• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:04
CET 10:04
KST 18:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
What's the best tug of war? The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2?
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA) BW General Discussion FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How Does UI/UX Design Influence User Trust? Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2218 users

TL Mafia LXI

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 14 15 16 Next All
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 10 2013 03:54 GMT
#137
/in
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 20 2013 15:45 GMT
#225
Let's get this party started!
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 21 2013 00:35 GMT
#234
In 2,5 hours if i'm counted right.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 21 2013 15:30 GMT
#330
Sup guys.

On April 22 2013 00:08 Vivax wrote:
Not sure what to make of BM "claiming" snape like that. If I were to make a crazy guess, he's checking whether the real snape shows up contesting the claim, then say he posted some random shit cause he was drunk (cause that's what his posts look like ). And if the real snape doesn't show up, he will claim he's snape.

That'd be pretty ballsy, but effective scumplay. Let's see what BM has to say regarding this.


What's in your opinion the point of doing this as we can't know how many of each roles are in the game? If there is someone who claims snape, why can't BM be another one?

TRN and Palmar are probably town.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 21 2013 16:06 GMT
#352
On April 22 2013 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 00:08 Vivax wrote:
Not sure what to make of BM "claiming" snape like that. If I were to make a crazy guess, he's checking whether the real snape shows up contesting the claim, then say he posted some random shit cause he was drunk (cause that's what his posts look like ). And if the real snape doesn't show up, he will claim he's snape.

That'd be pretty ballsy, but effective scumplay. Let's see what BM has to say regarding this.


What's in your opinion the point of doing this as we can't know how many of each roles are in the game? If there is someone who claims snape, why can't BM be another one?

Vivax could you answer this?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 21 2013 16:16 GMT
#357
On April 22 2013 01:11 Vivax wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 22 2013 01:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On April 22 2013 00:08 Vivax wrote:
Not sure what to make of BM "claiming" snape like that. If I were to make a crazy guess, he's checking whether the real snape shows up contesting the claim, then say he posted some random shit cause he was drunk (cause that's what his posts look like ). And if the real snape doesn't show up, he will claim he's snape.

That'd be pretty ballsy, but effective scumplay. Let's see what BM has to say regarding this.


What's in your opinion the point of doing this as we can't know how many of each roles are in the game? If there is someone who claims snape, why can't BM be another one?

Vivax could you answer this?


I don't think there can be two self-aware millers. Don't see much point in discussing that atm, why does it concern you at this point? BM didn't even answer yet.

Because the OP clearly states there can be multiple number of same roles, so discussing if there are one or more self-aware millers in stupid in the first place.

Anyone who claims miller on D1 should be lynched.

##Vote: Bill Murray
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 21 2013 16:23 GMT
#364
On April 22 2013 01:11 Vivax wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 22 2013 01:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On April 22 2013 00:08 Vivax wrote:
Not sure what to make of BM "claiming" snape like that. If I were to make a crazy guess, he's checking whether the real snape shows up contesting the claim, then say he posted some random shit cause he was drunk (cause that's what his posts look like ). And if the real snape doesn't show up, he will claim he's snape.

That'd be pretty ballsy, but effective scumplay. Let's see what BM has to say regarding this.


What's in your opinion the point of doing this as we can't know how many of each roles are in the game? If there is someone who claims snape, why can't BM be another one?

Vivax could you answer this?


I don't think there can be two self-aware millers. Don't see much point in discussing that atm, why does it concern you at this point? BM didn't even answer yet.


What concerns me about you on this is the following:
You state that there is no reason to discuss this atm, yet you are giving BM an out in the first place by discussing the matter and saying this kinda stuff:
he posted some random shit cause he was drunk (cause that's what his posts look like ).And if the real snape doesn't show up, he will claim he's snape.

Why are you so eager to give BM the "right" answers if you want him to expalin himself?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 21 2013 16:25 GMT
#367
On April 22 2013 01:23 kushm4sta wrote:
WE knew that's what VE meant because we are town. Scum prob didn't know what he meant. Now you just explained it to them.

I think that ship sailed already.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 21 2013 16:33 GMT
#377
Agreed.

How about we lynch the guy who claimed miller?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 21 2013 16:35 GMT
#381
On April 22 2013 01:34 kushm4sta wrote:
Millers should all follow BM's example and claim.

No, that's stupid.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 21 2013 16:37 GMT
#384
On April 22 2013 01:36 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 22 2013 01:34 kushm4sta wrote:
Millers should all follow BM's example and claim.

No, that's stupid.

self aware millers should always claim. that is a simple fact of the game. there is no downside to it.

Yes there is, if you don't know if they even exist/how many of them there are.

Everyone who claims miller should be lynched.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 21 2013 16:41 GMT
#388
getmoript is there anyone who you'd like to... you know.. lynch? That's kinda the point of the game if you are town..
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 21 2013 19:04 GMT
#435
On April 22 2013 03:01 getmoript wrote:
It's me and Marv, but really more like reverse shadowing or something similar. Honestly VE, I think you're being a bit unreasonable here.

Let me get this straight. This is geript and marv both and you are both playing?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 21 2013 20:56 GMT
#468
OO:

Sharrant. Will be explaining in a bit, making food right now.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 21 2013 21:35 GMT
#483
On April 22 2013 05:48 ObviousOne wrote:
One more filter then I'm going to go level my Priest some more.

Oh. My. God. Tube is in this game. LOL. HI TUBE! (we played in a newbie together, my first game! He hasn't posted anything so skipping for now.)

Raynpelikoneet, sorry to pick on you again for like the third straight game in a row together. You want to lynch the "claimed miller" Bill Murray, you have made your stance on lynching millers abundantly clear, but I don't see anything that looks like it's developing into an actual scum read. Why are you leaning so heavily on your policy lynch when there are mafia to be lynched? Also, assume BM isn't here for a moment, who do you lynch?


I read BM's post as a miller claim. If it wasn't, he needs to explain this:
- What was the purpose of making that post? There is no reason for a townie to say anything that does not lead into finding scum or proving their towniness. I don't see that post achieving either of those things.

If the claim was actually real, i want BM to explain why he thought it was a good idea to claim miller D1. Millers should not claim. All it does is that it tells the thread that they will give out a red result if checked by a cop. Why would you be a good cop check in the first place if you are town? You should prove you are town by your actions so that there is no reason for anyone to assume you are mafia, and the cops should check suspicious people instead. Claiming miller on D1 is extremely suspicious because it already shows you are afraid of being checked by a cop. If you are a miller, and are checked, so what? Tough luck, then you claim and town will believe you or not. But the place to claim is not the start of D1.

This is not a policy lynch, BM's miller claim post is scummy.


About Sharrant. Sharrant accuses TRN of things. The case in itself is not scummy and i could see someone seeing TRN's posts in that light, i just don't get the same feeling from TRN's posts. Having played with him on NMXXXIX, i can tell that he has no idea how to act in the start of the game. Here he seems to be trying to figure out things and share his thoughts about stuff he is asked about. Fine, why is Sharrant scummy?

- He's discussing the "policy lynch BM" matter but does not reach any kind of a conclusion that points towards this particular situation.
- Asks TRN about his last games. It's not TRN's job to find those games to him. It's Sharrant's job to find out TRN's affiliation and TRN wasting time on telling him about his last games is a waste of time that does not help TRN find mafia. Seems like Sharrant is lazy and does not want to find out things on his own. Townies should not do that.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 21 2013 21:37 GMT
#484
EBWOP:
- Asks TRN about his last games. It's not TRN's job to find those games to him. It's Sharrant's job to find out TRN's affiliation and TRN telling him those games is a waste of time that does not help TRN find mafia. Seems like Sharrant is lazy and does not want to find out things on his own. Townies should not do that.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 21 2013 21:53 GMT
#488
On April 22 2013 06:43 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 06:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:48 ObviousOne wrote:
One more filter then I'm going to go level my Priest some more.

Oh. My. God. Tube is in this game. LOL. HI TUBE! (we played in a newbie together, my first game! He hasn't posted anything so skipping for now.)

Raynpelikoneet, sorry to pick on you again for like the third straight game in a row together. You want to lynch the "claimed miller" Bill Murray, you have made your stance on lynching millers abundantly clear, but I don't see anything that looks like it's developing into an actual scum read. Why are you leaning so heavily on your policy lynch when there are mafia to be lynched? Also, assume BM isn't here for a moment, who do you lynch?


I read BM's post as a miller claim. If it wasn't, he needs to explain this:
- What was the purpose of making that post? There is no reason for a townie to say anything that does not lead into finding scum or proving their towniness. I don't see that post achieving either of those things.

If the claim was actually real, i want BM to explain why he thought it was a good idea to claim miller D1. Millers should not claim. All it does is that it tells the thread that they will give out a red result if checked by a cop. Why would you be a good cop check in the first place if you are town? You should prove you are town by your actions so that there is no reason for anyone to assume you are mafia, and the cops should check suspicious people instead. Claiming miller on D1 is extremely suspicious because it already shows you are afraid of being checked by a cop. If you are a miller, and are checked, so what? Tough luck, then you claim and town will believe you or not. But the place to claim is not the start of D1.

This is not a policy lynch, BM's miller claim post is scummy.


About Sharrant. Sharrant accuses TRN of things. The case in itself is not scummy and i could see someone seeing TRN's posts in that light, i just don't get the same feeling from TRN's posts. Having played with him on NMXXXIX, i can tell that he has no idea how to act in the start of the game. Here he seems to be trying to figure out things and share his thoughts about stuff he is asked about. Fine, why is Sharrant scummy?

- He's discussing the "policy lynch BM" matter but does not reach any kind of a conclusion that points towards this particular situation.
- Asks TRN about his last games. It's not TRN's job to find those games to him. It's Sharrant's job to find out TRN's affiliation and TRN wasting time on telling him about his last games is a waste of time that does not help TRN find mafia. Seems like Sharrant is lazy and does not want to find out things on his own. Townies should not do that.


Where does TRN try to figure out things? Tbh I kinda have you both as scummy along a few others, so your defense of TRN strikes me especially. I don't really see anything that could give me a reason to think he's town, but if you're so kind, could you point it out?


Particularly this post of his:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 21 2013 23:19 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 23:09 Vivax wrote:
On April 21 2013 23:01 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 21 2013 22:52 Vivax wrote:
On April 21 2013 22:48 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 21 2013 22:42 Vivax wrote:
On April 21 2013 22:38 TheRavensName wrote:
Huh... I was curious to see how big boys start playing the game... and less then a page's worth of posting totals I see an OMGuS. I feel somewhat surprised; apparently the way newbies open mafia games is the right way?

PS: Bill Murray yelling indoors is really mean.


Oooo, an omgus, interesting.
Are you okay with the way Oats is playing the game?

I'm not a 100% sure what hes doing, but if you want to call it playing then... maybe? Truth be told the fact that palmer just randomly takes offense to a baseless acucsation in a game that just started doesn't make a lot of since to me.


He's asking for a base to the accusation, precisely.
Do you have any ideas to get some discussion started? Your entrance kinda looked like you tried to downplay what's going on in the thread, which in turn makes me think you're trying to communicate reasons for not doing anything.
Do you think this description fits your play or did your posts have other purposes?


I thought it just genuinely showed disapointment. I've always had difficulty understand what to do at the start of day 1, and I see that there really is no good way to start day 1 in a purely productive way. So I suppose your right, I'm trying to downplay what happens because it doesn't seem productive, unless of course we need to know why Yamato has many weapons that arn' t guns.....

And I think its more suspicious to ask in that way rather than, just ask.... seeing as how he didn't even vote baselessly or hasn't made an ssue out of it yet. If we went after everyone who accused someone day 1 just kinda in passing, we'd never get anything resembling a case or something.


I don't think Oats would answer even if Palmar just asked, cause Oats rather seems to be trolling and careless about getting something productive out of this day.
P said he would vote for him until he heard a proper motivation from Oats to call him scum, nothing followed, so Oats seems to oppose discussion and doesn't want to show his townieness through cooperation.

The question is: How do we handle people who don't want to cooperate? Do we threaten Oats with a lynch? Do we ask him nicely to play like someone that puts thought into his posts?


/shrug And what will we get out of threatening him at all? What does either lynching him for not liking a posted policy(? (Thats what that was right?)) or becase he just decided to troll actually accomplish (I think this one is more likely)? These are literaly the only responses he could make (That make any logical since and any others should count as trolling really) and I just don't see how either could prove guilt or innocense. But if you feel so strong on making him talk, why arn't you voting for him since apparently one vote isn't going to cut it?

I didn't mean he is trying to find mafia. I meant he is trying to find out how to play @ the game start, what to look for and what to call people out for. If you read his exchange with yourself, you should easily figure out he has no clue how to act in the beginning of the game. This does not make him 100% town but i doubt he would be openly expressing his thought about that matter if he was mafia, i think he would be far more cautious about what he says.

What makes me scummy in your eyes?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 21 2013 22:10 GMT
#491
And you tell this to me after i have fully explained why i am voting for BM?
I already asked you once to answer me. If you are willing to continuosly ignore my questions i make my own conclusions about that. If you find that matter not worth discussing that's fine, i'm not gonna tunnel you into answering questions, there is no point in doing so.

I didn't find anything else worth discussing at that point.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 21 2013 22:15 GMT
#493
What's this then:
he posted some random shit cause he was drunk (cause that's what his posts look like )
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 21 2013 22:22 GMT
#498
On April 22 2013 07:18 Vivax wrote:
It's part of a post you took out of context

Show nested quote +

Not sure what to make of BM "claiming" snape like that. If I were to make a crazy guess, he's checking whether the real snape shows up contesting the claim, then say he posted some random shit cause he was drunk (cause that's what his posts look like ). And if the real snape doesn't show up, he will claim he's snape.

That'd be pretty ballsy, but effective scumplay. Let's see what BM has to say regarding this.

Ehh.. You say if he is claiming miller or not claiming miller he is scummy. So did you think he was claiming miller or not, joking, or what's the purpose of you this post?

or this later post:

Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:16 Vivax wrote:
If BM says he's miller I'll not believe him, and if he says he isn't I'll see his action as scummy.

Yes, and that was after i questioned you, so that's irrelevant.

I didn't take anything out of the context imo.
table for two on a tv tray
1 2 3 4 5 14 15 16 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 56m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 166
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 31694
Rain 1275
firebathero 886
BeSt 334
Leta 297
Mong 202
Soma 186
Zeus 93
Rush 91
Dewaltoss 84
[ Show more ]
JulyZerg 68
Sharp 53
Mind 37
Shine 31
sorry 31
ZergMaN 30
NotJumperer 29
Bale 13
SilentControl 8
League of Legends
JimRising 613
C9.Mang0423
Other Games
summit1g5979
Happy426
XaKoH 176
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV68
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 8
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• HappyZerGling188
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
7h 56m
Elazer vs Nicoract
Reynor vs Scarlett
Replay Cast
14h 56m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Krystianer vs TBD
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs TBD
ByuN vs Nicoract
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.