• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:41
CEST 23:41
KST 06:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202540Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up5LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced55
StarCraft 2
General
TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy Clem Interview: "PvT is a bit insane right now" Serral wins EWC 2025 Would you prefer the game to be balanced around top-tier pro level or average pro level? Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
How do you go up to people? How do the new Battle.net ranks translate? Nobody gona talk about this year crazy qualifiers? Help, I can't log into staredit.net BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread 9/11 Anniversary Possible Al Qaeda Attack on 9/11
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 665 users

Noir Mini Mafia: Chapter 1

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-26 10:23:29
March 26 2013 08:25 GMT
#18
/In

+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
I agree to all the rules and activity requirements in the OP.


On March 26 2013 08:50 Ghor wrote:
/in

I agree to all the rules and activity requirements in the OP.

But phrase no in OP ((( sorry
Smurf?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
March 29 2013 16:52 GMT
#60
I want to start right away ; D
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
March 29 2013 21:23 GMT
#62
So is this starting in 40 minutes or what? Given that the day doesn't have a deadline, I don't think it would be too big of a deal if someone would be afk the very beggining of D1 but obviously that's something up to the host.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
March 31 2013 15:53 GMT
#73
On April 01 2013 00:47 Hapahauli wrote:
It's sunday here :3

Starting tonight @ 07:00 TL Time.
TL time=Korea time I assume?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
March 31 2013 22:05 GMT
#78
Aren't we starting like...now?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
March 31 2013 22:32 GMT
#82
Owell, I'm going to sleep then...
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 01 2013 18:21 GMT
#90
Are we full? I really want to play now : D.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 01 2013 22:06 GMT
#101
Hi everyone!

I want to start things off by saying that this is my first time playing an instant majority lynch. While the first 48 hours obviously aren't instant majority, I still think we can start discuss some policy to get things going.

1.If we are about to kill someone, we should at least give the person 24 hours to be able to put up a solid defense.
2.Throw votes around all you want but if you hammer someone, you and everyone else on that wagon better provide good reasoning for that.

Everyone who fails at these stuff should get policy lynched right away imo.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 01 2013 22:26 GMT
#105
1. Basically 24 hours from the point where a majority of all people feel like lynching someone.
2. Yes, if we are going to kill someone, we might as well wait for them to out their reads and what not. If said person doesn't have the option to do so(for example if we kill someone while they are sleeping) then the person hammering are actually indirectly preventing potential information from us because even if we wouldn't be swayed by said persons potential defense, or areå really, really convinced he is scum, the possibility of us being wrong still exist and his reads will at least give something to work with.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 01 2013 22:36 GMT
#108
On April 02 2013 07:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, but policy-lynching them? That seems a little over-the-top in a 9 player game. Policy-lynching anyone in a 9 player game just seems like a bad idea. It's certainly something to factor in, but not killing someone over. In my experience, townies are more likely to lolhammer than scum are. Scum are generally much more careful in how they vote and if they hammer someone are much more likely to explain why thoroughly.

I don't support your policy.
My problem is this: if we don't establish a HARD policy then we might end up in a really hairy situation where someone hammers a guy in a completely retarded way, and everyone will start defending him using the argument "but scum wouldn't be THAT dumb and suspicious". If everyone simply agrees with the policy then we will avoid stuff like that.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 01 2013 22:46 GMT
#110
On April 02 2013 07:40 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Blah blah blah policy blah blah

Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 07:36 Lazermonkey wrote:
On April 02 2013 07:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, but policy-lynching them? That seems a little over-the-top in a 9 player game. Policy-lynching anyone in a 9 player game just seems like a bad idea. It's certainly something to factor in, but not killing someone over. In my experience, townies are more likely to lolhammer than scum are. Scum are generally much more careful in how they vote and if they hammer someone are much more likely to explain why thoroughly.

I don't support your policy.
My problem is this: if we don't establish a HARD policy then we might end up in a really hairy situation where someone hammers a guy in a completely retarded way, and everyone will start defending him using the argument "but scum wouldn't be THAT dumb and suspicious". If everyone simply agrees with the policy then we will avoid stuff like that.


Policy: Don't go full retard mode if you're town.

Savvy? You'd think this would be common sense by now.
Define retard mode. Isthat hammering someone too fast? Or something else? Do you agree with my points or not?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 01 2013 23:16 GMT
#113
On April 02 2013 08:04 Sylencia wrote:
Hello everyone, I hoped this would start over the Easter weekend but looks like I have to cut some Monster Hunter time for this instead :{

Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 07:06 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hi everyone!

I want to start things off by saying that this is my first time playing an instant majority lynch. While the first 48 hours obviously aren't instant majority, I still think we can start discuss some policy to get things going.

1.If we are about to kill someone, we should at least give the person 24 hours to be able to put up a solid defense.
2.Throw votes around all you want but if you hammer someone, you and everyone else on that wagon better provide good reasoning for that.

Everyone who fails at these stuff should get policy lynched right away imo.


With regards to point 2, I thought that Instant Majority lynch is supposed to shy away from throwing votes around carelessly? Well, that depends on what you mean about throwing votes around..
Your vote means literally nothing untill we hit majority or deadline. I don't see how instant majority would shy away from that.

With that being said, I do think it is a good idea to be voting, even though the person isn't getting lynched in the near future. Doing that makes it easier to follow who you suspect at what time and will help especially later on when players start to get looong filters and what : /.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 01 2013 23:29 GMT
#115
On April 02 2013 07:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 07:46 Lazermonkey wrote:
On April 02 2013 07:40 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Blah blah blah policy blah blah

On April 02 2013 07:36 Lazermonkey wrote:
On April 02 2013 07:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, but policy-lynching them? That seems a little over-the-top in a 9 player game. Policy-lynching anyone in a 9 player game just seems like a bad idea. It's certainly something to factor in, but not killing someone over. In my experience, townies are more likely to lolhammer than scum are. Scum are generally much more careful in how they vote and if they hammer someone are much more likely to explain why thoroughly.

I don't support your policy.
My problem is this: if we don't establish a HARD policy then we might end up in a really hairy situation where someone hammers a guy in a completely retarded way, and everyone will start defending him using the argument "but scum wouldn't be THAT dumb and suspicious". If everyone simply agrees with the policy then we will avoid stuff like that.


Policy: Don't go full retard mode if you're town.

Savvy? You'd think this would be common sense by now.
Define retard mode. Isthat hammering someone too fast? Or something else? Do you agree with my points or not?


Be sensible about your hammer vote and explain it yada yada yada. You're policy lynch proposal is bullshit, because half the thread wouldn't follow through with it. How someone goes about voting and hammering is what should be looked at, not just "lol he emotionally hammered the townzorz must be scum"

Listen to the Mafia scumcast (Hapa had a bunch of stuff to say about British II in it pertaining to instant majority). Has a bunch of goodies in it.
I never claimed that ignoring normal scum tells is the way to go but w/e.

So you are saying that my policy is bullshit because noone would follow it but I think that is a very bad reasoning. Either you think my policy is bullshit because the reasoning is bullshit or you think the policy is good but that it will be hard for everyone to follow it and therefore quite useless policy ( or you simply agree with it but that doesn't seem to be the case ^^).

I do think it is a useless policy if half of the players in the game simply disagrees with it. But in theory, if we could guarantee that everyone would follow the policy, would you agree with the points I made?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 02 2013 13:15 GMT
#190
Howdy folks!

@Axle: I take L-1 as one vote from lynch, am I correct?

Regarding risk: I'm not confident in voting him at the moment. While I agree that the "kenpachi-incident" makes him look kinda bad, he defended himself in a way I'm not sure scum would. I'd say that this could just as well be a strange town play rather than scum and it really comes down to WIFOM to figure out which one it is.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 02 2013 13:32 GMT
#194
On April 02 2013 22:27 AxleGreaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 22:15 Lazermonkey wrote:
Howdy folks!

@Axle: I take L-1 as one vote from lynch, am I correct?

Regarding risk: I'm not confident in voting him at the moment. While I agree that the "kenpachi-incident" makes him look kinda bad, he defended himself in a way I'm not sure scum would. I'd say that this could just as well be a strange town play rather than scum and it really comes down to WIFOM to figure out which one it is.


+ Show Spoiler +
TBMK: in general use, L-1 = Lynch -1 = 1 more vote to Lynch. We are currently at L-2.


So if you are "not confident in voting him at the moment.".... what do ?
I'd actually not talk about my (potential)scum read just yet. I want a certain interaction to be happening first. Most probebly, that will occour later today.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 02 2013 13:42 GMT
#195
Btw risk, your main argument against Hopeless at this point is that he entered the thread and was posting but didn't actually say anything of value, i.e. actively lurking. While I do agree this point, I feel that this was exactly how Sylencia entetered the thread. Yet you only mention Hopeless, why is that? I do know that Sylencia have since then been posting one big post but earlier you posted this:
On April 02 2013 11:07 risk.nuke wrote:
Viscera. Tunneling isn't about time, it's about not having an open mind. You lashed out at me instantly and agressively for the smallest thing so clearly you're looking at me as if I am scum and are trying to find things things that are scummy about me to confirm that belief. Aka tunneling.

You want REAL scummy shit. Everyone that's not posting are scummier then those who are posting.
For 2, I personally think Hopeless1der look very uninterested in finding scum.
mentioning Hopeless but never Sylencia and that is well before Sylencias big post.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 02 2013 14:03 GMT
#197
On April 02 2013 22:52 Sylencia wrote:Pressure votes work better if you're going to be around to take them off, otherwise it could end up being manslaughter in this game :\
I don't see why you are still so paranoid about voting around. If two guys just randomly just goes ahead and votes Risk right now, then we just lynch them both and win the game ezpz, right? Policy or not, there are stuff you cannot simply get away without getting in a very bad position.

And I'll gladly trade one mafia for a townie.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 02 2013 18:42 GMT
#268
Sylencia

So the reason I didn't want to out my scum read earlier was twofold
1. I wanted a little more basis for my accusations. His entrance into the game was scummy but could just have been a result of him beeing busy rather than scum.
2. I didn't have enough time to write a decent case.

Sylencias first 2 posts said absolutely nothing of anything. He then posts a seemingly long post but all it really contains 2 reads, the rest was stuff like calling risk wierd but no conclusion about his alignment. In this post he calls CC scum, VE town, and then proceeds to vote CC. Now it gets interesting! What does he do with this scum read? Jack shit!

Instead he goes into this drawn out argument with Ghor about Ghor's case on him. Why do this? Why is he not chasing his scum read instead of defending himself against 1 single vote which isn't threatening at all. Why doesn't he try to convince us that CC is scum?

Why does he go from
On April 02 2013 18:53 Sylencia wrote:- Cheesecake: This filter looks atrocious in my eyes, casting an early vote with little thought, yet providing no substance while he's around. Not sure if trolling around is his meta but seems pretty scum from here.
To
On April 03 2013 00:10 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 23:41 Ghor wrote:
risk.nuke Sweden. April 02 2013 09:19:
Think RoL just set of the old kenpachi trap.


risk say no policy in first post, but risk talk about stupid policy in next post.
risk say he no lynch RoL for kenpachi rule BEFORE defend himself, but say kenpachi rule legit and accurate when defend himself.

ghor want sylencia to say if he think risk town or scum, not flipflop pinball, evidence there, comment on it.


In addition, how is his statement about accuracy there that relevant to what happened before it? Are you suggesting that he said it to set up a bus on his buddy, then you're saying that he did that to say RoL is scum, then retract it? I don't even understand what you're getting at here.

And at this point, no, he's played enough games where I don't see him making himself look suspicious 3 hours into the game. The case on him has its merits however I would rather first see more from the two I've heard least from today (Hopeless and CC) - moreso Hopeless because there's ever so slightly more from CC.

Ghor - now that I've said it what are your thoughts on risk then? Would you say he is scum or not? Would you end up backing a vote on him if the time came for it?
WITHOUT CC even posting in between??? And then goes
On April 03 2013 00:42 Sylencia wrote:
In any case ##unvote as I'm going to sleep now, but what Ghor is saying is becoming ridiculously stupid since he says risk is scum but doesn't want to have him killed. If you don't want your scum read to be killed what the hell do you want?

If I wake up and this stupidity continues I won't hesitate to vote Ghor.
Still without CC saying jack shit? Well I'll tell you folks, because he is scum!

##Vote: Sylencia
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 02 2013 19:12 GMT
#270
On April 03 2013 04:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
I won't lynch Sylencia today. I DO want to know who Sylencia wants to lynch.
Eeeerhm... Mind telling why you don't find the case convincing?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 02 2013 20:01 GMT
#275
On April 03 2013 04:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's not a case, it's an observation that can be summed up as "Sylencia's read of CC has changed from lynchable to unvoting with CC not saying anything in between". I can see a town Sylencia becoming less and less sure of his read without help from CC, that's not scum indicative and it's your only point.

Why does his read change have to be scum motivated?
???

Explain why town Sylencia goes from "pretty sure hes scum" to unvote without the guy even says a word? And how he doesn't doesn't pressure his n1 scum read but instead goes on to defend himself against a accusations that weren't even close to killing him. And how he threatens to vote the guy that is stupid in an OMGUS fashion instead of the guy who was "pretty sure he is scum"? Please explain!
1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 19m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 153
Nathanias 147
StarCraft: Brood War
Larva 419
BeSt 253
ggaemo 253
firebathero 165
Mong 46
IntoTheRainbow 7
Dota 2
capcasts361
Pyrionflax121
Counter-Strike
fl0m2549
Stewie2K1290
byalli420
Foxcn228
Super Smash Bros
PPMD62
Mew2King44
Liquid`Ken27
Other Games
Grubby5793
shahzam490
KnowMe162
ZombieGrub67
Sick59
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta233
• StrangeGG 54
• musti20045 44
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix8
• Pr0nogo 3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22605
League of Legends
• Doublelift4867
• TFBlade966
Other Games
• imaqtpie1964
Upcoming Events
OSC
2h 19m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
13h 19m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
17h 19m
PiGosaur Monday
1d 2h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 13h
Stormgate Nexus
1d 16h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 18h
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
LiuLi Cup
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
RotterdaM Event
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
HCC Europe
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.