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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 02 2013 04:37 GMT
#27
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Onegu
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Last Edited: 2013-07-06 21:35:44
July 06 2013 21:33 GMT
#141
We start in half a hour correct
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Onegu
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July 06 2013 22:28 GMT
#212
On July 07 2013 07:23 geript wrote:
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On July 07 2013 07:20 austinmcc wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:05 geript wrote:
Dandel, why do you nuke me with the first post instead of even trying to divine my alignment? Why take an easy potshot like that? Why even pretend to nuke when we don't even know if nukes have to be posted in the thread?

On July 07 2013 07:07 geript wrote:
Yo Dandel. I already asked you why fake nuke? Don't fucking do that shit. It's quite possible other teams 3P/Scum don't have to post their nukes in the thread and then that just fucks shit up of the rest of us. STOP

'splain please

In Hydra 2 nukes could be pm'd to the host to be sent without having been posted in the thread. Had scum noticed they would've nuked Fivetouch when Palmar/DP fake nuked them. I didn't see anything requiring nukes be posted in the thread in the OP so there's no reason to fake nuke as it can really fuck up town if a hidden nuke is launched off of a fake nuke.


This really makes since to me, until we know for sure we shouldnt launch fake nukes.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 06 2013 22:46 GMT
#229
On July 07 2013 07:45 gumshoe wrote:
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On July 07 2013 07:38 Xatalos wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:29 gumshoe wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:27 geript wrote:
Also, who the fuck is gumshoe?


A wild card. I have no existing meta Geript, does that frighten you?


Well, we were scum together once (GoT). Does it frighten you that I know if you're scum?


That was the worst I've ever played in any game ever period regardless of the medium. I've had five second pacman wipes and six pool vs cc first loses (dont ask me how) that were more impressive than my play in GOT mafia. My play was so low that Gravity will compel me upwards from it. All you know of me are my darkest hours, Xata. Good luck recognizing my scum play on that basis.


So you are saying we should base your scum play off this game?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 06 2013 23:26 GMT
#277
On July 07 2013 08:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos:
There is a significant difference how people act as scum or as town.
I say X is town. Town players usually ask me to provide some evidence on that, and base their read on me based on that evidence. Scum say "you are scum, you can't have a townread on him based on anything".

geript is scum for that, are you?



Wait what? This is only my third game but I thought the request was reasonable. And I would like to know why you are fighting giving reasons for makeing a town read so hard. I want reasons so I can compare my thoughts and give feedback just because you have a town read doesnt mean I do and your reasons my make me look at him in a different light.
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Onegu
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United States9699 Posts
July 06 2013 23:44 GMT
#303
On July 07 2013 08:05 geript wrote:
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On July 07 2013 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:47 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now you want to lynch me because of the first 20minutes into the game i decided to joke (mostly).

I think you're misunderstanding what I've been doing. I just wanted to skip past the mafia foreplay and get straight into the calling scum phase.

On July 07 2013 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see a town motive for not reading the thread. Do you?

So you're trying to soft call me scum for not reading the thread carefully in the first ~50 min. Isn't that a bit hypocritical

First part: I don't understand? Explain.

I'm on a time crunch before I have to work tonight and wanted to get past the jovial joking trolling foreplay phase of mafia and skip straight to the scumhunting/scumfucking part of it.

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Second: What? That was about M_Z.

So write more clearly.

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On July 07 2013 07:48 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 07:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gumshoe is supertown.

explain. This is like the scummiest statement you've made so far.

Why?

You have a supertown read on a person who I consider to be completely null. I want you to explain that shit so that I can either A understand the read or B call you scum for having a town read on a completely null player. Capice.


Going back his first post is explain, then his second is why he wants the read. Sure he does put some soft scum reads in there, but I think the requests are clear and reasonable.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 07 2013 06:49 GMT
#412
On July 07 2013 13:37 johnnywup wrote:
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On July 07 2013 11:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 07 2013 10:30 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 10:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
But honey I didn't make it obvious! How did you figure me out?

Just tell me who is on your scum team.

Well since you caught me I feel it's only fair.
It's me, Ace, SnB, CaucasianAsian, and of course I'm bussing johnnywup.

could you please stop shitting up this thread?


And this post is doing what? I really dont like most of your posts, that being said Im not convinced you are scum yet.

Is chezinu just crazy and will be like this all game?

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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 07 2013 16:07 GMT
#479
On July 07 2013 09:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On July 07 2013 09:45 Xatalos wrote:
Confused about Chezinu's play, but I don't think that was a scumclaim. If he was scum, why would he announce it rather than launching it in secret? It seems more like a really stupid town play.

If I don't survive, I'd ask people to pressure johnnywup atm. All his posts so far reek of vagueness and add nothing valuable to the thread.

I'm starting to think that raynpelikoneet is likely town despite my initial concerns about his posting style.

I've already stated this, but he did it in mafia LX as mafia dayvig and he was scum.
Now, it's entirely possible that (as stated earlier by somebody) Chez was faking it and scum used it as cover to nuke Xat themselves. I'm willing to bet there was no need for Chez to actually type it in thread if it was his. Either way if people CAN stop this I'm not entirely sure it should be.

Also hai guise I back.
Did I miss anything important other than what is likely a whole bunch of town players all shitting on each other?


What made you get off of chez and on to johnny? So far chez has refused to answer all relevant questions, only saying he did in fact launch his nuke but not why or what type of nuke.

Johnny has mostly posted fluff, but so have I (first game as town), but I dont see any lynchable offenses yet.

If chez launched a positive/non lethal nuke why not claim it?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 07 2013 16:19 GMT
#483
On July 08 2013 01:09 Xatalos wrote:
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On July 08 2013 00:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
johnny is probably town, get your votes off him. Maju for example is far better target, and if you can't tell me what's wrong with my Chezinu-analysis you should be obviously voting for him.


Honestly, I'd say that him flipping scum wouldn't surprise me. That nuke was insane as either alignment but makes slightly more sense as scum. Still, there are so many shady characters in the thread right now that I'm inclined to lynch one of them. Chezinu should reveal himself as scum more easily as the game continues (given his apparently careless play).



They could both be town or both be scum launching positve nuke, xatalos has already posted he is immune to certain types of nukes, what if he gets a buff if hit with that type of nuke. The second only applies if both are scum, but if it is a straight up buff nuke why not claim it?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 07 2013 16:36 GMT
#491
On July 08 2013 01:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yeah, johnny probably town at this point but I'm not sure how much that helps us. I'd bet there is 1 MAYBE 2 scum voting him right now.
As for Onegu:
I have a little something pre-written up on him but I'm going to sit on it a bit.

Onegu, do you have any nukes? If you had one (or do have one) who would you nuke right now and why?

No I dont have a nuke, if I did I wouldnt launch day 1 though, but if I was forced to I would kill chez, as he refused to answer any relevant questions and I think he is either maf or 3p.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 07 2013 16:40 GMT
#493
On July 08 2013 01:28 Xatalos wrote:
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On July 08 2013 01:19 Onegu wrote:
On July 08 2013 01:09 Xatalos wrote:
On July 08 2013 00:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
johnny is probably town, get your votes off him. Maju for example is far better target, and if you can't tell me what's wrong with my Chezinu-analysis you should be obviously voting for him.


Honestly, I'd say that him flipping scum wouldn't surprise me. That nuke was insane as either alignment but makes slightly more sense as scum. Still, there are so many shady characters in the thread right now that I'm inclined to lynch one of them. Chezinu should reveal himself as scum more easily as the game continues (given his apparently careless play).



They could both be town or both be scum launching positve nuke, xatalos has already posted he is immune to certain types of nukes, what if he gets a buff if hit with that type of nuke. The second only applies if both are scum, but if it is a straight up buff nuke why not claim it?


Buff nuke? Are there such nukes? Well, anything is possible I guess. Do you honestly believe we're both scum and he's just trying to buff me like this though? If not, why speculate about it? There are many more useful topics out there right now, after all.


Why not speculate it is something to think about.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 07 2013 16:48 GMT
#494
On July 08 2013 01:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On July 08 2013 01:36 Onegu wrote:
On July 08 2013 01:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yeah, johnny probably town at this point but I'm not sure how much that helps us. I'd bet there is 1 MAYBE 2 scum voting him right now.
As for Onegu:
I have a little something pre-written up on him but I'm going to sit on it a bit.

Onegu, do you have any nukes? If you had one (or do have one) who would you nuke right now and why?

No I dont have a nuke, if I did I wouldnt launch day 1 though, but if I was forced to I would kill chez, as he refused to answer any relevant questions and I think he is either maf or 3p.

What if he is mafia or 3p with a 'buff' ability like you said? Would you be worried about that?
What kind of nukes do you think are possible in a game like this and what kind of other abilities?


Ok first if he is maf I doubt he has a nuke to buff, he may have a type of nuke that xata is immune to though. I think radiation will be a factor in this game either positive or negitive. And people will have abilities based on this side effect.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 07 2013 18:43 GMT
#517
On July 08 2013 03:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
I think the biggest topics of the day have been Chezinu, me, Xalatos, Johnnywups....anyone else?
Maybe Geript and Rayn as well?


Me too
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 07 2013 19:34 GMT
#526
Sleeping soon so if there are any questions in the next half hour or so I will be around.

The next thing is on Alakaslam, his activeity level has me feeling scummy. Compared to his last game where he would post about his dinner, add in the fact he watched 2 lurkers make it to endgame.

The chez situation really needs to be explored more, and if he refuses to give answers he needs to be lynched. Just the way he admited he launched it but didnt explain why gives me a really big scum vibe, and he really doesnt add much productivity to the thread either.

##VOTE: Chezinu
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 08 2013 03:54 GMT
#788
On July 08 2013 05:34 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
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On July 08 2013 04:34 Onegu wrote:
Sleeping soon so if there are any questions in the next half hour or so I will be around.

The next thing is on Alakaslam, his activeity level has me feeling scummy. Compared to his last game where he would post about his dinner, add in the fact he watched 2 lurkers make it to endgame.

The chez situation really needs to be explored more, and if he refuses to give answers he needs to be lynched. Just the way he admited he launched it but didnt explain why gives me a really big scum vibe, and he really doesnt add much productivity to the thread either.

##VOTE: Chezinu


There's no real way to read chezinu. He's always like this. In fact, you speculate this earlier:

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On July 07 2013 15:49 Onegu wrote:
On July 07 2013 13:37 johnnywup wrote:
On July 07 2013 11:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 07 2013 10:30 geript wrote:
On July 07 2013 10:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
But honey I didn't make it obvious! How did you figure me out?

Just tell me who is on your scum team.

Well since you caught me I feel it's only fair.
It's me, Ace, SnB, CaucasianAsian, and of course I'm bussing johnnywup.

could you please stop shitting up this thread?


And this post is doing what? I really dont like most of your posts, that being said Im not convinced you are scum yet.

Is chezinu just crazy and will be like this all game?



Chezinu is just a crazy guy. Don't try to get all up on some high horse like you're trying to push a real lynch. You just want to lynch chezinu because he's acting like chezinu? No, even then you'd have other things to say about other players. You are scum who is trying to look productive by attacking a guy who's just like insane. Nice try but it's not gonna fly, brother.

##vote Onegu


Really, I dont know what chezinu even acts like as this is my first game with him and since he was dodgeing questions it is legit to vote him
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 08 2013 03:56 GMT
#789
On July 08 2013 07:35 MajuGarzett wrote:
Ok, just caught up, sorry for being inactive

One of the people I find scummy is Vayne. He voted pretty early based off of one post and after that hasn't done much.
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On July 08 2013 05:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:31 geript wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:26 geript wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen him make sense as either alignment. But I think it was a newbie game and another game or two (as town) where he came off as super arrogant. I don't see that at all here. I also don't see how his conspiracy theories make him town. Normally, I would agree that that type of this tends to be a newbie town tell, but I don't see any real convoluted aspect to them. His thought process is just so intentionally murky to me that I don't like it in addition to the random meta bonus. But eh,

Can we at least both agree that NirvanaMonkey should be lynched if he doesn't do shit other than his one previous post?


I play differently in every single game so meta'ing me with a pretty bad choice. I will agree that the posted you quoted is intentionally scummy, I was trying to bait scum into trying to make some shitty case on it but I don't really think you're scum so it didn't work that well.

Stop wasting your time and my time then. Just scum hunt and make your thought process clear. Who are your top scum targets and why?


Right now im looking at johnny and Caucasian. I already placed my vote/reasoning on johnny if you filter me so now to caucasian...

filler post then the old I'm drunk thing so I can't help town.

When do drunk posts ever turn back town unless it's like BH? It's such a cop out. If you're drunk don't post or at least try harder then that.

If he's town I really have no regrets as he is giving us nothing to work with


That post is the most of his thoughts he's given and all it is is repeating that he suspects Johnny and then making a read on somebody with no meaningful posts.

I feel he voted early to look eager in looking for scum and is trying to use that to go under the radar. To me it seems like little output from about 20 posts.


I agree with the suspicion about Onegu.

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On July 08 2013 04:34 Onegu wrote:
Sleeping soon so if there are any questions in the next half hour or so I will be around.

The next thing is on Alakaslam, his activeity level has me feeling scummy. Compared to his last game where he would post about his dinner, add in the fact he watched 2 lurkers make it to endgame.

The chez situation really needs to be explored more, and if he refuses to give answers he needs to be lynched. Just the way he admited he launched it but didnt explain why gives me a really big scum vibe, and he really doesnt add much productivity to the thread either.

##VOTE: Chezinu


Here he says we need answers from Chezinu or Chezinu should be lynched but then votes in the same post. Why not wait and see if there's a reply? I think he might just be trying to start a bandwagon.

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On July 08 2013 01:07 Onegu wrote:
Johnny has mostly posted fluff, but so have I (first game as town), but I dont see any lynchable offenses yet.

And here he justifies fluff posting as being new to the game. I don't think that makes sense, regardless of experience, its not hard to take some time between posts to write something constructive instead of just spouting fluff

##Vote: Onegu

Looking at Abenson's filter, it's hard to say much from 2 posts and since both posts are close together he might just be busy, but he really avoided saying anything about anyone.


Meaning if he answed the questions I will unvote him.

##:UNVOTE
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 08 2013 04:23 GMT
#797
On July 08 2013 12:00 johnnywup wrote:
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On July 08 2013 11:54 Chezinu wrote:
If I didn't pass the potato.. my hands would have burned.

I may have a similar role to you.


I really dont like this post.
Have you launched your nuke yet?

Just seems like a good excuse to nuke someone.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 08 2013 04:42 GMT
#799
On July 08 2013 11:41 Chezinu wrote:
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On July 08 2013 11:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2013 11:34 Chezinu wrote:
On July 08 2013 11:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2013 11:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
johnnywup
NG
caucasianasian

horrible try again

also Chez a little more explanation plz.

Have you ever felt compelled to do someone?

That's a personal questions chez...

Let's say you had a nuke coming at you. What would you do in order to survive?


This is his reason for launching at xata I think, I think he means xata launched at him so he launched back.


If I didn't pass the potato.. my hands would have burned.


And here is the reason he launched.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 08 2013 07:27 GMT
#838
On July 08 2013 16:06 Alakaslam wrote:
Where are you caucaisianasian? It's midnight and I don't got all night.

Like what WoS has been doing. Town. SHOW ME YOUR ENE- oh wait, У меня нет никакой власти...

I did tryhard at referencing the greats last game. That is a part of me, so:

Chezinu is reminding me of Drazerk in Aperture. I remember thinking his lynch that game was really disappointing.

I am thinking best lynch Ghost403.

So I will vote him.

YOUR THOUGHTS?

Pressure the lurker folks.


Wait so you are just going to put your vote down on someone lurking for a policy lynch?

You give no reason for doing so you just fish for thoughts on it. Here is my thought you just voted random one of the lurkers for absolutly no reason. Why him and not dandol or anyone else for that reason?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 08 2013 07:34 GMT
#843
On July 08 2013 16:30 Alakaslam wrote:
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On July 08 2013 16:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 08 2013 15:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
##vote: NG
NG is scum.
He says both WoS and vayne are scum then votes Onegu for being bad. then he gets into rayns face for NO Reason. This guys scum guys


To expand on this, this set of quotes:

On July 08 2013 06:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:58 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:43 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Nirvana.Gabo why is Onegu your target and not me?


I happened to notice Onegu's posts in the past few pages and I didn't notice yours.

Ahh so you don't read the whole thread and just vote reactionary?
Is this the behaviour you are going to follow the whole game?


I didn't say I didn't read your posts noob

Now you are making zero sense. Elaborate please.


NG says he noticed Onegu's posts about Chezinu but not mine.
Then he says he apparently did see my posts after all?
When i ask him to clarify, he does not answer.
scum.

Chezinu: After the possible nuking period is over (in some hours), i expect you to give your clear reasoning for nuking Xatalos over anyone else in the game. If you do not give that, i will be lynching you until you die and i encourage everyone else to do so. Right now you are only flip-flopping around the question, saying "i am dead already" (lol, people take this at face value??). I don't care if you had to launch your nuke or not, i care about why Xatalos was in your opinion the best target of all the people.

Oats i am not scum. Why do you think Johnny is scum?

Alakasam is either scum or terribad.


Proof of the latter.

Enjoy The OMGIS manifesto

And slightly proud of it! :D dat's how bad.

...... I should get better in time.


Except you started to play better after day one, this is like you are playing completely different, I know I shouldnt use meta but something is different here and I am trying to get a feel for what it is.

Do you have a nuke?
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