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JarJarDrinks
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JarJarDrinks
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On June 30 2013 12:25 Oatsmaster wrote: Agree. I also think it's wierd that he's already twice called Lazer a townread. I'm not seeing why he'd think that based on what lazer's posted so far.He instantly buddied marv after his miller claim which doesnt 100% confirm marv as town. Its was like 'Miller claim please' 'im miller' 'k lets win game together marv' Does anyone else not see that something is wrong? I also don't see what's scummy about stutters. Here's his vote for him: On June 30 2013 07:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: And here's the post in question:Actually no, Stutters' last post makes no sense from town point of view. ##Vote: Stutters On June 30 2013 07:06 Stutters695 wrote: I don't quite get what he's saying here. Why doesn't that post make sense for town?I think he's lazy and didn't read the op/didn't comprehend, nbd. WoS I'm not sure. My French is really rusty so I haven't even really tried to read them but I don't like the fact he's typing in a way clearly everyone won't understand. Can't really judge it this early without just WIFOMing myself for ages. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On June 30 2013 13:00 s0Lstice wrote: How is the post scummy though? Yes, It's a pretty dumb statement because like you said: It makes no sense to think that scum would know how many millers are in the game. Which means there's no way the that it could implicate rayn as scum. So if any thought was given to that post, stutters would realize that. I think the fact that stutters clearly made the post without giving it much thought makes him more likely to be town.this is the scummiest post in the thread so far: Look at the thought process here. Rayn seems sure there are not 2 millers in the game-->Rayn knows how many millers are in the game-->Rayn is scum. For this jump to be made, Stutters would have to think scum know how many millers are in the game to get a scummy vibe from Rayn. This makes zero sense. Can't wait to hear your answer on this one my dear stutters. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On June 30 2013 13:00 s0Lstice wrote: my inbox is evergreen lots of scummy shit happening right now, so let's get to work. this is the scummiest post in the thread so far: Look at the thought process here. Rayn seems sure there are not 2 millers in the game-->Rayn knows how many millers are in the game-->Rayn is scum. For this jump to be made, Stutters would have to think scum know how many millers are in the game to get a scummy vibe from Rayn. This makes zero sense. Can't wait to hear your answer on this one my dear stutters. Early town read on Rayn for diving on this. His reaction exactly matched mine. I don't agree at all with your town read on Lazer though, Rayn. Look at how much time he has spent on Marv's miller claim. You know how to deal with a miller claim? You ignore it. All it means is don't DT check the person and that's it. Figure out their alignment just like you would anybody else. The fact that he goes on and on about it looks to me not like he is trying to get at Marv's alignment, but rather he is feeling comfortable talking about a very safe topic in preference to anything of consequence. When he made this quote: ...there was plenty to talk about. Doesn't sit right with me. More, his conclusion from the discussion should be the public assertion that Marv is not 100% confirmed town. He mentions this, but hesitates to draw a line between scummy or wrong for the people who are saying otherwise (Rayn). Smells fishy. Vivax- What are you doing here? Passively flinging shit on a guy who is probably not here, and said activity would be light in the early going? Explain yourself. Explain this too while you're at it: Who gives a shit? Why are you so self-conscious? Anyway, little break now. More in just a bit. | ||
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On June 30 2013 14:44 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah this is what I was saying. If Stutters meant it as an accusation, it wasn't well thought out. I'd think that if scum was about to accuse someone of being scummy, they would first ask themselves "Is this at all believable?"So you are saying as scum stutters wants to throw suspicion on Rayn for something that scum dont know. I dont think this is really all the believable | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On June 30 2013 14:13 s0Lstice wrote: Sure. I think the reach on stutters has been discussed enough so I'll wont spend too much more time on that. But I'll say that you called it the scummiest post in the thread and I don't see how it was even a little scummy. Yea, or I'm town and am attacking stuff that looks scummy. Let's hear your explanation on how I'm 'reaching.' You go after Lazer simply because he he spent time talking about marvs miller claim. How is that at all scummy? That's what the main subject of the thread was. He wasn't the only one talking about it. You say that there was plenty of other stuff to talk about. But there really wasn't @ that point. The miller stuff was pretty much all that was discussed yet. You accuse Vivax of "Passively flinging shit on a guy who is probably not here". He was just noting that marv hadn't posted anything since his original claim post. None of these things you mentioned seemed very scummy to me. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On July 01 2013 05:25 Oatsmaster wrote: I would guess yes to both of these. Though S0lstice is my my top scumread right now.JJD is rayn scum and stutters town? | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On June 30 2013 13:15 s0Lstice wrote: I mean. What is he trying to say here? How is what stutters was saying no reason @ all as opposed to bad reasoning?If it could in no way implicate Rayn as scum, why did Stutters suggest Rayn is scum? Do townies suggest people are scum without considering the reason behind why they are doing so? Townies call people scum for BAD reasons, yes, but no townie does it without any reason at all. This is what scum do. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On July 01 2013 04:34 gumshoe wrote: So what if I was piggybacking off Oats's Rayne case? I happen to agree w/ it. Should I have not given my opinion about it instead? I wasn't attacking Lazer. I was saying that I found it odd that Rayn decided to call him a townread because I don't know why he thought that. I never said that Lazer was a scumread of mine. Just that I don't know why rayn would read him as town @ that point.Jar Jar Drinks's first post is essentially just him piggy backing off Oat's accusation of Rayne (who in turn was just recycling my initial analysis and presenting it as his own but with gusto) while simultaneously attacking Lazer without providing any reason why (he also associates them here as if they are in league, when in reality they're is no real proof connecting the two other than Wifom) he backs mine and Oat's assesment of Stutters maybe just being silly town, but doesn't comment on his long absence. His next "big" post attacks Solstice for commenting on the major matter at hand and for trying to pressure others. What really pisses me off though is this How is it not scum-hunting? It's a scum trait to not want to accuse people and to be afraid to give your opinion. He was going out of his way to let everyone know that he was gonna be accussing several people of being scummy. Like, just make your cases. I wasn't saying he was pompous at all. This is not scum hunting, this is him attacking Solstice's character, when all Sol has really done is try contribute his opinion on the miller incident(which he hadn't yet done) and try draw out responses while weeding out fluff. Also you dont even really accuse him of scum play, you effectively just say hes pompous, how is that scummy? | ||
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On July 01 2013 06:18 gumshoe wrote: Are you purposefully misconstruing what I'm saying here? I didn't say it was scummy to accuse people. I said it was scummy to announce that you're accusing people. Add to that the fact that all the things he accused people of were weak fluff cases and I don't know why you'd say that I wasn't scumhunting.0_0 so your saying he was trying to look not scummy by doing the thing that scum players dont do? Wifom much? | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On July 01 2013 06:38 Vivax wrote: Good point. I just didnt notice anything else scummy from you nor was I really looking. I only noticed it from rayn after I went back into his filter.JarJar, question for you. Rayn gave Lazer a townread as reaction to me doing the same. Why did you call Rayn out but not me? | ||
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I laid out my case against Solstice already. He'd be my preferred lynch today. | ||
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On July 01 2013 10:58 Oatsmaster wrote: Ugh, I really didn't see this before I post. I'm sure I'll be accused of sheeping you some more.I think that Rayn could be town | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On July 01 2013 11:17 gumshoe wrote: Is this a serious question? Because I know for a fact that I am town. If I get lynched, the town is definately 100% losing a townie.Wow, flip flop much? Also a willingness to vote for someone you think is good to save yourself... is towny how? | ||
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On July 01 2013 11:32 gumshoe wrote: No, that wasn't your point. You asked me how it was townish to be willing to vote someone that I had a townread on to save myself. You were not saying or even implying anything about me not pissing people off. You jumped on a statement I made and tried to call it scummy which it wasn't @ all. Which you are straight up admitting by not answering my question.My point is you dont sound like your in it to find scum or help town at this point, your just trying to not piss people off and survive the day. And honestly do you think I can treat the old "I'm town so towns gonna get hurt when I die" with any value whatsoever? And then here you try to twist it around like I'm trying to use it to make myself seem more town when YOU'RE the one who asked the question. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On July 01 2013 12:00 s0Lstice wrote: Glad u asked I want to know who is scum outside of me, JarJar, and why.  .pretty sure gumshoe is scum All gumshoe has done is look for miniscule things that he can label piggybacker/flip-flopper/etc... And he's calling people out a bunch because of activity issues just because they leave the thread for a bit. Look @ all of these posts: On June 30 2013 13:04 gumshoe wrote: My issue is he takes off after pressure turns on him, he stops contributing in hopes of saving himself, that strikes me as a noob scum messing up and trying to wait out the pressure. On July 01 2013 04:34 gumshoe wrote: Thats because the pressure put on Stutters wasn't necessarily meant to secure a vote on him, it was there to push Stutters to react and force sides. Instead Stutters backed off until the heat blew over, I dont believe for a second that he just happened to leave for half a day right after people started putting pressure on him,this is what I find inherently scummy about his play. The town move would be to stay in chat, confront accusations and attempt to contribute and redirect town discussion, which Rayne has done (albiet somewhat unsuccessfully considering everyone and they're mom wont let the miller thing drop for an hour even). On July 01 2013 05:02 gumshoe wrote: I also am not dropping the case on you not because your generaly inactive, but because of a certain period in which you were inactive, a stretch of time wherein we could of used you to clarify things, contribute and clear your name, instead you vanished at a critical moment and that felt to me like you were trying to regroup with scum and wait things out. Which worked, nobodies really mad at you anymore, so of course your here now eager to help. On July 01 2013 06:13 gumshoe wrote: I mean, look @ this last post. How are those the only options? How about "He's doing something unrelated to the game on a Sunday Afternoon"? He's trying to cast suspicion based on stuff that are outside the realm of the game. Like what does he mean by someone gave me a heads up once the heat built up? Is he implying that I wasn't following the game thread but I was following the scum thread and someone there told me I need to go post?Lastly, isn't it funny how Jar Jar's been gone all day then jumps in once the heat builds? Hes either actively not contributing or someone gave him a heads up  .Also look @ that 2nd post where he says "the pressure put on Stutters wasn't necessarily meant to secure a vote on him, it was there to push Stutters to react and force sides.". But that wasn't really what he said when he was supecting stutters earlier On June 30 2013 12:37 gumshoe wrote: Pretty much my reasoning a little whole ago XD but actively looking for miller as a bud isn't scummy, its neutral, I would rather see what stutters pops, because he's less of an asset. If he flips red I cant see Ryan being scum, if we blindly lynch Rayne and he's town that'll just suck. Basically I rather risk stutters before Ryane XD. And yes this game is about hunting scum, not doing risk assessment but Rayne looks suspicious because he's in to good a manufactured position and stutters looks suspicious because he's made a mistake. I find the latter usually more damming so I swing more scum on him at the moment and it doesn't hurt that were risking less. It only became about pressuring stutters after the fact because gumshoe was pushing his "Stutters left the thread because he was scum and couldn't handle the pressure" agenda. And lastly, since I know I'm town (I know that no one else can know this but I'm giving my own reasons) and there are 3 people voting me. Odds are that 1 of em is scum since I'd imagine they'd want to spread their vote around. vote: gumshoe | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On July 01 2013 17:03 Vivax wrote: Well, I did mention that I'm now leaning town on rayne based on his recent postings. I do happen to disagree w/ almost all of his reads though. Lazer I'm not sure of. I don't think that there'd be more than 1 scum piling on me and I have a strong scumread on gumshoe. I think you're town. I think you've made decent cases that have actual substance.This question is kinda old now but you left it unanswered. You didn't comment on the Rayn/Lazer/Me matter at all. New question: What happened to your s0lstice scumread? I still have a scumread on solstice. Just not as strong as gumshoe. Solstice hasn't really posted too much since I accused him. | ||
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On July 01 2013 21:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Please explain to me what you like about his posts. Is it just because I'm a scumread of yours? Assume that you know I'm gonna flip green and go back reread his filter and tell me everything I said about him isn't accurate. Look @ how he just jumps on me for flip-flopping simply because I said that you convinced me that you were now town.gumshoe: Definitely town. Has the best posts in thread atm. JarJarDrinks: I called Solstice out because I thought his scumhunting was bad and contrived. I made my case. What else should I have done to follow up on it? Calls out Solstice for scumhunting. Good job, that's his top scumread at that time. Doesn't follow up this suspicion in any way and is now voting for Gumshoe as an OMGUS. Hey JarJar How can you say it's just an OMGUS. Yes, the fact that he's voting for me is part of my case. I don't think that all 3 votes on me were townies. But did you read everything I wrote? The stuff about him jumping on stutters for leaving the thread? Implying that a scumbuddy alerted me to go post in the thread? These are scummy things to point out because they can't be argued against. Does anyone care to here what I was doing during the day yesterday when I was inactive? | ||
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On July 01 2013 22:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: So? It's day 1 and my read changed. It happens.JarJar: Because you are flip-flopping. Why do you think WoS is town? I guess I haven't thought much about WoS so I'm null atm. I'll go back and dive and get back to you.Why is Vivax not suspicious for doing the same thing with me that you say gumshoe is doing with you (looking things from only one perspective)? OK, because like I said, I like the cases he's made. I agree w/ everything he pointed out about you in regards to the miller/marv stuff. It's the same type of stuff that made me suspicious of you in the first place. The whole looking @ things from one perspective doesn't even compare. Look @ what I'm talking about in regards to gumshoe: On July 01 2013 12:13 JarJarDrinks wrote: You really think that's similiar to what vivax is doing? I mean, look @ this last post. How are those the only options? How about "He's doing something unrelated to the game on a Sunday Afternoon"? He's trying to cast suspicion based on stuff that are outside the realm of the game. Like what does he mean by someone gave me a heads up once the heat built up? Is he implying that I wasn't following the game thread but I was following the scum thread and someone there told me I need to go post? Point out why Solstice's questions were bad, and you have a case. I did: + Show Spoiler +On July 01 2013 05:23 JarJarDrinks wrote: Sure. I think the reach on stutters has been discussed enough so I'll wont spend too much more time on that. But I'll say that you called it the scummiest post in the thread and I don't see how it was even a little scummy. You go after Lazer simply because he he spent time talking about marvs miller claim. How is that at all scummy? That's what the main subject of the thread was. He wasn't the only one talking about it. You say that there was plenty of other stuff to talk about. But there really wasn't @ that point. The miller stuff was pretty much all that was discussed yet. You accuse Vivax of "Passively flinging shit on a guy who is probably not here". He was just noting that marv hadn't posted anything since his original claim post. None of these things you mentioned seemed very scummy to me. | ||
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