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On September 20 2013 16:15 Foolishness wrote: This game should be starting... ...That's what I was hoping. | ||
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On September 21 2013 05:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Solstice you should start the game tonight with or without MZ :o Seconded. | ||
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On September 21 2013 12:08 DarthPunk wrote: And you want to be useless and Bad. Cool. Why did DP capitalize "Bad"? I dun lyke sekrits so plox explain Mr.DP. Okay, I'm done with my trolling for the day. I see that geript and DP have engaged in a shitfest argument that is meaningless and spammy filled with ad hominem attacks. That should stop now because it is anti-town play. I like rayn for stepping up to the plate and tell geript and DP to cut out the bullshit. I think DP comes off the worst with this argument. DP has showcased a deliberate and calculted town posting style in past games I've seen of him. He is not the type to spam the thread into uselessness. I'm not saying he's scum, but I really dislike his approach so far. I think we should keep a close watch on him as the day progresses. Geript emerges from the shitfest argument in a favorable light, imo. His town play is usually spammy and meaningless during day one. Good examples include Nuclear Winter and Bluelightz(he was hydra smurf). Still on page 30 catching up to the thread. | ||
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(On page 31) Mr. DP is being extremely defensive. Instead of actively hunting scum, he's running around pouring water on the fire enveloping him. This is what I don't like. Town DP is someone who reads the read carefully, deliberately, and cautiously. His accusations are usually well reasoned and well timed. This is precisely why he is always a good NK for scum and has a penchant for dying early in most games. In this game, DP is entirely different. | ||
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On September 22 2013 17:41 DarthPunk wrote: Which games Have we played in together? Persona, of course! I was scum that game. I believe we killed you night 1. I have read a fair number of games you have played in, particularly your day 1 play. There is a reason you are known to die Day 1 in nearly every game you participate in. It's because you make scum scared. Scum fear you. You aren't scaring anyone this game. That's what I'm worried about. | ||
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On September 22 2013 17:49 FirmTofu wrote: Persona, of course! I was scum that game. I believe we killed you night 1. I have read a fair number of games you have played in, particularly your day 1 play. There is a reason you are known to die NIGHT 1 in nearly every game you participate in. It's because you make scum scared. Scum fear you. You aren't scaring anyone this game. That's what I'm worried about. EBWOP: see bold | ||
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On September 22 2013 17:52 Mocsta wrote: That doesnt make him scummy FT. I understand that meta cases aren't always the best. That's why I haven't made a case on DP and pushed him like an inbred retard (see:geript). I am simply posting my thoughts, nothing more, nothing less. | ||
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On September 22 2013 18:27 DarthPunk wrote: So you are posting useless shit casting me in a scummy light and then are very clearly NOT calling me scum. What the fuck is it with bad players attacking me this game. You need to get off your high horse and step back for a minute. I refuse to indulge you and these ad hominem attacks. Maybe my meta argument is bullshit. Maybe I am completely wrong. That doesn't mean you wave your dick around like you rule the thread and every player is a piece of shit compared to you. If you want to discuss why my thoughts are poorly reasoned, I willing to have a go at it. I will not, however, humor you if you continue to waste my time in this manner. | ||
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Townies know they are town. Therefore, when people call them scum, they instinctively believe the accuser is "bad" or scum. After all, they are town and they know that the accuser is wrong. This knowledge makes them act in anger and frustration when defending themselves. Classic thought process: "How could this asshole accuse me? I'm town! I've been playing super pro-town all game and this guy is saying I'm scum? He must be a terrible player or scum." While DP's anger toward me could be manufactured, it feels rather genuine. | ||
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I wasn't attacking geript with ad hom, I was insulting him. There is a difference. I'm not going to make a meta case on you. I no longer believe you are scum. | ||
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On September 22 2013 18:47 Mocsta wrote: DP. Do you find FT backing down indicative of a townie prodding for information and diverting course as they are satisfied. Or scum prodding around, and diverting as shits about to get started? I know this isn't addressed to me, but I would like to take a moment to address it. I hope you don't mind. As scum, I would use DP as a tool. I know DP is respected in this community and has the ability to sway lynches in his direction regardless of alignment. Assuming DP is town and I am scum, I would latch on to DP and win his trust. Then, I would exchange reads about other players and slowly convince him to vote whoever I wanted him to vote, essentially leading him astray. As town, I am more interested in determining his alignment. You can see which path I chose to take. | ||
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On September 22 2013 18:50 DarthPunk wrote: I find it odd that FT thought I was scummy for being defensive. And then when I am defensive towards him he thinks I am townie. There is a real inconsistency in his narrative IMO. I think a scum Firm Tofu would ABSOLUTELY not want to get into it with me. Further his originally thread summary was really really off. Actually I have had some thoughts. I may construct a longer post shortly about this if you'll give me some time. I would like to clarify my intentions here. The inconsistent narrative was deliberate. Why? You are active. Accusing you allows me to read you better. Think rayn's style of play. By posting an inconsistent narrative, I can gauge your response as being townie or scummy in a quick, direct, and efficient fashion. Furthermore, I can assess the extent to which you are actually scumhunting. The fact that you noticed the inconsistency makes you look more town to me. You want to find scum. You're looking for inconsistencies. I can assure you, scum FirmTofu would buddy you until you die. You'll just have to take my word on that bit. | ||
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On September 22 2013 18:51 FirmTofu wrote: I know this isn't addressed to me, but I would like to take a moment to address it. I hope you don't mind. As scum, I would use DP as a tool. I know DP is respected in this community and has the ability to sway lynches in his direction regardless of alignment. Assuming DP is town and I am scum, I would latch on to DP and win his trust. Then, I would exchange reads about other players and slowly convince him to vote whoever I wanted him to vote, essentially leading him astray. As town, I am more interested in determining his alignment. You can see which path I chose to take. I would like everyone to assess which players are buddying DP and look into them heavily because they are probably playing a scum game similar to how I would play it had I rolled scum. | ||
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On September 22 2013 19:00 Mocsta wrote: Yeah dunno.. your posting is really reading forced to me. That alone doesn't make you scum. I can't follow the above though, regardless of forced/non-forced consciousness... its a lot of talk. As scum I would manipulate player X to be my puppet.. etc etc Very few scum players have that skillset to proactively choose a player to influence; most adapt to the situation as it unfolds. So the above reads as total bullshit to me. Fair enough. I'll give you an example. An extremely relevant one at that. VE has basically been defending DP the entire game. DP, naturally, seems to have no qualms with VE. In fact, I'm fairly sure DP thinks VE is town. Assuming this is true, we must conclude that DP will give VE's opinion more weight compared to the average player in this thread. After all, VE is his town read and town are usually more reliable than scum. If VE is able to convince DP to change his vote on ANYONE, he has already demonstrated that his buddying allowed him to influence DP's vote. In the event that VE is scum, VE can use DP as the voice for his vote, allowing DP to take the brunt of the blame when things go wrong. | ||
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