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ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 16 2013 03:36 GMT
#169
I hate large games, but...
There are no normal-ass normal games.
Therefore I must

/in

//Didn't read the OP.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 19 2013 23:38 GMT
#211
My wand is so erect right now.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 21 2013 03:35 GMT
#239
Weekends imba

BH LOVES THOR'S HIPS

PASS IT ON
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ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 21 2013 20:03 GMT
#442
On April 22 2013 04:52 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 01:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 22 2013 01:11 Vivax wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 22 2013 01:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On April 22 2013 00:08 Vivax wrote:
Not sure what to make of BM "claiming" snape like that. If I were to make a crazy guess, he's checking whether the real snape shows up contesting the claim, then say he posted some random shit cause he was drunk (cause that's what his posts look like ). And if the real snape doesn't show up, he will claim he's snape.

That'd be pretty ballsy, but effective scumplay. Let's see what BM has to say regarding this.


What's in your opinion the point of doing this as we can't know how many of each roles are in the game? If there is someone who claims snape, why can't BM be another one?

Vivax could you answer this?


I don't think there can be two self-aware millers. Don't see much point in discussing that atm, why does it concern you at this point? BM didn't even answer yet.

Because the OP clearly states there can be multiple number of same roles, so discussing if there are one or more self-aware millers in stupid in the first place.

Anyone who claims miller on D1 should be lynched.

##Vote: Bill Murray


Bill Murray's post wasn't a claim though

This is true enough, though one wonders about the motivation for even saying the name. It's not outside the realm of possibility that he wanted to nudge the town causing millers to claim. Doesn't tell me if he is town or scum, either; he could be fishing for mafia to rise to the bait and miller claim as well. Discussion went (without his explicit aid) towards lynching all miller claims and that theoretical concept was shut down.

Why don't we just ask him if he's claiming miller and move on until he comes back? His activity in Boardwalk was mostly in the late evening/early morning hours (EST), so we'll see what he has to say about it when he comes back.

In the mean time, ShiaoPi why did you want to kill Bill Murray as your first game post? It doesn't exactly jive with your previous post in the pre-game. Explain please.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 21 2013 20:17 GMT
#451
On April 21 2013 18:43 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 18:18 yamato77 wrote:
You seem a little too nervous about my post.

Maybe you are a good person to kill.


Er, what makes me come off as nervous lol

Sylencia this post makes you sound nervous. The structure of the sentence, as normally seen in literature, makes it look like you are hiding something.

You seem to have let this drop off rather casually, as did Yamato. IMO the early prod of you on Yamato's part worked because you have demonstrated here that you are possibly hiding something. Your second post says to disregard your first, so all I have to go on from you is that you are nervous.

So are you hiding the fact that you are scum? Or are you hiding that you haven't a clue what is going on? Please explain thoroughly your opinion on at least two players so I can learn about you. Your filter is too scummy to ignore.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 21 2013 20:30 GMT
#461
On April 22 2013 05:20 Sharrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:17 ObviousOne wrote:
On April 21 2013 18:43 Sylencia wrote:
On April 21 2013 18:18 yamato77 wrote:
You seem a little too nervous about my post.

Maybe you are a good person to kill.


Er, what makes me come off as nervous lol

Sylencia this post makes you sound nervous. The structure of the sentence, as normally seen in literature, makes it look like you are hiding something.

You seem to have let this drop off rather casually, as did Yamato. IMO the early prod of you on Yamato's part worked because you have demonstrated here that you are possibly hiding something. Your second post says to disregard your first, so all I have to go on from you is that you are nervous.

So are you hiding the fact that you are scum? Or are you hiding that you haven't a clue what is going on? Please explain thoroughly your opinion on at least two players so I can learn about you. Your filter is too scummy to ignore.



Noticed this too, I think Sylencia would be a good lynch today as well. ObviousOne, what do you think about TheRavensName?

I obs'd his last game (newbie game) and it was pretty apparent he was scum by the end of D2. I'll have a better handle on his alignment when he answers the pending questions (from you) and takes a stance on something. So far all I see in his filter gives me a weak bad/new town read. He is asking questions, and his questions make sense from someone not as experienced with the way normal games start up on TL mafia.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 21 2013 20:48 GMT
#467
One more filter then I'm going to go level my Priest some more.

Oh. My. God. Tube is in this game. LOL. HI TUBE! (we played in a newbie together, my first game! He hasn't posted anything so skipping for now.)

Raynpelikoneet, sorry to pick on you again for like the third straight game in a row together. You want to lynch the "claimed miller" Bill Murray, you have made your stance on lynching millers abundantly clear, but I don't see anything that looks like it's developing into an actual scum read. Why are you leaning so heavily on your policy lynch when there are mafia to be lynched? Also, assume BM isn't here for a moment, who do you lynch?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 22 2013 01:24 GMT
#586
Some followup on my previous posts.

ShiaoPi still hasn't responded to my question, but hasn't been around to do so. I do expect an answer when you return.
On April 22 2013 05:03 ObviousOne wrote:
In the mean time, ShiaoPi why did you want to kill Bill Murray as your first game post? It doesn't exactly jive with your previous post in the pre-game. Explain please.


@Sylencia, I would be most pleased if you could follow up with reads as you have them instead of posting them in batches, especially considering I have witnessed your activity levels in at least one past game where you post from work (This Town Ain't Big Enough, for example) so even if your questions are repeats of things that happen on future pages it would help a lot with getting a read on you to bang them out. I don't think you're scum necessarily yet; I just want to see more from you. Help me out?

@Rayn, not really feeling a Sharrant lynch anytime in the near foreseeable future. The BM situation should be resolved tonight (hopefully). As far as TRN it's not so much that he is scummy, it's that he's lacking qualities that point to townie. He's deserving of scrutiny and I am keeping my eye on him as a possible candidate for today. Who's your second choice for lynch today and why?

Gonna peruse another filter or two. I think I saw that Oats is somewhat a hot topic for discussion, I will weigh in on that when I return.

@Ace, holler at me who you want to lynch outside of the BM situation, and why.

Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 22 2013 01:49 GMT
#597
On April 22 2013 10:44 ShiaoPi wrote:
@ObviousOne:
Which post are you referring to? This one: + Show Spoiler +
On April 20 2013 14:20 ShiaoPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 13:56 Ace wrote:
*looks at player list*

*shakes head in a bored way knowing he will lynch Bill Murray with ease Day 1*


but but....he is EVIL??!!!

or this one: + Show Spoiler +
On March 25 2013 17:59 ShiaoPi wrote:
I actually wanted to /in but then I saw grush and BM in the playerlist.....not again...never again...

/obs or if you want a cohost with an East asian timezone, I'd be up for that too


Still got shittons of catching up to do, just saw that as I scrolled over the last page

Just in general I want to get a feel for what it is that you are apprehensive about when it comes to BM. The first of the two quote, for what it's worth.

What I basically wanted to suss out of you was what was the reason for wanting to kill BM? Funzies? Start conversation? Looking forward to that answer and whatever you're bringing to the table when you're caught up. Thanks.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 22 2013 01:55 GMT
#599
As far as Oats is concerned, I'm going to give him a full day to put his madness in the thread, make a call, and stick with my read at that point. For sanity reasons.

@Oats
You called Palmar scum, I'd love to know why. I don't see Palmar being scum at this point. Show me how Palmar is scum and maybe you will get a couple townie points.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 22 2013 17:45 GMT
#769
On April 22 2013 12:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Ugh, all I've got are feel reads. I wouldn't mind lynching me a Hopeless or Giygas (idc how you spell it) today. No reasoning given, just the feels. Hard evidence is difficult to come by unless I'm purposely trying to lynch townies as mafia t.t /complain.

I feel like sharrant is town, for the record. Ray is probably town. Yamato I'm disappointed hasn't been shouting at people so I could easily discern his alignment, but unfortunately he has just been threatening to kill people. Icantbelievehesnullbro.

Shiaopi i think would be a decent target as well.

Could someone just yell at me in all caps so I feel like I'm being pressured? Like seriously it's how I get my best reads -- on those who pressure me.

Since you believe Rayn is town, I would like to see you convince Rayn that Sharrant is town. How you can make him feel your feel-read is up to you. Maybe use words. Questions are tasty too. I want to have my Cheesecake and eat you too.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 22 2013 17:47 GMT
#770
Will inactivity modkills be flipped or hidden?

If they'll be flipped then forget about 'em. Nuke them from orbit and let the Flying Spaghetti Monster sort them out.

If their flips won't be revealed, then and only then would I be down for a no-content lurker lynch today.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 22 2013 18:09 GMT
#771
+ Show Spoiler [huge text by hopeless] +

On April 23 2013 02:03 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 01:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yes and right after:
"If it wasn't, he needs to explain this:"

You didn't give a shit when you voted him
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 01:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 22 2013 01:11 Vivax wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 22 2013 01:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On April 22 2013 00:08 Vivax wrote:
Not sure what to make of BM "claiming" snape like that. If I were to make a crazy guess, he's checking whether the real snape shows up contesting the claim, then say he posted some random shit cause he was drunk (cause that's what his posts look like ). And if the real snape doesn't show up, he will claim he's snape.

That'd be pretty ballsy, but effective scumplay. Let's see what BM has to say regarding this.


What's in your opinion the point of doing this as we can't know how many of each roles are in the game? If there is someone who claims snape, why can't BM be another one?

Vivax could you answer this?


I don't think there can be two self-aware millers. Don't see much point in discussing that atm, why does it concern you at this point? BM didn't even answer yet.

Because the OP clearly states there can be multiple number of same roles, so discussing if there are one or more self-aware millers in stupid in the first place.

Anyone who claims miller on D1 should be lynched.

##Vote: Bill Murray

Note that your vote post cites a lynch all miller claims as a policy for your vote.

raynpelikoneet, Do you disagree? This is a 'yes' or 'no' question specifically referencing whether or not you used a policy to justify your initial vote on Bill Murray.






Hopeless I will discuss Rayn with you for a moment, mainly because I have already talked to Rayn a bit and it's your turn.

+ Show Spoiler [summary crap] +
As with what seems like several players here, I was under the impression that his original vote was a policy lynch on self-aware miller claims. I asked about it, and it later was clarified that BM saying 'sheverus shnape' was reason to call him scum. Then we talk about how it wasn't really a miller claim after all, and Rayn stayed on BM's nuts for it past the point of good reason. BM does what BM does.


Rayn switch from null BM to town Sharrant puts him in a bad light. What makes me think Rayn is scum is how desperately long he was calling BM scum when the matter was still up in the air, like he had attached to a read and wouldn't let go of it for anything. I also disagree that the specific things in his original case on Sharrant make Sharrant likely to be scum.




Why the fuck would miller claims = auto lynch, by the way? I don't vote for claims, especially ones that are unique to town, based solely on the claim. I can claim Testicular Nodule and that doesn't help my case at all, even though it's just as believable. Lynch players for scummy behavior, not bullshit claims on D1.



Dear Policy Lynchers,

BEAT THE PLAYERS NOT THE SETUP FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOTDOGS WITH MUSTARD.

With great adoration and some purring,
ObviousOne

P.S.
##Vote Raynpelikoneet
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 22 2013 19:57 GMT
#789
On April 23 2013 04:55 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 04:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ace or BC, is there anyone you guys would like to lynch?


The guy Im voting for? You know, the one I called out for having the single most scumtastic post in the thread?

You called my post scum then voted for Yamato.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 22 2013 20:22 GMT
#811
On April 23 2013 05:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 05:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 23 2013 05:11 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On April 23 2013 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is OO scum by the bolded part you quoted BC? I mean, i also think he is scummy for throwing questions around and not doing anything with the answers, but why that exact comment makes him scum? There are like ~10 other people who think the same, what differs them from OO?


I already answered that question on the previous page

Sorry, question worded badly.

What differs OO from the other people who think the same?


Hes good enough to know better. He dropped the opinion in a giant wall of useless text, and used it as a way to marginally work in a reason to vote for you. Given that it is an absolutely wrong opinion, and one that only a scum could stand behind to lynch someone (unless hes extremely bad) he must be scum.

Wat. I am extremely bad. Who told you I was good? Did you make that assumption to support your conclusion? I'm good enough to know better? That miller claims should be auto lynched? When we can just lynch people who are acting like mafia? You are telling me that lynching probable town is better than lynching probable scum and in trying to wrap my head around that, I just decided I need to smoke. Thanks for the gesture of good faith, I guess? The fuck am I reading?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 22 2013 20:35 GMT
#815
On April 23 2013 05:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 05:22 ObviousOne wrote:
On April 23 2013 05:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On April 23 2013 05:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 23 2013 05:11 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On April 23 2013 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is OO scum by the bolded part you quoted BC? I mean, i also think he is scummy for throwing questions around and not doing anything with the answers, but why that exact comment makes him scum? There are like ~10 other people who think the same, what differs them from OO?


I already answered that question on the previous page

Sorry, question worded badly.

What differs OO from the other people who think the same?


Hes good enough to know better. He dropped the opinion in a giant wall of useless text, and used it as a way to marginally work in a reason to vote for you. Given that it is an absolutely wrong opinion, and one that only a scum could stand behind to lynch someone (unless hes extremely bad) he must be scum.

Wat. I am extremely bad. Who told you I was good? Did you make that assumption to support your conclusion? I'm good enough to know better? That miller claims should be auto lynched? When we can just lynch people who are acting like mafia? You are telling me that lynching probable town is better than lynching probable scum and in trying to wrap my head around that, I just decided I need to smoke. Thanks for the gesture of good faith, I guess? The fuck am I reading?


What reason does town have to make to ever claim miller? Seriously, tell me. All it does is clusterfuck a thread and leaves open ground for mafia to claim as well and thus be cleared as town as he claimed miller. Assume all miller claims are bullshit and kill. If you get red checked you get killed. Its pretty simple. You lynch people who are likely mafia. Town has no reason to ever claim miller EVEN IF THEY KNOW THEY ARE ONE. As all it does is create chaos. IE only mafia have a benefit to claim it thus should be lynched.

As for extremely bad? Sorry I've seen you play. You aren't that bad and should be able to follow the logic I just outlined. Its straightforward and extremely basic.

I claimed I hadn't read my role PM (and I hadn't when I posed) and created similar chaos in RED. You would have lynched me for that as well?

Also, if you want the level of play of TL mafia to improve maybe have some fucking goodwill and share that experience with people so you don't end up calling entire towns shit when most people seem to be playing to the best of their time/ability. Like seriously, you are further enforcing the forum meta that being an asshole to others will somehow encourage them to do better. Let me drop you a hint, it doesn't work on everyone, even if it works on some. That attitude will drive people away and it'll be you and a handful of other obnoxious people shitting up game threads that nobody wants to join because they would rather have a dentist appointment than the displeasure of dealing with being told they are awful every single game.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 22 2013 20:59 GMT
#821
On April 23 2013 05:55 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 05:46 Vivax wrote:
I'll tell you who I want to lynch the most today:

##Vote Oatsmaster

His play differs a lot from his town play, where he can be disruptive, but is also ballsy and involved. In Boardwalk empire he played an aggressive early game, not afraid to tunnel players, or to be annoying with his aggression.

Here he started like that, to turn defensive when threatened by me and Palmar, and his involvement seems to be very low afterwards, he rather trolls or talks about irrelevant stuff, and doesn't post much. Scared Oats.


seriously, lets not do this. No meta cases please. We need 13 votes to secure a lynch by deadline - how about we not bring up lynching people with no context in THIS game whatsoever? You aren't going to convince many people with this, and you're just stalling the yamato wagon. Dont do this bullshit.

The day ends when a majority is reached. I see no mention of a deadline though I assume there will be an ultimatum if Day 1 takes too long similar to how one of the days in Noir played out.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 22 2013 22:03 GMT
#839
I prefer Yamato today. You and the captain can make it happen.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 24 2013 11:34 GMT
#1353
Re-reading the game, I'm on Page 18.

Biggest thing sticking out to me at the moment is that Mr. Cheesecake was going out of his way to establish that he is town by pushing the concept that a pro-town CC is not town, and then doing annoying things that make him look scummy.

On April 23 2013 12:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Either way, I'm tired. The amount of spam in the thread related to yamato / oats being dumb is astounding... just lynch one of them so I can have a little concrete information to work with going into tomorrow.

This is a totes scummy post. Maybe if I play a little more anti-town I'll be confirmed town :D


Still playing it up.

He does however mention he wants to lynch ShiaoPi, the only other scum read I could discern he has had outside of Yamato/Oats and he doesn't push it so much as suggest it.

So I invite Mr. CC to do the following:
- Comprehensive case on ShiaoPi if that is still one of your scum reads, or on whoever else it is that you think is scum right now.
- Stop playing to your meta and start playing the game instead of preemptively defending your scummy behavior by saying it's your town meta.

Failure to comply will result in your lynch. Thank you.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 24 2013 14:00 GMT
#1356
On April 23 2013 03:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
But OO! FEELS! Lynch BM!

VE do you still want to lynch BM?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
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