we lynch this guy? If I have to explain why, you are not town or bad.

On August 31 2013 00:24 Felkyr wrote:
Hi guys. Sorry about me being late and acting as a 'lurker'. I've caught up with the thread now.

What I would like to elaborate on is the Null Talisman. It's the first item we've seen and I think it might be potentially very dangerous (or good of course). Now that Koshi has revealed it, it will surely come into play fast.

Some thoughts:
1) Why did Koshi reveal it? It might be that it blocks his role in some way. Of course, he could just have given it away then anonymously. But now it makes him appear town?
2) Can we trust Clarity to give him the item? I would be very careful with that.
3) On the other hand, now it is revealed, we can be quite sure scum will be after it. If there is about 6 scum (?), there might be a thief and someone who can use it in their advantage.
4) If scum would want to steal the item, how many nights would it take for them to actually use it? One night to steal, one night to give to someone who can use it, one night to actually use it. That's a long time.
5) Has someone a better idea on how the item exchange works? When Koshi gives the item away and it gets stolen on the same night, what happens first? That which is PMed first?

On another note, I don't understand Slam at all. But I have the feeling he says important things in his posts.


##Vote: Felkyr
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 30 2013 17:33 GMT
#777
I also want to lynch Risen because this is his entire filter.

On August 30 2013 15:25 Risen wrote:
I'm so confused by this game.


On August 30 2013 15:39 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 15:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
How about how the fuck we're ever going to win this game with 12 people posting out of 30.
I'm so goddamn sick of lurk.
Geript if I could give you a gun and you'd fire 3 bullets into the air and they'd fall and land on some fucking useless chaff then I would.


That's a little harsh considering the game has very recently started. Seems to me like you're trying to find something to appear active. You should try and tone it back a little, just makes you look like you're puffing up your post count.

On August 30 2013 15:39 Risen wrote:
EBWOP: In hindsight, that's probably considered a filler post as well.


Says he has no idea what's going on and flings shit at random dude.

Let's not lynch rather active people D1. POST OR DIE BITCHES
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 30 2013 17:35 GMT
#780
On August 31 2013 02:34 ObviousOne wrote:
Cheesecake enters and the thread stops cold?


Yeah pretty much that's what happens because I called out scum and everyone is mindfucked.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 30 2013 17:37 GMT
#781
On August 31 2013 02:34 kitaman27 wrote:
Could you explain why? (I'll pick the I'm bad option)


*le sigh*

On August 31 2013 00:24 Felkyr wrote:
Hi guys. Sorry about me being late and acting as a 'lurker'. I've caught up with the thread now.

What I would like to elaborate on is the Null Talisman. It's the first item we've seen and I think it might be potentially very dangerous (or good of course). Now that Koshi has revealed it, it will surely come into play fast.

Some thoughts:
1) Why did Koshi reveal it? It might be that it blocks his role in some way. Of course, he could just have given it away then anonymously. But now it makes him appear town?
2) Can we trust Clarity to give him the item? I would be very careful with that.
3) On the other hand, now it is revealed, we can be quite sure scum will be after it. If there is about 6 scum (?), there might be a thief and someone who can use it in their advantage.
4) If scum would want to steal the item, how many nights would it take for them to actually use it? One night to steal, one night to give to someone who can use it, one night to actually use it. That's a long time.
5) Has someone a better idea on how the item exchange works? When Koshi gives the item away and it gets stolen on the same night, what happens first? That which is PMed first?

On another note, I don't understand Slam at all. But I have the feeling he says important things in his posts.


- apologizes for being a lurker, feels guilty.
- feels the need to tell the thead that he's caught up
- talks about the Null Talisman INSTEAD OF READS.
- Gives no read on Slam.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 30 2013 17:42 GMT
#785
On August 31 2013 02:38 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 02:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 31 2013 02:34 ObviousOne wrote:
Cheesecake enters and the thread stops cold?


Yeah pretty much that's what happens because I called out scum and everyone is mindfucked.

I'm just getting my mind through the journey of Vayne probably town.

What you think of VE? I'm notoriously bad at reading him, give me your two cents.


I've played with VE as scum and town before. Reading him D1 is meh unless he does something really stupid, and I think I have a clue on how to find he's scum from Nomination (we were scumbuddies). I'd rather not reveal that tell atm.

He is also infamous for claiming at stupid times. Which unfortunately isn't alignment indicative.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 30 2013 17:44 GMT
#788
On August 31 2013 02:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
yea, so if town wants to shoot me go for it that seems fine. Maybe it's actually an okay claim since I forgot that we can just combine town roles.

I have a feeling some one is going to roleblock me or some shit though so idk

also to your question rayn, just look at cheesecake's recent post which is exactly how I felt. His opening post has inherent guilt and discusses things that are not actually important. illusory participation.


Town vig shooting town? That doesn't sound like a good idea. Especially if you target townies with your power.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 30 2013 17:47 GMT
#790
On August 31 2013 02:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
yea, so if town wants to shoot me go for it that seems fine. Maybe it's actually an okay claim since I forgot that we can just combine town roles.

I have a feeling some one is going to roleblock me or some shit though so idk

also to your question rayn, just look at cheesecake's recent post which is exactly how I felt. His opening post has inherent guilt and discusses things that are not actually important. illusory participation.


And if you're mafia we just gave scum TWO KP at their disposal.

What do you think of Risen? Short filter but that's what I'm going for, lynch all the lurky people.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 30 2013 17:52 GMT
#793
On August 31 2013 00:36 ObviousOne wrote:
Vayne 3P? Not like town self, not like scum self. Dandel town, get off his nuts. He'd be like "lel you got me" as soon as people started eying him if he was scum. Also this bullshit about his role changing based on being a replacement is hilarious and anyone encouraging that conversation needs their head checked.

@WoS - you seem to be wasting your vote; sometimes the best weapon you can have is patience. Care to explain the enormous anger at people not being here for the first 12 hours of the game? You also have experience playing scum with Vayne, do you think he's on his own team? Why specifically vote Shiao-Pi?

P.S. @Alakaslam - damn, dude, I can BARELY understand you. Please try to clean it up a bit and cut it out with the fucking youtube videos, it makes safari mobile lag. THX


The 3P stuff is stupid, but not alignment indicative. Asks OK questions but never really follows up and is inactive.

Cephiro is actually doing things and posting. Rather lynch Obviousone over Ceph if you're concerned about that.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
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