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Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 21 2006 05:28 GMT
#1
a very interesting article...

Part1

Part 2

part 3

sometimes the genius of some people is simply amazing.

pd: lol @ the last coment in part 3.
:)
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
May 21 2006 05:34 GMT
#2
for some reason i'm paranoid about clicking them links first lol
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6772 Posts
May 21 2006 05:46 GMT
#3
Cool, thanks
Graphics
MaGnIfIcA
Profile Joined October 2002
Norway2312 Posts
May 21 2006 06:01 GMT
#4
Interesting stuff =)
Wannabe sMB member yo, so spankable-.-v;;
proTOSS[GER]
Profile Joined September 2004
858 Posts
May 21 2006 06:34 GMT
#5
Finally the true story.
That is many tank yes?
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
May 21 2006 06:34 GMT
#6
watched this on TV a while ago, atleast they didn't make it into a drama like too many documentaries do.
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10541 Posts
May 21 2006 06:42 GMT
#7
really interesting
Im back, in pog form!
AngryLlama
Profile Joined September 2005
United States1227 Posts
May 21 2006 06:54 GMT
#8
nice, i just got done watching them all :D
nArAnjO
Profile Joined October 2002
Peru2571 Posts
May 21 2006 07:49 GMT
#9
got bored after the frist 1 minute and those dudes are ugly as fuck
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3983 Posts
May 21 2006 08:27 GMT
#10
cool how those dudes all fit in with the hacker stereotype...what does it matter if they're ugly. Ur not gonna jack off no matter what they look like?
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 21 2006 09:03 GMT
#11
im amazed how americans reacted at those guys...read the coments at part 3.

they are fucking genius! you dont put the genius in jail...can u image the things that the guy would have done in those 5 years in jail??
:)
Paragon
Profile Joined February 2006
United States295 Posts
May 21 2006 09:28 GMT
#12
On May 21 2006 18:03 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
im amazed how americans reacted at those guys...read the coments at part 3.

they are fucking genius! you dont put the genius in jail...can u image the things that the guy would have done in those 5 years in jail??


At least we had computers!
Not that Subway Wouldn`t still be pro, just not as pro as other things.. It`d be the Mumyung of sandwich places, I guess. - SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
May 21 2006 10:39 GMT
#13
Wow I can't believe I finished watching that.

That was really interesting.
oHInsane
Profile Joined February 2005
France727 Posts
May 21 2006 11:24 GMT
#14
The whole movie is also available on some p2p as far as i remember.
Even if it is a little bit old, this document deals with many interesting things. The war-dialing stuff with the telephone hijack is really amazing and i mean it is where jacking began.

On a side not, i would like to talk about what's hacking now. I don't know if you have already been to the defcon which is a hacker meeting in california (i went there three years ago and it was settled in vegas). It is really interesting if you like all those hacking stuff even if it is now full of commercials and full of companies who are there to sell there last "imba-all-protecting-software". But if you know some guys there, they will lead you to some alternative meeting with various old school and new school guy who are really really amazing. I saw them playing a Capture The Flag and that was simply unbelievable. (- Capture The Flag is not the FPS thing in this case, it is just a bunch of hackers separated in two teams. Each team has a server with one special file on it, and you have to steal the file on the other server and at the same time protecting your file - ).
Nowadays, the security world is very fond of the Wireless network hack ( wardriving ) which reminds me of a combination of computer hacker and telephone hacker. If you don't know wardriving, it is just a way to penetrate wireless network. You just drive a car with a computer and wireless card and you're looking for wireless access point with it. You can enter the network of many areas that use wireless (like companies, free space, airport and so on).

I am not an expert but i am really interested by their spirit even if i sometimes disagree with all the "hack the world" and "everything free for all" propaganda around it, it is still interesting if you like computer science.

Now i don't want to bore you more than i did and i will give you some other links to videos. It is a mix of bumping-computer hacking stuff.

[vid] http://www.toool.nl/bumpkey-alert.wmv : How to enter any rooms .
[vid] http://www.phuzion.com/14/?p=tutorials&tid=7 : how to play flash games ?
[vid] http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=inurl:"view/index.shtml"&btnG=Search : just a foramted google request to access some security camera all over the world
[web] http://www.milw0rm.com : Some exploits.

I have many more links but hehe, it is a sc forum but those one are interesting i think.

Thanks to unforgiven for starting this thread!
mel_ee
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
2448 Posts
May 21 2006 11:39 GMT
#15
On May 21 2006 20:24 oHInsane wrote:
The whole movie is also available on some p2p as far as i remember.
Even if it is a little bit old, this document deals with many interesting things. The war-dialing stuff with the telephone hijack is really amazing and i mean it is where jacking began.

On a side not, i would like to talk about what's hacking now. I don't know if you have already been to the defcon which is a hacker meeting in california (i went there three years ago and it was settled in vegas). It is really interesting if you like all those hacking stuff even if it is now full of commercials and full of companies who are there to sell there last "imba-all-protecting-software". But if you know some guys there, they will lead you to some alternative meeting with various old school and new school guy who are really really amazing. I saw them playing a Capture The Flag and that was simply unbelievable. (- Capture The Flag is not the FPS thing in this case, it is just a bunch of hackers separated in two teams. Each team has a server with one special file on it, and you have to steal the file on the other server and at the same time protecting your file - ).
Nowadays, the security world is very fond of the Wireless network hack ( wardriving ) which reminds me of a combination of computer hacker and telephone hacker. If you don't know wardriving, it is just a way to penetrate wireless network. You just drive a car with a computer and wireless card and you're looking for wireless access point with it. You can enter the network of many areas that use wireless (like companies, free space, airport and so on).

I am not an expert but i am really interested by their spirit even if i sometimes disagree with all the "hack the world" and "everything free for all" propaganda around it, it is still interesting if you like computer science.

Now i don't want to bore you more than i did and i will give you some other links to videos. It is a mix of bumping-computer hacking stuff.

[vid] http://www.toool.nl/bumpkey-alert.wmv : How to enter any rooms .
[vid] http://www.phuzion.com/14/?p=tutorials&tid=7 : how to play flash games ?
[vid] http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=inurl:"view/index.shtml"&btnG=Search : just a foramted google request to access some security camera all over the world
[web] http://www.milw0rm.com : Some exploits.

I have many more links but hehe, it is a sc forum but those one are interesting i think.

Thanks to unforgiven for starting this thread!


those links, what do i do there? tips?
Behold the bold soldier, control the globe slowly proceeds to blow swingin swords like Shinobi
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
May 21 2006 12:10 GMT
#16
Very interesting, thanks for sharing.

Could someone, who knows something about the hacker "scene" explain a bit about how that scene works now? When I think of hacking, I think of people spreading viruses and the like, and I have a really hard time believing that they do that for a valid reason.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
May 21 2006 12:24 GMT
#17
On May 21 2006 20:24 oHInsane wrote:
[vid] http://www.phuzion.com/14/?p=tutorials&tid=7 : how to play flash games ?


What would be your motivation to hack a video game to get first in the ranking? Seriously, wtf?
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
oHInsane
Profile Joined February 2005
France727 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-05-21 12:54:34
May 21 2006 12:52 GMT
#18
On May 21 2006 20:39 mel_ee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2006 20:24 oHInsane wrote:
The whole movie is also available on some p2p as far as i remember.
Even if it is a little bit old, this document deals with many interesting things. The war-dialing stuff with the telephone hijack is really amazing and i mean it is where jacking began.

On a side not, i would like to talk about what's hacking now. I don't know if you have already been to the defcon which is a hacker meeting in california (i went there three years ago and it was settled in vegas). It is really interesting if you like all those hacking stuff even if it is now full of commercials and full of companies who are there to sell there last "imba-all-protecting-software". But if you know some guys there, they will lead you to some alternative meeting with various old school and new school guy who are really really amazing. I saw them playing a Capture The Flag and that was simply unbelievable. (- Capture The Flag is not the FPS thing in this case, it is just a bunch of hackers separated in two teams. Each team has a server with one special file on it, and you have to steal the file on the other server and at the same time protecting your file - ).
Nowadays, the security world is very fond of the Wireless network hack ( wardriving ) which reminds me of a combination of computer hacker and telephone hacker. If you don't know wardriving, it is just a way to penetrate wireless network. You just drive a car with a computer and wireless card and you're looking for wireless access point with it. You can enter the network of many areas that use wireless (like companies, free space, airport and so on).

I am not an expert but i am really interested by their spirit even if i sometimes disagree with all the "hack the world" and "everything free for all" propaganda around it, it is still interesting if you like computer science.

Now i don't want to bore you more than i did and i will give you some other links to videos. It is a mix of bumping-computer hacking stuff.

[vid] http://www.toool.nl/bumpkey-alert.wmv : How to enter any rooms .
[vid] http://www.phuzion.com/14/?p=tutorials&tid=7 : how to play flash games ?
[vid] http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=inurl:"view/index.shtml"&btnG=Search : just a foramted google request to access some security camera all over the world
[web] http://www.milw0rm.com : Some exploits.

I have many more links but hehe, it is a sc forum but those one are interesting i think.

Thanks to unforgiven for starting this thread!


those links, what do i do there? tips?


The first two ones are two videos, just watch them if you're intereseted.
The google one is used to find some badly protected security camera, you just have to click on the links returned by google and watch some cams (there are some american college cams, some useless ones, some scientifc ones to observe birds migration and so on...)
THe last one is just a database for computer science exploits. It is used to be aware of the last security flaws on many programs. You won't find anything interesting if you don't have an idea about the programs mentionned in this site.
On May 21 2006 20:39 Orome:
Very interesting, thanks for sharing.

Could someone, who knows something about the hacker "scene" explain a bit about how that scene works now? When I think of hacking, I think of people spreading viruses and the like, and I have a really hard time believing that they do that for a valid reason.


I am just aware about what is happening in France. The "scene" is according to me (there are many varaitions about its definition), a group of people that are bringing something new to the security world and that share it with a limited group of people who have found or who are working on various hacking projects.
I just know what is going on since the internet era (i mean i don't know anything about phone hacks and so on). So basically, there are many fields gathered around the hacking concept. At the beginning, like nearly 10 years ago, there were some computer science specialists who were trying to find some flaws , and to exploit them (or not) for different purposes: fun, money, helping people improving their sofwares. Since the beginning we can see two different groups.
On the one hand, we have the ones called the "white hat hackers", who are the one who are trying to find some flaws/exploits on a media (a software for example) and who helps the developpers to correct those flaws withour exploiting them. Typical example: i find a flaw on the teamliquid website that allows me to be an admin. I tell the owner of teamliquid that i found a flaw and how to correct it then he corrects it and everythoing is ok.
On the other hand, we have the ones who are finding flaws to exploit them for their own profit.They are called "black hat" ie: i find a flaw on the tl.net website, and i use it to erase all the forums posts.

And i should also mention some lame people (called "lamers") who are using other exploits for their own profit. IE: someone finds a flaw on tl.net and decides to release it on the web. Someone elese picks this exploit and uses it against tl.net for his own benefit -> lame. They call it lame cause it requires no skill.

Many hackers you will be heard of on tv or radion are lamers. They use an exploit or a virus made by someone else and spread them all over the world.

The real hackers, i mean the ones who really find something new, are a few. Mitnick was the most famous of them. I mean, he is a legend on the hacking world. According to me, his story inspired many hackers. Nowadays, most of those people are gathering around website, irc channels on the internet and are specialised on many different fields related to hacking. Coding, OS specialist, Carding, reverse engineering, Fingerprinting, Networking and so on to name a few.

sometimes they meet each other on some unofficial meeting. One of this famous meeting is called "2600" (google it to have more information). According to me , the art of hacking should be a challenge to find flaw in something that should not. Unfortunately, too much people used those well know flaws for their own profit. It is always a pain to see someone being mentionned on tv for spreading a virus that costs so much money and troubles for the users and for the companies. Most of the time, this guy just goes on milw0rm or nay other sites, picks an exploit which can damage Windows XP SP2 and puts it into a mail and sends it via mass emailing on the internet.


Now you can wonder why hackers who found an exploit release it on the Internet?
It is difficult to answer that. According to me, there are two things:
Firstly, he releases it just to be mentionned on an internet security website and to get some "glory".
Secondly, To be recognized as someone who is sharing his knowledge ( disclosuer rule).

I can talk about that more but i have no time at the moment. Maybe if someone is interested, i will continue.


camooT
Profile Joined October 2004
United States1354 Posts
May 21 2006 13:00 GMT
#19
this is one of the coolest tl threads ever. thanks ohinsane
Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
May 21 2006 13:27 GMT
#20
some of the bests hackers want to stay "undercover".

maybe someone un tl is a supermegady3812812 hacker?!!?

SHOW YOURSELF!! YOU ENLIGHTENED MIND!!!!!

you are welcome oHInsane, and plz tell us more =)
:)
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