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On May 28 2013 06:42 Stutters695 wrote: /in ##shoot Vivax | ||
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I JUST DELETED MY MASSIVE POST FUCK MY LIFE | ||
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First of all, I have three exams in the upcoming weeks, the 10th my oral as addendum to my written exam of today, two other written ones with two other orals, then another written one the 26th without oral. This is a disclaimer for everyone who will try to judge me on my activity. I should be reading books, not mafia, and I will give my best with the time I have. Judge me on the content of my posts. If anyone tries to dig up some meta shit or activity argument to push my lynch, they will be claiming scum in the thread, and I will hit them so hard that they will regret herping so hard that they derped. Now, off to le notions I have to rewrite, I'm slightly drunk sorry. @ Stutters Your case against prplhz is that you think he's wrong about what he says in his case, and that he plays differently from his past games. Nothing in what you say proves a scum mentality. You prove he's wrong about Zeph with more meta about Zeph. All your arguments seem to be meta, can you at least find me one that isn't? | ||
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On June 04 2013 10:00 s0Lstice wrote: Are you turning a new leaf stutters?  Answer honestly, is this the first time you've proposed a lurker lynch? On June 04 2013 10:18 Stutters695 wrote: Out of curiosity s0l what were you hoping to learn from that question? Not exactly a soup quotation. On June 04 2013 10:23 s0Lstice wrote: Nothing really. Just a lil flight of fancy/fun. Of substance though, I have an early, tentative townread on you (Stutters) and layabout. Stutters for general thread presence/comfort/activity and layabout for picking on probably the scummiest post that has been made so far. Thoughts? 1 )S0lstice giving out townreads here to the guy questioning him about his own question strikes me as defensive. He says layabout picked on the scummiest post so far. He asks about thoughts on his townreads, and also asks it to his townreads, I presume, since he is telling stutters that he has a townread on him. 2 ) What's the scummiest post? A jokey post by Jay where he "pokes Vayne with a stick" after he said he would post nothing. Layabout goes as far as to call it pressure, s0lstice piggybacks on it to call it a case. The other part of it is Jay referring to himself as lynch bait and complaining about unknown players. Too bad for s0lstice, Jay is indeed the biggest lynch bait I have probably seen on this forum. Hence, I have two questions for you, s0lstice: 1) Why do you ask people about thoughts on townreads, and what pushed you to give them out in that situation? I can understand giving out townreads when you want to lynch someone over somebody else, and one of them is town in your opinion as opposed to your scumread, but I don't see the purpose in that situation, other than making yourself look like contributing after someone pointed out your question being kind of pointless. 2) Did you ever play with Jay? I might understand you growing suspicious of his defensive posting if that's not the case. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ @ Sentinel So far I've almost only seen setup talk and an unexplained vote from you. Could you give me a more substantial, as in read-related impression of players? | ||
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While I agree that meta is overrated, this clearly shows prplhz bloating up an issue. The rest of your arguments revolve around the meta he tries to use against Zephir, one game is mexican standoff so it's not a game of mafia, it's a Caller game. I want to see what he has to say to it before jumping to conclusions though. Your turn now, tell me what you think of the points I brought up about s0lstice, and the points he brought up about Jay. | ||
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On June 05 2013 05:55 jaybrundage wrote: Maybe you missed the post where i said to go look at previous games. I said that im often lynch bait because its true. As town i often get mislynched. I prefer for people to know this and take at look at my play rather then straight up die as town for my play. Me poking someone with a stick is not pressure. The fact that you have that in your case shows how weak it is. Besides the fact that your just piggy backing of someone elses post. The fact that you think a joke post is the scummiest post as of yet just shows your lack of a real case. #Vote S0lstice Do you think that his attack on you alone, in that way, warrants him being scum?Did you guys ever play together? I find your vote to be kinda rushed. What's your opinion on stutters case against prplhz? | ||
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On June 05 2013 06:51 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: WoS seems like someone suitable for sheeping ##Unvote ##Vote: WaveofShadow What of the points against him makes your wool grow? I would like to know the reasons for finding him scummy from your own mouth. | ||
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On June 05 2013 07:01 Stutters695 wrote: Well I'm not really sure what else I can do to convince you on prpl if everyone has just decided meta is bad. He's demonstrably misconstrued posts for his only real contribution to the thread in addition to the meta but once he keeps this up I'm sure you'll all come around so whatever. I don't agree with your conclusion Vivax. Your points in isolation of the thread would be very scummy but I agree with his points on Jay. I also haven't played with Jay so if this is his MO then I'll re-evaluate but I understand your conclusion, but given his other posting and his case on Jay I don't think he's a d1 lynch. What I think of meta + Show Spoiler + You can build perfectly valid cases on people without using meta, I'm confident in that. If anything, experienced scum can talk hours about meta and pull all sorts of arguments out of their ass when it suits them. Someone uses an argument for someone being scum, they pull out a game where he did the x scummy thing as town. But they will never pull out a game where that someone did the same as scum, to make an example. They will always remember the stuff that best fits their current purposes, be it a tunnelly townie or scum. Additionally, there are schedule differences, learning effects, and the simple fact that every game is unique. The thing you can somewhat meta is probably player skill, the times he gets lynched as what alignment, times he guesses scum right etc, but it's a bold guess. If you want to use meta go ahead, but expect me to look at it queerly and to be unlikely to convince me on someone. I don't agree with your conclusion Vivax. Your points in isolation of the thread would be very scummy but I agree with his points on Jay. I also haven't played with Jay so if this is his MO then I'll re-evaluate but I understand your conclusion, but given his other posting and his case on Jay I don't think he's a d1 lynch. What points do you mean would be very scummy. Who is "his" (did you mean me or s0lstice). Who is not a D1 lynch, s0lstice or jay? I have some trouble understanding what you mean here. | ||
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On June 05 2013 11:08 WaveofShadow wrote: The only person I find particularly scummy atm is jaybrundage however I have been informed that he is 'lynchbait' and as such we should just give him a free pass. Who am I to argue with better players such as Vivax? You are misrepresenting what I said. No one gets a free pass for anything, lynch bait or not. If you think jay is scum, present your arguments. You said earlier in very aggressive tone, that everyone is free to make a case whenever they want, why do you think my opinion on jay would be a reason for you to hold your own arguments back now? What I said was: s0lstice argued for jay being scum cause he found him suspicious for saying that he's lynch bait. I rebutted that it's true. @ Sentinel You posted this: Basically he's saying that by accusing him it stirs up discussion. But why? If attention is on him, as town it's crappy play because it distracts others from finding scum, and as scum he can WIFOM his way to finding a different lynch target. I don't think perfectly good townplay involves painting yourself red to see who comes out of the woodwork. This is where Zeph comes in to push WoS's intentions and WoS retorts that it's scummy to lynch him after he's explained his motivations. I find his motivations scummy however, hence I want to lynch him. You say WoS' motivations are scummy, but I see you saying that you don't think perfectly good townplay involves etc. That's no explanation of his motivations, that's what you think of his play. Even if it's bad, what's the scum motivation behind it that you see? Can you comment on the points SlOosh raised in his case against you? | ||
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On June 05 2013 23:00 Oatsmaster wrote: Vivax, thoughts on Ace? He has to make clear if and why he intends to stay on the WoS wagon after his initial vote which seems like a pressure vote. Other than that, he discussed strategies related to the setup. Not enough to go to make a read on him. | ||
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On June 06 2013 01:02 mkfuba07 wrote: Sorry, passed out soon after my post. There's been lots of unexpected stuff popping up, distracting me from the game. The most concerning one is taken care of, so I'll be less distracted. If you'd insisted on an answer, I probably would have said vayne, since he's the one that's been on my mind the most, and I saw him as having the most potential to be scum, despite not having done anything I would call overtly scummy. Can you word the reasons you have for thinking Vayne could be scum? | ||
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If you're so sure about WoS being scum, what are you trying to achieve by claiming you want to kill ace and writing that bit about layabout? | ||
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On June 06 2013 01:57 layabout wrote: Vivax i reckon at least one of the people on the WoS wagon is scum. What do you think? I agree, and after that last post it's likely to be Rayn. ##Vote Raynpeelikoneet All aboard the wagon of justice | ||
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On June 06 2013 02:06 VayneAuthority wrote: Don't like this. ##vote:WaveofShadow ? | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote Vayne | ||
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Why do you think is fuba scum? | ||
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Also if anyone has not played with me I would suggest reading a previous game or two I play rather..... unorthodox (I occasionally be hardcore lynchbait D
