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Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-07-23 16:33:09
July 23 2006 16:32 GMT
#1
This is an article written about 4 years and half years ago. It has been forgotten by most, but not me; I just had to resusitate it. It is about how Starcraft is dying and our community draws to an end. It is about what is important and what its not. It is a little bit lengthy, 22000 words, although I have trimmed it down a few thosuands words less.

When and if you have the time, give it a read or at least glance, particularly the last parts. It is still good, even after 4 years, in what it is trying to share with us. Also, even if he did get the part "were won't be around for long" wrong it is still a great post. In fact, getting it wrong but keeping the message real, was the beauty in it.

http://forum.samods.org/index.php?topic=8036.0
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
OverTheUnder
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2929 Posts
July 23 2006 16:42 GMT
#2
I would love for him to post again;)
Honor would be taking it up the ass and curing all diseases, damn how stupid can people get. -baal http://puertoricanbw.ytmnd.com/
MuShu
Profile Joined March 2005
United States3223 Posts
July 23 2006 16:56 GMT
#3
I think I read it before, but forgot most of it. Thanks for posting it again, it was a good read.
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
July 23 2006 17:18 GMT
#4
=)
Moderatorsloppy little slug
DaZe
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden2111 Posts
July 23 2006 19:23 GMT
#5
starcraft is just art~~
LogaiN
Profile Joined June 2003
Sweden1073 Posts
July 23 2006 20:40 GMT
#6
blame poker now -_-
GulleFjuN@Europe
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
July 23 2006 20:44 GMT
#7
I dont know about u guys but im playing sc till bnet shuts down.

well na... ill play on hamachi or something
If you avoid your weakness, it will remain your weakness. www.twitter.com/#!/rootheognis Follow me!
RiSE
Profile Joined April 2004
United States3182 Posts
July 23 2006 23:13 GMT
#8
gogo lan YoiChiBow~
heavy hand upon the land, feel it's weight inside you
WastedYouth
Profile Joined March 2006
United States563 Posts
July 24 2006 00:00 GMT
#9
I read the whole thing

Some of us will be on our deathbed, living in our own filth, our lives flashing before our eyes. With our final breath we will utter "Gantrithor" as a little plastic model Carrier slips from our fingers and bounces on the carpet. At that moment the realisation will come to us: Despite all the wars, the squabbles, the disappointment, the bitching, and the depression, the failed promises, the missed deadlines, the shoddy patches, and the complete utter bastards vying for our constant attention, it could have been worse.

maybe just a little melo-dramatic? Reminds me of Citizen Kane
Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. Skill is what happens when luck becomes habit
SpaCe)Ment-rA
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada389 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-07-24 00:09:49
July 24 2006 00:06 GMT
#10
On March 15 2006 18:52 EvilTeletubby wrote:
In all honesty, I'm still amazed that even after 8 years or so, we can find ANYthing that will still wow us



"The gods in Pratchett's books exist because they have followers, a god with five million followers will be a god and one with seven would be one as well, but the gods are weak without many followers, and with only a few they become "small" gods. It's the same with us, we must seek to avoid becoming "small communities"."

We have many of our gods here. I could not name them all, but FA and FireBlast! are great examples.


<3 u all Sc Fans. <3 u Tl.netters.



"We've all learned something from the community, I for one have learned a lot. I have gained skills and experience that would put me on a path in life that might make me a very rich man and all I lost was the time by me maintaining contact with all of you almost daily for the last year. I owe a lot to this community, a debt I could never pay back, and I am not the only one."

I truly second that.

Text was art, thank you very much for giving some new school player to read that, Physician.
In the moonlight, dancing madly backwards
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-07-24 10:34:34
July 24 2006 10:33 GMT
#11
ur welcome.. it has a ton of funny mixed with serious thougths..

Communities do not exist to serve the needs of the few, they exist to serve the needs of the entirety; every man, woman and child who is a part of it. The funny thing is that it doesn't matter if a community is big or small but the fact that it exists. If tomorrow the community was reduced to five people and a duck, I would still continue to work in the community in order to maintain it, even if the duck can't use a keyboard... Only when a community has zero followers will it disappear, so just as long as there are a few of us still actively working, willing to recruit fresh blood and above all have more fun than an elephant in a peanut field then we would still succeed.
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
July 24 2006 11:08 GMT
#12
i bet he quit sc.
Coulthard
Profile Joined September 2005
Greece3359 Posts
July 24 2006 11:17 GMT
#13
sc will never die
Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
July 24 2006 11:31 GMT
#14
thanks for linking this, I sure never read it =O


On July 24 2006 09:00 WastedYouth wrote:
I read the whole thing

Some of us will be on our deathbed, living in our own filth, our lives flashing before our eyes. With our final breath we will utter "Gantrithor" as a little plastic model Carrier slips from our fingers and bounces on the carpet. At that moment the realisation will come to us: Despite all the wars, the squabbles, the disappointment, the bitching, and the depression, the failed promises, the missed deadlines, the shoddy patches, and the complete utter bastards vying for our constant attention, it could have been worse.

maybe just a little melo-dramatic? Reminds me of Citizen Kane


lol i think that was the point
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Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
July 24 2006 14:40 GMT
#15
#WastedYouth - not quite melo-drama but great humour
#tKd_ - nah he is still a moderator in http://www.samods.org, awsome site, alsways good content going almost 8 years strong.
# Locked -yah, he beats about the bush for a while but the title says it all, the complete version has more funny parts.

The community can go on for a good few months, maybe even a year or so if we're lucky, and even when we do slip into the darkness retro-value will come along to change the light bulb. StarCraft was a highly successful game, and the fact is that most highly successful games will enjoy a period of second-chance after it's initial demise. We haven't had that period yet, so we shouldn't burn our bridges just yet.

.. even when he is saying back then, that its dying, he refuses to accept it as soon as he says it: classic fan sign, classic post.
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
FlameD[TOp]
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada247 Posts
July 25 2006 00:52 GMT
#16
Well... at that time starcraft was slowly losing popularity... you don't hear much about the game dying now though.
Koldblooded
Profile Joined July 2006
United States661 Posts
July 25 2006 03:15 GMT
#17
On July 25 2006 09:52 FlameD[TOp] wrote:
Well... at that time starcraft was slowly losing popularity... you don't hear much about the game dying now though.


ya i don't think its dying at all, in fact i just switched to it cuz its better than wc3
By.Flash fighting
fig_newbie
Profile Joined March 2006
749 Posts
July 25 2006 03:29 GMT
#18
I played starcraft for a couple years in college then stopped because it resulted in a disastrous GPA. Thought it was going to die (broodwar.com went kaput T___T), but, out of curiousity, earlier this year I typed in "sc strategies" on google and it led me to this site. Thanks for renewing my starcrack addiction O______O;;
k?
bsj9
Profile Joined December 2005
United States927 Posts
July 25 2006 03:32 GMT
#19
I searched for the word "progaming" and I didn't find it.. A serious article talking about the "death" of Starcraft has got to include its professional side.
Theory-X17
Profile Joined June 2006
United States15 Posts
July 25 2006 03:48 GMT
#20
Thanks for the post.... it was good read :D
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