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ObviousOne
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On June 21 2013 13:49 Hapahauli wrote: In all seriousness, I do want to policy lynch Oats. Every game I've played with him, he's contributed to a toxic town atmosphere by tunneling obv-townies beyond the point of reason. I'm all for killing him until I find an actual scum-read. I'm getting town vibes from Oats. He's not begging to be sheeped yet, which from my recent game on OMGUS was the trigger that made me think about his play and ended up with me getting a scum read on him day 1. He did that in Carnival, too, (later in the game) where he was town, but he ended up flipping cop. What I think this means about him is that when he has more information (be it cop or scum), he is much more confident in his pushes even if they are nonsensical. I'm not getting that confidence vibe from Oats here. What you said is mostly correct, however. He is a good policy lynch if it comes down to one. He mucks up the thread with his random interjections. His tunnels can be beyond paranoid. I don't see a reason to think he's mafia. As far as the other stuff in the thread is concerned, the only thing nobody has touched on yet is that Coag popped in just to vote for Marv and then went radio silent. Very back-seat driver. I can't remember any games I've played with him so I want to take a quick look at his older games for the sake of establishing a baseline of expectations. Coag, what do you think about Oats and my thoughts regarding him? Are you going to hit-and-run style post all game? | ||
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On June 21 2013 14:02 Oatsmaster wrote: #unvote Dont hipster vote cora. DP and hapa are scum. Please don't be a kushmasta | ||
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Cora was so blatant about his icebreaker he even "crumbed it" in his modified song lyrics. If you took his push on Marv seriously you should look at the things that it accomplished: 1. He got conversation in the thread started. 2. He got a vote out of Coag that, while weak in the explanation department, gave us information about Coag. 3. He drew you out into a tunnel that has divulged a lot of information about you 4. Set the stage for a confrontational and questioning town atmosphere 5. Established his towniness all within like 6 pages of the game. | ||
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On June 21 2013 14:18 Coagulation wrote: oats is a good lynch but I rather lynch marv just because i have nothing to go on yet and of all the people in the game marv is the most amusing to watch die. If scum pop up on my radar between now and then things might change but for now im going to get more bang for my vote with a marv lynch. I'm wondering which flavor of Marv is going to show up. In Red Team's Prize we were both town and he had a zero-fucks-given attitude about his own life and it seemed like it took a lot of effort to drag information out of him when he was content to sit in the game as almost a passive observer even when he was under pressure. Thanks for clarifying your position on that. | ||
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On June 21 2013 14:23 Oatsmaster wrote: OO. I was asking why you thought DP and Hapa was town. Haven't finished my first post of coffee. How am I supposed to be better at figuring out DP as town or scum when his scum play is being lauded in the thread as TL Mafia's gift to scum teams? Hapa looks like he may be experimenting with something early game or he's just reaction fishing in which case he's gotten a reaction out of you. They're drawing attention to themselves, that's all I need to know right now a few hours into the game. I'll tell you exactly what I'm thinking about right now because it's win/win to share it, either mafia will continue to do these things or they will post more in the thread by which we can find the inconsistencies. Mafia has very little reason to actively engage in discussion right now, especially if people are all pointing fingers at each other in the event that everyone posting right now is town. They would probably be content to let town tear itself apart and may not even post. People who are not posting by the end of 24 hours (and I don't mean a handful of one-liners and jokes) climb to the top of my kill-with-fire list. If all of town is talking, this list shortens greatly, and corners the scum into this category. Consider early participation to be town points for day 1. This will also effectively take out the town-aligned anti-town elements in the same vein, if townies aren't sharing their thoughts then they are playing for scum and I'd lynch them just the same to make solving the game easier down the line. (link)Did you read my post in Smurf Mini? | ||
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On June 21 2013 14:48 yamato77 wrote: Sloosh and Sylencia are people to ignore until later in the game. Sloosh is obvious as town and absolutely lurk-fucking-tastic as mafia. No need to concern myself when time will tell with him. Sylencia might be a coinflip either way, to be honest, so I ignore him until he flips or something. OO's townread of Oats is ballsy at that point. I don't expect a scum OO to jump into the game calling someone under fire town. Coag is worth worrying about because I have no idea how he plays, but he's obviously here, reading the thread, just not very active except when mentioned. My townread on Oats is based on what I feel is a gift I have developed through past games. It used to be when I played with Oats I would wait a day before deciding to call him town or scum, delaying reading his filter or even really paying much attention to him because, well, 'madness'. Then we ended up in a game together on OMGUS and I immediately had a scum read on him (that turned out 100% correct) and so far up to that point he had exhibited none of that swagger or confidence I got out of his posting style and choice of words there. The funny thing is that I was the ONLY person who was able to do that and while I was NOT able to describe it in a way that would let people see my side of things and help me lynch him, I don't get any of the same vibes here that I did there. On June 21 2013 15:20 DarthPunk wrote: I just don't get how someone could spend a whole paragraph explaining how someone is town and then in the very next sentence be willing to policy lynch that same person. That being said, apparently saying I would policy lynch a madman who has a history of shitting up threads and misdirecting town is scummy? Hokay. If you say so. Unless you weren't calling it scummy and asking for a response, in which case where is the question? For your convenience I have already answered it at the start of this paragraph. | ||
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On June 21 2013 15:41 DarthPunk wrote: They are both wait and see people like every game. GK has the ability to completely stomp a scum team, but takes a long while to get going and has recently tended to get bogged down in defending himself rather than catching scum. Nothing really alignment indicative either way at this point to be honest. But when GK get's rolling it should be pretty clear if he is town or not. Scum GK just never gets rolling. Hapa is pretty useless as scum and his cases aren't as good as they are as town. Fairly obvious, he hasn't done anything I have really loved yet. But I am confident he will either be really obv town or be fairly obvious scum later. Hapa is leaning town though because he was upset people didn't ask him about his read on you. That sort of shit screams townie to me. At the moment obvious is like totally ignoring me calling him scummy. Which is weird. Like he flamed me hard in our last game. And his first post where he was willing to policy lynch his town read is scummy as shit. Yamato needs to do something that isn't backflipping off his scum reads that were never scum reads or whatever the fuck he was doing. I know yamato can be valuable as town. So if he isn;' I will push for his lynch. Wow. That's a lot of wait and see. As far as flaming you, I wasn't even here, give it some time. You'll just have to wait and see. LOL ZING | ||
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On June 21 2013 15:52 cDgCorazon wrote: Well there needs to be an actual reason for the change of heart. If you don't have anything useful to say, why say all of this stupid shit? You're just shitting up the thread if that is the case. This guy gets it. | ||
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On June 23 2013 00:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also OO, gimme at least 12 scumreads with reasoning asap. I'm starting to have an urge to lynch you because you are not saying shit. DAYUM SON. EVERYONE SCUM? GG | ||
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On June 23 2013 00:58 marvellosity wrote: OO stop posting random-ass comments from 1.5 days ago, it's astonishingly unhelpful. Do you honestly think those things were unhelpful in any way, or are you just being petulant because you expect more of me? So you don't want to know what I'm thinking? Do you really think I'm gonna quote and respond to something on every page of the game as I catch up? Those are things that happened NOT LONG AFTER I WAS GONE and are in some way pertinent to me (something that looks like a case but doesn't call me scum, and something I would consider a case on DP and grounds to call him scum). So you can like, deal with it 'cause it's already done. No taksie-backsies. | ||
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On June 23 2013 01:35 Oatsmaster wrote: cause he doesnt want to derail lynch train on OO which you guys successfully did. Well done. Notice OO is gone. I just got told to stop posting while catching up, you want me to be posting while I catch up, which is it? | ||
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ShiaoPi - single-minded purpose of getting under GK's skin. The basis for this seems to be GK's attack on Oats for his playstyle. Is there some kind of back story to this antagonism that I'm not aware of? I don't see any other scum reads he wants to pursue. Just GK and I don't really agree that GK calling Oats scummy for being Oats is scummy, just wrong. Reminds me of how I felt in LXI when Shiao was scum (where he was playing from behind, so to speak) and didn't open the scope of his scum reads to more than a couple of people at a time (25 player game) Ange777 - has been asking a ton of questions but I don't see a consistent track of thought or an angle at finding scum, just talking about lurkers and some commentary. Not pushing for anything. I expect a great deal more from her but I'm willing to extend the BOTD today given I want to lynch the other two first. ##Vote DarthPunk | ||
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On June 23 2013 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats i'm going to wait for OO/yamato/Hapa to answer me. I think Hapa lynch is not going to happen as people are retarded and can't see why he is scum. I don't know who i am going to vote for (yamato/OO), depends on if they come back and if they do, what are their answers. I don't see a question. | ||
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On June 23 2013 02:39 Coagulation wrote: lawl @ secret vote. IF IN DOUBT LYNCH MARV I SAY. I have no doubt. Help me lynch DP. Let's fucking get this done properly. | ||
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On June 23 2013 02:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't want to lynch OO. Still not seeing a question. Did you not have one? When you said you were waiting for a response, did you mean you were waiting for me to come back / post? | ||
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On June 23 2013 02:46 yamato77 wrote: Ask me a legitimate question and I'll answer you. If you think Sloosh is scum, give a reason rather than having me argue against a phantom idea. Without fail, I have always thought sloosh is scum every game because of his activity. I'm trying to not hold that against him this time and gauge him on the way he does participate. So far he's identified a town read in Marv, is latching on and is going to look into the same things, and has stated intent to improve his performance. He got more done in a handful of posts while he was here than I did for the entire first half of the cycle. If anyone is unwilling to lynch me there should be no reason they want to lynch sloosh, either. | ||
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On June 23 2013 02:53 yamato77 wrote: So me pointing at DP early in the game when everyone thought he was town is only attacking people who are in the spotlight? What about questioning Hapa when most people had the impression, at that time, that he was town? You argument holds no water. Anything I did pregame was in jest. Did Coag seriously pregame meta-game you? LOL coagplz | ||
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On June 23 2013 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Explain to me how Sloosh is making any sense? Yamato got it for me | ||
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