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Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 14 2013 03:10 GMT
#63
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Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 16 2013 18:11 GMT
#102
/confirm
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 17 2013 17:55 GMT
#183
On May 18 2013 02:43 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 02:41 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 18 2013 02:38 iamperfection wrote:
you see to have some self esteem issues dp.

Now would you be more likely to bring them up if you were town or scum. Overall i would say you would be more likely to bring them up as scum. Obviously not super alignment indicative but.......

if you are town dont be a little bitch


Lol what?

you basically said what you do doesn't matter and everyone will sheep marv. ( Which isnt true) Regardless you little woe to yourself is somewhat scummy in my view. Why would a townie come in with an attitude that what they say doesn't matter?


I read this more as a sarcastic and less of a serious self deprecating comment. Ultimately it's just spam which isn't helpful.
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 17 2013 18:05 GMT
#192
On May 18 2013 03:01 s0Lstice wrote:
the fact that i've only ever played town is a pretty important piece of information to share for people who don't know me/haven't played with me.

getting my share on, don't hate


As someone who has never played with you, I don't see how this kind of information would help me. You are implying that anyone who looks at your past games will see a pattern as to how you play as town, which will miraculously match how you are playing in this current game that you are claiming town. You could easily be scum masking as town and trying to post similarly to how you did in the past. Ultimately this information, at least for me, will not be that useful to use.
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 17 2013 18:24 GMT
#206
On May 18 2013 03:21 s0Lstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 03:16 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:01 s0Lstice wrote:
the fact that i've only ever played town is a pretty important piece of information to share for people who don't know me/haven't played with me.

getting my share on, don't hate


Maybe I'm reading to much into this but I'm wondering why you want people to focus on your meta?

Let's say I tell you this is like my 13th game without rolling scum. What does that tell you about my play this game that you'd consider important at all right now?


it's pretty simple dude....I just updated it last night so it's a brand new convenience for those who want to use it. that's all.



You did not post it merely for people's convenience, you posted to specifically point out that you were always town.

On May 18 2013 03:01 s0Lstice wrote:
the fact that i've only ever played town is a pretty important piece of information to share for people who don't know me/haven't played with me.

Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 17 2013 20:57 GMT
#273
On May 18 2013 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I want to lynch the spicydude for his useless posts. I'm also on phone so i'm not gonna vote yet as changing page/thread is a pain in the ass. Consider my vote there atm.

yamato has to be town.


What do you find useless? Pointing out that s0Lstice's posting about his previous games being town unhelpful? Interesting that you are focusing on me when others are posting blatant spam. I look forward to hearing your absurd reasoning.
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 17 2013 21:18 GMT
#290
On May 18 2013 06:13 goodkarma wrote:
It's worth noting that Vayne proposed a no lynch as town in his last newbie game that just finished up. He also hesitated to give reads that game too... I don't feel he's a good lynch right now since his play (though bad) is consistent with what I've seen him do as town before.


As someone who was in the last newbie game, Vayne is playing quite similar. D1 he prodded a little and got a good number of people pissed at him then D2 he went quiet. He had a some suspicions on people but held back for the most part on revealing them. I did not like his play style that game as I felt the more information we had out, the better.
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 17 2013 21:32 GMT
#302
On May 18 2013 06:19 marvellosity wrote:
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On May 18 2013 06:18 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On May 18 2013 06:13 goodkarma wrote:
It's worth noting that Vayne proposed a no lynch as town in his last newbie game that just finished up. He also hesitated to give reads that game too... I don't feel he's a good lynch right now since his play (though bad) is consistent with what I've seen him do as town before.


As someone who was in the last newbie game, Vayne is playing quite similar. D1 he prodded a little and got a good number of people pissed at him then D2 he went quiet. He had a some suspicions on people but held back for the most part on revealing them. I did not like his play style that game as I felt the more information we had out, the better.


Slightly sideways question - do you know anything of me? Whether the answer is yes or no, what do you make of my posting so far?


Don't know anything about you. Your postings give me mixed feelings. On one hand you claim early that you wont be able to post much over the next few days which feels scummy. Though you are clearly active atm asking a good number of questions. Still figuring out the banter back and forth between you and bn. You seem to like to go fishing D1 by just asking a ton of questions without really giving out your opinion, though it is early D1. So I would say right now I have a null read.
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 17 2013 21:37 GMT
#308
On May 18 2013 06:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
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On May 18 2013 06:18 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On May 18 2013 06:13 goodkarma wrote:
It's worth noting that Vayne proposed a no lynch as town in his last newbie game that just finished up. He also hesitated to give reads that game too... I don't feel he's a good lynch right now since his play (though bad) is consistent with what I've seen him do as town before.


As someone who was in the last newbie game, Vayne is playing quite similar. D1 he prodded a little and got a good number of people pissed at him then D2 he went quiet. He had a some suspicions on people but held back for the most part on revealing them. I did not like his play style that game as I felt the more information we had out, the better.


remember that I went with your read over my own and we got fucked you guys can call my playstyle shitty but I find things that others do not in the end.


This goes with my point, you hide your analysis from the group for far too long I think. Sharing the information earlier could have convinced me to go along with it.
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 17 2013 23:25 GMT
#425
@iamperfection, what are your thoughts on some of the people in the thread. you filter mostly reads one liner questions back at people and I am curious as to your opinions.
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 17 2013 23:33 GMT
#437
On May 18 2013 08:26 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 08:25 Spicydinosaur wrote:
@iamperfection, what are your thoughts on some of the people in the thread. you filter mostly reads one liner questions back at people and I am curious as to your opinions.

i have given some opinions you must not have been reading that closely.


you gave a small thought about sputnik because of his early list and thats about it.
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 18 2013 00:52 GMT
#497
On May 18 2013 09:05 iamperfection wrote:
spicy you seem to have an interest in getting reads from me for whatever reason but you avoided the shitfest?

why?


you are one of the more active players and one of the first i filtered. As for the shitfests, I gave my 2 cents on the vayne issue. I knew how he played from our previous game and I saw no reason to jump on the band wagon. As for the marvellosity/ Dandel Ion cluster fuck, I felt it was best I stay clear of it. It turned into some kind of argument of meta gaming that I was unfamiliar with. A lot of guys in here have played dozens of games together and can do the meta argument. Dandel started off by just spewing spam but then it seemed he was doing it for a reason. Then the whole thread seemed to be jumping from one person to another. No reason to jump into a shitfest if I have nothing to add, would be just spam.
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 18 2013 01:10 GMT
#501
On May 18 2013 09:55 Dandel Ion wrote:

why did you feel that?


The two of you altered between insults and analyzing play from previous games. I didn't know the meta history between the two so I had nothing to say. I don't find much use for meta that I'm not familiar with so I tend to see it as not important in analysis. I've only had a game with jarjar and vayne so my use of meta is limited. I've already talked about vayne and jarjar hasnt posted enough in this game to really warrant a strong look.
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 18 2013 14:23 GMT
#666
On May 18 2013 21:17 marvellosity wrote:
I want rayn and Spicy to pipe up as well.


s0Lstice's filter comes up very scummy for me. He started off by posting about his meta and pointing out that he was never scum.

On May 18 2013 02:52 s0Lstice wrote:
hey hi

I recognize a lot of people in this game, but I haven't played with all of you. I just recently updated my profile with my past games so go peruse them if you want.

I've never rolled scum, and my streak continues for this game. So...sup town!


I get them some people like to use a lot of meta to play but the fact that he has always been town is irrelevant as every new game could be the first time you get scum.

He also throws some spam in a number of his posts like this:

On May 18 2013 04:36 s0Lstice wrote:
/trustfall catch me WoS

soo your question was: s0l can you talk about yourself? yea I can do that.

I tend to be a fan of meta. I don't use it all the time...I use it in a manner similar to how BH was describing. I have a shitty win record, though I do get NKed early a fair amount. I have a virgin, unlynched neck. I'm usually pretty active. I like weird set-ups just as much as I like a good normal mini. I like ice cream, electric guitars, and words that sound like what they mean.



I've noticed that there is a lot of spam in many guy's post so this might not be such a big deal. The thing that really bugs me is this post:

On May 18 2013 03:40 s0Lstice wrote:


Yup, both things are there. I said I'm always town because, like I said, some folks may find it helpful to know. On a personal note, I happen to think it's hilarious that I can't seem to ever draw scum.

That's related to Stutters question that I missed. If you have never played scum before, chances are your first time isn't going to be so graceful. It's just one more piece of the puzzle; it helps me weight any nervousness/silence/inconsistency that I see.


He keeps pushing this reliance on meta and I find it extremely scummy. He firsts points out that he has never rolled scum, then says that if you roll scum for the first time, you are going to have a bad time. His posts can be summed up in a nice simple sentence: I have never rolled scum and if I did I would be playing so much shittier that it would be obvious.

His later posts seem to then abandon mention of meta and actually really focus on reading other players. He didn't jump on the vayne bandwagon like a lot of others did. I did like his read on goodkarma and did a good job of calling him out on his back and forth thoughts of jarjar.

As of now I'd say he's not scum. I really dislike his meta play style but his subsequent posts have gotten better.


Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 18 2013 15:15 GMT
#687
On May 19 2013 00:01 DarthPunk wrote:
And explain your town read on grush while your at it. Because, Whilst my meta on grush may not be enough to lynch him it sure as fuck isn't good enough for a town read or calling him a mislynch.


As someone who hasn't played with grush before, his filter looks terrible. The whole starsenses meta argument doesn't seem helpful at all. The majority of his posts are just complete spam aside from his voting on vayne. Overall even if he is town, he's not helping.
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 18 2013 15:23 GMT
#691
On May 19 2013 00:17 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 00:15 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On May 19 2013 00:01 DarthPunk wrote:
And explain your town read on grush while your at it. Because, Whilst my meta on grush may not be enough to lynch him it sure as fuck isn't good enough for a town read or calling him a mislynch.


As someone who hasn't played with grush before, his filter looks terrible. The whole starsenses meta argument doesn't seem helpful at all. The majority of his posts are just complete spam aside from his voting on vayne. Overall even if he is town, he's not helping.


Would you like to lynch him? WTF are you actually saying here?


My point is that from my view his posts are completely pointless and devoid of any true content, yet others are OK with him being town simply based on meta. I want to see him post more quality stuff or I will put my vote on him.
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 18 2013 15:34 GMT
#695
On May 19 2013 00:24 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 00:23 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On May 19 2013 00:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 19 2013 00:15 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On May 19 2013 00:01 DarthPunk wrote:
And explain your town read on grush while your at it. Because, Whilst my meta on grush may not be enough to lynch him it sure as fuck isn't good enough for a town read or calling him a mislynch.


As someone who hasn't played with grush before, his filter looks terrible. The whole starsenses meta argument doesn't seem helpful at all. The majority of his posts are just complete spam aside from his voting on vayne. Overall even if he is town, he's not helping.


Would you like to lynch him? WTF are you actually saying here?


My point is that from my view his posts are completely pointless and devoid of any true content, yet others are OK with him being town simply based on meta. I want to see him post more quality stuff or I will put my vote on him.


So you will vote for him even though everyone else says he is town? Have you read the posts speaking about his meta and his use of STARSENSE as a town claim that has been true for the last~15 games?


Yeah I read the post, and didnt really sway me. His posts in this game haven;t been informative at all which is the criteria I determine if someone is town.
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 18 2013 15:43 GMT
#705
On May 19 2013 00:24 VayneAuthority wrote:
My input from what I have read

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 09:52 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On May 18 2013 09:05 iamperfection wrote:
spicy you seem to have an interest in getting reads from me for whatever reason but you avoided the shitfest?

why?


you are one of the more active players and one of the first i filtered. As for the shitfests, I gave my 2 cents on the vayne issue. I knew how he played from our previous game and I saw no reason to jump on the band wagon. As for the marvellosity/ Dandel Ion cluster fuck, I felt it was best I stay clear of it. It turned into some kind of argument of meta gaming that I was unfamiliar with. A lot of guys in here have played dozens of games together and can do the meta argument. Dandel started off by just spewing spam but then it seemed he was doing it for a reason. Then the whole thread seemed to be jumping from one person to another. No reason to jump into a shitfest if I have nothing to add, would be just spam.


Suspicious. sums up the thread (completely useless) and then says he will just be waiting to see what happens, probably so he can drop a vote on the bandwagon late at night. A pretty mediocre read, so ill just keep an eye on him for now.



My wait and see was about the marv/ dandel spat, not about voting in general. I have yet to jump on any bandwagons and don't plan on to. The bolded part I think you wrote just to see my reaction or to get a rise out of me.
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 18 2013 15:50 GMT
#711
On May 19 2013 00:37 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 00:34 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On May 19 2013 00:24 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 19 2013 00:23 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On May 19 2013 00:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 19 2013 00:15 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On May 19 2013 00:01 DarthPunk wrote:
And explain your town read on grush while your at it. Because, Whilst my meta on grush may not be enough to lynch him it sure as fuck isn't good enough for a town read or calling him a mislynch.


As someone who hasn't played with grush before, his filter looks terrible. The whole starsenses meta argument doesn't seem helpful at all. The majority of his posts are just complete spam aside from his voting on vayne. Overall even if he is town, he's not helping.


Would you like to lynch him? WTF are you actually saying here?


My point is that from my view his posts are completely pointless and devoid of any true content, yet others are OK with him being town simply based on meta. I want to see him post more quality stuff or I will put my vote on him.


So you will vote for him even though everyone else says he is town? Have you read the posts speaking about his meta and his use of STARSENSE as a town claim that has been true for the last~15 games?


Yeah I read the post, and didnt really sway me. His posts in this game haven;t been informative at all which is the criteria I determine if someone is town.


OK. let me put it this way. If someone does something 100 times. And then does it a 101st time. How likely is it that the 101st time is different than the previous 100?


This goes back to the beginning of the game when i gave s0Lstice some shit for posting about his game history being all town. It's the same type of argument. What really helps get scum is to get people's opinions, have people take sides, and see if they defend them. grush hasn't done this and it bothers me.


Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 19 2013 00:26 GMT
#884
I'm reading raynpelikoneet as a shitty town. He claimed that GK was scum and supported it with a number of points in a couple of posts. This may not be the best argument but at least he's supporting his position.

On May 19 2013 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, here is the case, Goodkarma:

- Shitty case on Stutters with backpedalling without explanation.
- Contradicting himself on grush, REALLY BAD! STARSENSEESSSSSS!
- His meta comparsion on Jarjar is false.
- His meta comparsion on me is false.
- His stance on WoS is that Wos plays town "bad" and here he is bad, so he is scum. Bad =/= scum.


On May 19 2013 03:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GK:
- Do you know haw Jarjar plays? Did you explain why he is scum as he does what he does?
- About me. What games about me you have read?
- About grush. You say "So in other words, you will always be town when you say starsenses. And you haven't said starsenses this game. Further, you say you will try to counter you own meta from now on, meaning you weren't starting to as of this game..." Look at your argument. You are basically saying "you didn't claim STARSENSES, YOU ARE SCUM, BUT IF YOU DO, YOU ARE ALSO SCUM".

I don't need to tell you why you are wrong, you need to tell me why you are right. so quotes please. Make sure you quote me from my last (town) game where i said i'm working 12h/7d/week. And call me a lurker then.


However he then goes off the rails with iamperfection after he gives his quick view of the group.

On May 19 2013 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
9. s0Lstice-town for now- Since he dislikes sputnik and gk that seems good to me.

16. raynpelikoneet-null- wants to kill gk and sputnik makes him ok in my book bad activity though


Okay, this guy claimed scum.
##Unvote;
##Vote: iamperfection


ggyo


On May 19 2013 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iamp, yamato, marm; i am involved, i am voting for iamp atm. he is calling one gut town and one guy null for same reasons. that is bullshit imo.

and marv. do not talk about martyring, you are the king of it. end of discussion.



This seems more like a impulse child vote than anything throwing a hissy fit because he feels his play is on a different level. There is a clear difference in the mentality that went into the voting of GK and iamp. Seems very spammy for spammy sake.
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