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On top of that there are the normal mafia rules. Scum can kill 2 players each night and Town can lynch 1 guy each day. Then for reads. I don't have much to add right now. I watched CA his post log and I didn't see anything suspicious. He is even drunk posting again like he did in the TL+ game. He was town in that game. I don't know what to make of that, does he do that each game or is it strategy? Nobody can see the TL+ game so maybe he is repeating the strategy. I decided to take a look on his analysis on people, because he was SPOT ON some people in the previous game, he was correct on who was mafia in my previous game on Day 1 and I still don't understand how he read that. But sadly enough he is not pointing any suspicion around yet, only pointing out the inactives. So I can't do further analysis on that. So then I decided to take a look at Abenson and he was also being the same guy as in previous game. It's unbelievable how he makes 5 posts. 1 is to /in, 2 are saying that he is reading the thread, and the last 2 are insane claims that make everybody frown. So I can understand that [UoN]Sentinel says that this guys look scummy like hell but I find that statement quite lackluster. So dnu what to make of that either... Anyway, I got 30 more hours to catch up. Nobody is really thinking anything of my guy, so I should be safe :D. Kinda refreshing after last game where my first posts where so bad everybody thought I was scum. | ||
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PS: I totally fell for that Bank transition post where you could buy nukes. Pretty awesome post. | ||
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- Stutters695 is doing nothing. His last post was 30 hours ago saying that he was "in full force". - During the vote for lynch there were so many people going for random targets. I don't understand why anyone would want to do that. - FirmTofu is pointing fingers a lot (7 players) but most of the time to targets that are never going to get lynched. Or at least not in the first 96 hours. During the lynch he stayed on VA while his first scum target was DI. OriginalName was one of the guys that wasn't yet called out by him. I don't understand why he didn't vote on DI. And now he is on jampidampi... - austinmcc his posts are clear and well constructed. I could see myself following his lead. He looks a bit like me in my previous game (this is not a compliment), a lot of suspicious post in the first day but completely picking his game up after that. I don't really understand how the bickering with Oats started, but I can find myself in the reasoning. However, with Xatalos bringing up that defense... Also, wouldn't it be smart for Oats to just not defend and keep his mouth shut? Now he lost his defensive missile on Day 1. But like I said, austinmcc is town for me. - Chezina is completely random. Too much imagination or too much time on his hands, probably both. Scum or blue role that doesn't want to die? Anyway, I like the content of his posts. For amusement. - Z-Boson is another completely random guy, but unlike Chez he seems to have an agenda. I don't know, he posts like he is not part of the town, like a guy on his own. If I knew from myself I wouldn't be superactive, I would be more like a sheep, following the active guys. I see him as 3rd party but that is only because he is not playing ball. - I dont understand why Ryan died. I actually wanted to make a post about how he was probably scum, I was pretty proud of myself until I saw he died during night 1... - I can't figure out Ace, WoS, geript. I read their posts and my brain just can't comprehend what is happening. It might be because I joined this game late. I did like geript his analysis on the 2 night kills. Anyway, I am also going to bed. I will be posting a lot tomorrow when I am at work :D | ||
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On July 11 2013 17:22 FirmTofu wrote: @Maju Please nuke jampidampi. I will be forced to look at you very closely if you choose Vayne. jampidampi has not even posted in the past 24 hours. He is a perfect vigi shot. I would rather engage in some meaningful conversation with Vayne than just outright vigi him. I don't really understand this post FirmTofu. You have been targeting Vayne the entire game, you even bickered with him to the point that Vayne doesn't want to talk to you, and now you want to target jampi over Vayne? That's kinda strange. Also, nobody is suspecting jampi at all, it's just an inactive kill. Which is never bad but meh... That being said, I became a Vayne fan over night. He had a clean fight with FirmTofu. I don't think that they are both on scumteam. I did like the read that FirmTofu did on Vayne though, that was indeed a contradicting post from Vayne. But I don't understand why FirmTofu is so against Vayne, but then strongarms a guy that is probably going to get lynched into shooting his nuke on Jampi... Then about my lynch target. I don't really have a target yet, I think that if both XigXag (who hasn't posted yet?) and Maju turn out to be town, then [UoN]Sentinel is 100% scum that just decided to yolo his way in this game and shoot 2 people. Kinda obvious but I don't got anything else concrete. I am just going to wait till 2 hours before deadline and then decide between the 2 players with the highest vote count and vote on one of them and give my reasoning. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On July 10 2013 05:46 MajuGarzett wrote: I would also be down for a lynch on VA for the reasons I gave earlier as well austin's case. I don't suspect FirmToufu so that's not a problem for me. FirmTofu may have been against DI's lynch but that lynch did move pretty fast so I think that action is caution rather than trying to save his scum buddy. FT has also done a good amount of analysis. Rayn asked me for some specific reads so here: WoS nuke redirect I don't find scummy because if he was scum the only reason for a redirect would be to gain credit which could only be done by redirecting the nuke to scum.Also, I really doubt that he would save a scum buddy like that as if one of them dies the other is sure to be caught. WoS was also accepted that Rayn's nuke claim didn't make sense for scum quite early. I think if WoS was scum he would have tried to pressure Rayn a bit more. So WoS is probably town. MZ is town, I don't have any evidence to the contrary and neither does anyone else I've seen. I still suspect Onegu. Looking at his filter the only read he's given is repeating Xata is 100% town. He's said this 3 times so far and uses it as an excuse to sheep. Rayn's claim doesn't make sense for scum so I don't suspect him. Best lynch targets are VA, Onegu, and DI. | ||
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On July 11 2013 20:18 xigxag wrote: Great, by the time I finally read the whole thread I've already been nuked. I was so excited to hunt scum and finally play the game. Screw you guys I'm leaving and I'm taking my ball, in this case my brain, with me. lol. Should have read the important posts before reading the thread then. | ||
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On July 11 2013 21:07 jampidampi wrote: And what going on with terrible nuker? Maju has never even mentioned me before others mention he could nuke me. Just look at this post: He's just looking to nuke a target that town won't give him flack for, not actually looking for the best target. He has had scumread on VA since he ever mentioned anything about his reads, yet instead of nuking his scumread he nukes me. It is him and FirmToufu. I don't get it as well. I made a post about it earlier. But in all fairness, you were afk for a long time. | ||
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So my scum vote would be FirmTofu. My inactive vote goes out to Stutters and Z-bosoN if he doesn’t deliver. But I am willing to vote for MajuGarzett if it is him vs VayneAuthority, because VayneAuthority seems upright. I don’t understand why people focus him so much. Maju is just pretty afkish and is now shooting his nuke to please Town, too bad nobody really discussed his target. But yeah, who is going to save a 48 hours afk guy? I am going to travel home and see if people contest my logic, if not I am just going to do like I planned 2 hours before deadline. | ||
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On July 11 2013 23:54 Oatsmaster wrote: Explain Koshi. COME ON. I don't know what I got to explain because I think I explained myself pretty well. FirmTofu is maybe not 100% scum, but he is without doubt disruptive and likes to take matters into his own hands. While he seems to be always wrong... So I dislike him the most in this game. And for my lynch, it comes down to this: I like Vayne better than MG. If 1 deserves to die out of those 2 it is MG. | ||
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On July 12 2013 00:15 CaucasianAsian wrote: my phone died... just got home, kind of drunk. but bear with me (bare with me? i don't know english apparently). But I get the feeling that Ace, Oats, Xatalos (sorry if I mispelled your name), WaveofShadow, and FirmTofu. No offense to Koshi but you just joined in, so I can't really tell... Also, why is no one talking about the previous nights murders? Shouldn't that be a way to step into the minds of the scum and figure out why they lynched ryan? I feel like it was a stupid move, as he was already under a ton of heat... Maybe he was onto something? It seems absurd to murder someone who is under a lot of a fire... the same way why it was stupid for whoever it was to nuke Ace, when he had a lot of heat by people thinking he was scummy? Or was that just xalatos? Either way, why is no one talking about this? Don't forget to vote before you fall asleep on the toilet k? You got 1 warning already. Also, I am not offended that you dont get feelings about me when you are drunk. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On July 08 2013 16:40 FirmTofu wrote: Sorry I took so long. I got burned out from reading the thread and having to update my reads based on incoming information so I took a long break from the thread. I've completed nearly all my player profiles and am ready to give geript my top three scumreads. VayneAuthority: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=17#329 Unjustified reason to vote someone. It could be a poke, but it remains unclear. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=25#495 Advocates lynching for information. Acknowledges that he could flip town. A town would push their lynch under the assumption that they were scum. Starting to focus on what will happen post-flip indicating that he doesn't want to take the heat on a town flip. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=28#554 Highlighting play that strikes him as PR. Why would town do this? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=29#568 Accuses Caucasian, who seems like an easy target considering he only has one post and was drunk. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=34#669 Adds Dandel to the list of lynch targets. WaveOfShadow: His fluff extends a bit too far into the day. Most of his posts are non-contributing/restating what has already been said. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=19#375 Refers to "town players" as an entity that he is not a part of. Very scummy. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=20#383 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=20#392 Voices his opinion of Johnny based on a misinterpretation of his post, then waits for someone else to vote him before hopping on the wagon. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=24#464 Defensive post. Why is he so worried about a wagon on him if the people voting him have a bad case against him? He should be pursuing his reads, not wasting time defending himself from a "weak" wagon. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=25#482 Seems to understand scum methodology and could be trying to WIFOM us with his play. I haven't read many of his newer posts, so I will update my read of him as I continue reading. Nirvana.Gabo: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=29#566 Idiotic reason to vote Onegu. Looking for reasons to vote, instead of looking for actual scumslips. Could be a scumbuddy defense of a teammate in Chez. We will need to see the flip to know for sure. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=29#576 Mistaking newbieness for scum play. Seems to be a deliberate ploy to accuse Onegu of something that isn't there. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=31#619 Has a town read on Ace. Convenient. Reiterating what many others have already stated. I would like to pursue either a Vayne or Nirvana lynch, but would be willing to defer to a lynch of WoS. First, I need to read further into the thread to see whether he has redeemed himself or not. For now, Vote ##: VayneAuthority + Show Spoiler + On July 08 2013 17:38 FirmTofu wrote: Holy banana-butthole, did anyone catch this? Why would Vayne... 1) ...automatically believe Chez when Chez explains what his role is. 2) ...confirm Chez as a town-read because Chez explained his role mechanics. 3) ...consider an "interesting mechanic" to be "content" We need to lynch this guy ASAP. + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + On July 09 2013 05:36 FirmTofu wrote: I just voted ON because the case against him is far better than the one against Dandel and unfortunately, no one is looking at VA seriously. + Show Spoiler + On July 09 2013 06:42 FirmTofu wrote: I'd rather stick to my guns this time around. Let's have a discussion and maybe you can convince me in the next 20 minutes. + Show Spoiler + On July 10 2013 07:44 FirmTofu wrote: Alright, I'm back and rearing to post. My top 3 scum reads are: jampidampi Ace VayneAuthority Gonna make a post explaining why in just a bit. Between above and below post he makes a case vs jumpi. + Show Spoiler + On July 10 2013 09:58 FirmTofu wrote: Ace and Vayne. I've already talked in length about VA, so I won't bore you again. As for Ace, I might make a post on him somewhere down the line, but for now, I would like to focus on jampidampi whom I consider to be the best lynch target today. + Show Spoiler + On July 11 2013 12:25 FirmTofu wrote: Before I get back to reading the thread, I would like to address this scummy post. I have numbered and bolded the relevant statements so it is easier for you to see. (1) He claims I am null to him. (2) He says that I somehow look bad if maju flips scum, implying that his death would tell something about me. (3) In his explanation of why, he fails to speak about anything that relates Maju to me and says I am scummy based on points that should have been addressed in (1) itself. He effectively contradicted himself within his own post while simultaneously failing to justify why I would appear scummy if maju flips scum. Thank you Vayne, for further justifying my scum read on you. Then when he gets to chance to actually kill VA, he says to MG that if MG nukes VA, MG is suspicious and should be looked at. Which means "I am going to add another vote to your name next lynch". I explain it in the post below. + Show Spoiler + On July 11 2013 18:08 Koshi wrote: I don't really understand this post FirmTofu. You have been targeting Vayne the entire game, you even bickered with him to the point that Vayne doesn't want to talk to you, and now you want to target jampi over Vayne? That's kinda strange. Also, nobody is suspecting jampi at all, it's just an inactive kill. Which is never bad but meh... That being said, I became a Vayne fan over night. He had a clean fight with FirmTofu. I don't think that they are both on scumteam. I did like the read that FirmTofu did on Vayne though, that was indeed a contradicting post from Vayne. But I don't understand why FirmTofu is so against Vayne, but then strongarms a guy that is probably going to get lynched into shooting his nuke on Jampi... Then about my lynch target. I don't really have a target yet, I think that if both XigXag (who hasn't posted yet?) and Maju turn out to be town, then [UoN]Sentinel is 100% scum that just decided to yolo his way in this game and shoot 2 people. Kinda obvious but I don't got anything else concrete. I am just going to wait till 2 hours before deadline and then decide between the 2 players with the highest vote count and vote on one of them and give my reasoning. I don't understand how you can feel so strongly about somebody, and then when you can kill him off, you say "oh let's take the guy that hasn't posted in 48 hours." This guy also roleclaimed now and seems to be town. So... But I am willing to wait on FirmTofu till the nuke falls. I am just putting my ideas out there for the moment. | ||
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On July 12 2013 02:52 VayneAuthority wrote: yo there is clearly not 4 immune ones in this game that are all town sided, if by some chance I actually get lynched today you have an easy lynch pool for tomorrow. No fucking way in hell are there 4 of them, and there are very scummy people in that pool You won't get lynched today. That's close to impossible. | ||
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Did the host make an English mistake by saying a Immune target? Xatalos, you claim to also be immune. Is it spelled correctly in your role pm? On July 11 2013 20:33 jampidampi wrote: Why the fuck was I nuked? Just for not being here? Have yet to read the thread, but I'm not sure if catching up at this point is even worth it. Might as well claim right now. You are a Immune One! You have no special powers other than that Radiation nukes do not harm you, but do infect you. Each night, you may choose to visit a player. If you are infected with radiation, it will spread to them. You will not be informed if you are infected. Once infected, your infection will last the entire game. So you better hope that Maju's nuke was a radiation nuke. | ||
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You guys should check out the TL+ mafia game one day. It was so bad compared to this one. I wanted to change my vote to jampi but now that he posted I am reluctant to do so. At least MajuG gave us a nuke to play with when he left. I thought jampi was just going to leave butthurt like XigXag. But now I don't know again -_-* | ||
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