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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 22:14:44
February 13 2013 03:22 GMT
#6
Wow the setups are getting really good. I wish I could play, but I can't handle more than 1 game at a time.

EBWOP: I've already asked for /replace so I won't be needing obs =)
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 15 2013 18:36 GMT
#24
May I /replace?

I doubt I'll be needed, but I can't play more than 1 game at a time, but I still want to have a shot of playing this game.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 19 2013 04:43 GMT
#40
You know, I've changed my mind.

Sorry Hiro, I've been all over the place when it comes to what way I'm going to take part in this game, but /in

Thanks =)
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 19 2013 20:13 GMT
#55
Sylencia are you going to actually play this time?
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 24 2013 18:48 GMT
#101
Hello everyone!

I feel like Marv and Snarfs made some good points (besides Snarfs' soft town claim). I feel that any rash plays are just going to hurt town and that we should use all of the time available to come to a neat and organized decision, which is most often the right one.

I think getting the two scummiest dudes to duel each other is a good idea but if they are both scum I think they would be reluctant to do so. Any plans revolving around this idea just generally invite a lot of WIFOM, which I would like to stay away from as well.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 24 2013 19:09 GMT
#104
On February 25 2013 03:50 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 03:48 cDgCorazon wrote:
Hello everyone!

I feel like Marv and Snarfs made some good points (besides Snarfs' soft town claim). I feel that any rash plays are just going to hurt town and that we should use all of the time available to come to a neat and organized decision, which is most often the right one.

I think getting the two scummiest dudes to duel each other is a good idea but if they are both scum I think they would be reluctant to do so. Any plans revolving around this idea just generally invite a lot of WIFOM, which I would like to stay away from as well.


Please don't use the word WIFOM when you don't know how to apply it. Makes me shudder reading your last paragraph tbh.

If two scum are reluctant, then they're virtually mafia-claiming anyway. So that's not how it would go down at all.


Yeah but then we have to figure out whether their behavior and actions towards the other person is based off of them truly defending themselves or bussing their scumbuddy.

The alternative would be to not vote and have both of them killed, but I don't think we should take that much of a risk.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 24 2013 20:17 GMT
#109
On February 25 2013 05:03 marvellosity wrote:
yeah I'll talk about it more after dinner. I don't like Corazon already.


If you've ever seen any of my other games, you'll find that no one ever likes me...
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 24 2013 22:48 GMT
#152
I just want to make a point about the general attitude that we should all go into this game with. Both Hapa and Sylencia responded to Marv's "suspicion on me".

Sylencia's and Hapa's responses both have completely different mentalities when it comes to handling discussion:

On February 25 2013 06:57 Hapahauli wrote:
Ok this is getting nowhere.

@ Cora
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 05:17 cDgCorazon wrote:
On February 25 2013 05:03 marvellosity wrote:
yeah I'll talk about it more after dinner. I don't like Corazon already.


If you've ever seen any of my other games, you'll find that no one ever likes me...


Let's not start with the "woe is me" attitude. Why did people not like you in your previous games, and what are you going to do about it this game?



On February 25 2013 07:05 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 05:17 cDgCorazon wrote:
On February 25 2013 05:03 marvellosity wrote:
yeah I'll talk about it more after dinner. I don't like Corazon already.


If you've ever seen any of my other games, you'll find that no one ever likes me...


Because of your piss poor attitude when things don't go exactly the way you want it to.


The big difference that I see between Hapa's response and Syl's response is that Hapa is trying to stimulate discussion and promote a good environment where we can all improve, whereas Syl is trying to rub salt in old wounds and is baiting me to argue with him on this.

I'm not taking the bait Syl. Nice try.



Why have people not trusted me in previous games? Because I have said stupid stuff and did little to look pro-town (if I was town). In all honesty I always find the opening parts of Mafia hard and my first post was pretty evident of that. At least you guys know that I am not lurking/have an actual heartbeat.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 24 2013 22:54 GMT
#154
On February 25 2013 07:50 yamato77 wrote:
So do you think Sylencia is mafia for it, Cora?

Is it scummy for him to do what you point out? You left out any comment on his alignment.


Sarcastic responses aside, it's a scummy move but it is only one post. He's still a null read.
If I think he is scum somewhere down the line, I'll let you all know.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 24 2013 23:08 GMT
#156
On February 25 2013 08:04 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 07:48 cDgCorazon wrote:
I just want to make a point about the general attitude that we should all go into this game with. Both Hapa and Sylencia responded to Marv's "suspicion on me".

Sylencia's and Hapa's responses both have completely different mentalities when it comes to handling discussion:

On February 25 2013 06:57 Hapahauli wrote:
Ok this is getting nowhere.

@ Cora
On February 25 2013 05:17 cDgCorazon wrote:
On February 25 2013 05:03 marvellosity wrote:
yeah I'll talk about it more after dinner. I don't like Corazon already.


If you've ever seen any of my other games, you'll find that no one ever likes me...


Let's not start with the "woe is me" attitude. Why did people not like you in your previous games, and what are you going to do about it this game?



On February 25 2013 07:05 Sylencia wrote:
On February 25 2013 05:17 cDgCorazon wrote:
On February 25 2013 05:03 marvellosity wrote:
yeah I'll talk about it more after dinner. I don't like Corazon already.


If you've ever seen any of my other games, you'll find that no one ever likes me...


Because of your piss poor attitude when things don't go exactly the way you want it to.


The big difference that I see between Hapa's response and Syl's response is that Hapa is trying to stimulate discussion and promote a good environment where we can all improve, whereas Syl is trying to rub salt in old wounds and is baiting me to argue with him on this.

I'm not taking the bait Syl. Nice try.



Why have people not trusted me in previous games? Because I have said stupid stuff and did little to look pro-town (if I was town). In all honesty I always find the opening parts of Mafia hard and my first post was pretty evident of that. At least you guys know that I am not lurking/have an actual heartbeat.


I'm not trying to start an argument. I'm simply stating it as is. If I wanted to argue with you about it, I would've done it days ago in the NMM thread, but I didn't because I honestly don't care that much. The only thing which annoyed me is that it felt like you were trying to get sympathy from others because of how others think of you.


Dude I'm not expecting pity from anyone. I was mostly referencing the fact that I have a hard time getting people to think I'm town (which I just explained above) in multiple games (especially last game where the whole obs QT wanted to lynch me).

Don't try to make it an issue. Right now what you're saying is "I don't want to make an argument, but here is my point again". It's contradictory.

And if you were not trying to make it an issue, don't be such a dick with your word choice.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 25 2013 00:27 GMT
#167
On February 25 2013 08:57 Hapahauli wrote:
Corazon, I get the impression that you're more concerned with calling Sylencia a dick rather than anything else. It's fine if you don't get along with him, but it does nothing for town objectives.


He's trying to drag me into a shit-fest with him that will only create chaos, which we don't need. I'm not trying to call him a dick, I'm just calling him out on his post.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 25 2013 00:30 GMT
#170
On February 25 2013 09:10 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 07:54 cDgCorazon wrote:
On February 25 2013 07:50 yamato77 wrote:
So do you think Sylencia is mafia for it, Cora?

Is it scummy for him to do what you point out? You left out any comment on his alignment.


Sarcastic responses aside, it's a scummy move but it is only one post. He's still a null read.
If I think he is scum somewhere down the line, I'll let you all know.


Why do you feel him being angry at you for past games is a "scummy move"?


I think it's scummy because he's trying to drag our focus away from the real discussion by trying to start an argument with me about things that have little relation to this game.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 25 2013 00:38 GMT
#176
On February 25 2013 09:34 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 09:31 Acrofales wrote:
On February 25 2013 09:12 yamato77 wrote:
That's so absurdly dumb and wrong I am almost certain you're mafia.

All I've said the whole time is that I don't think it's going to work, and that I'll be there to fix the problem if it doesn't.

Many times I have said I am not messing with the policy itself unless I feel like it isn't working.

What about that is so difficult to understand, Acro?


On February 25 2013 06:47 yamato77 wrote:
On February 25 2013 06:46 Hapahauli wrote:
On February 25 2013 06:39 yamato77 wrote:
What you're proposing is a policy, and one that is insanely difficult to enforce.

I understand how having one town looking player duel one mafia looking player might stagnate discussion after the duel. I do think I will be able to extract enough information from the selection period to make a good lynch decision on my own, however, should town fail to implement you guy's plan effectively.


Hence the policy I proposed earlier.

@ Marv
On February 25 2013 05:03 marvellosity wrote:
yeah I'll talk about it more after dinner. I don't like Corazon already.


Can you expand on Cora?

Policies are bad, because no one ever follows them and even if you do, it's a fucking policy and there's no discussion.

Hapa you're not this retarded.


This is pretty obviously NOT saying you think the policy is fine, but needs a backup plan. In fact, you call the policy bad, say there won't be discussion from it and call Hapa retarded for being in favour of the policy.

Which one is it?

Hapa's backup policy was bad, because it implied an immediate lynch candidate for breaking the plan that no one would end up following.

I have said multiple times that Marv's plan is a good one if town is compliant. The problem I have said, also many times, is that town is not always compliant, even if/when Marv is town. Are you just not reading?


Yamato, why are you saying that we should all trust your scumhunting skills and let you duel everyone we think is scum, and then turn around and say that town will not always comply to everything that is said.

You were being so stubborn on the fact that others don't want you to go gung-ho and do all of the scumhunting for us, and now you are being stubborn on the fact that Marv's plan relies on town being compliant. Doesn't town compliance work in the same what for your desired approach to the game as well?
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 25 2013 00:38 GMT
#177
EBWOP: In the same way
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 25 2013 00:42 GMT
#179
On February 25 2013 09:41 yamato77 wrote:
I'm done talking about this stupid fucking setup shit. I'm lynching mafia, even if town fucks off. That's the gist of my posting. If you don't like it, I really don't care anymore.


We need to work as a team if we want to win. I trust in your ability to scumhunt, just not enough where I will sheep on you and don't do anything for the whole game. I'm sure others would agree with this as well.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 25 2013 00:44 GMT
#181
On February 25 2013 09:43 yamato77 wrote:
Cora is mafia.

Discuss.


Yamato is trying to change the subject and slink into the shadows.

Discuss.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 25 2013 01:13 GMT
#207
On February 25 2013 09:46 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 09:44 cDgCorazon wrote:
On February 25 2013 09:43 yamato77 wrote:
Cora is mafia.

Discuss.


Yamato is trying to change the subject and slink into the shadows.

Discuss.

Notice the difference between my post and yours?

I have the balls to call you mafia, yet this is the millionth time you've insinuated that someone is scummy yet not called them scum.


Well if you're going to call me mafia (and call Marv mafia), you're going to need some sort of proof that implies that you are not jumping to conclusions.

Attacking your desired approach to the game (which is different from attacking you ) is far from proof.

If you expect me to think someone is scum based off of 1-2 posts, you are expecting way too much out of anyone here. The fact that you are trying to piggyback on momentum already started by others just because you are tired of talking about something is scummy. That doesn't make me 100% positive you are scum though.

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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 25 2013 01:22 GMT
#214
On February 25 2013 10:16 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 10:13 cDgCorazon wrote:
On February 25 2013 09:46 yamato77 wrote:
On February 25 2013 09:44 cDgCorazon wrote:
On February 25 2013 09:43 yamato77 wrote:
Cora is mafia.

Discuss.


Yamato is trying to change the subject and slink into the shadows.

Discuss.

Notice the difference between my post and yours?

I have the balls to call you mafia, yet this is the millionth time you've insinuated that someone is scummy yet not called them scum.


Well if you're going to call me mafia (and call Marv mafia), you're going to need some sort of proof that implies that you are not jumping to conclusions.

Attacking your desired approach to the game (which is different from attacking you ) is far from proof.

If you expect me to think someone is scum based off of 1-2 posts, you are expecting way too much out of anyone here. The fact that you are trying to piggyback on momentum already started by others just because you are tired of talking about something is scummy. That doesn't make me 100% positive you are scum though.


I never called Marv mafia.

You did indeed attack me in the post I quoted by insinuating I was scummy, but you never said "scum" or "mafia".

I do expect you to take stances. That's how you play the game.


I do apologize, it was Acro that you called scum.

Yes, you should expect me to take stances. However, you should also expect me to take stances based off of logic and reasoning after analyzing more than 1-2 posts. If you want to play paranoid and call out every single person who disagrees with you as scum, you're just being a liability to the town.

You're trying to say that my initial attack was after you tried to shift the spotlight from you to me, when in fact it was me disagreeing with your points and your desired way to play the game.

On February 25 2013 09:42 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 09:41 yamato77 wrote:
I'm done talking about this stupid fucking setup shit. I'm lynching mafia, even if town fucks off. That's the gist of my posting. If you don't like it, I really don't care anymore.


We need to work as a team if we want to win. I trust in your ability to scumhunt, just not enough where I will sheep on you and don't do anything for the whole game. I'm sure others would agree with this as well.


Do you really think I'm calling you scum here? I'm not.

Having an itchy trigger finger is not going to help us in this game. I suggest you get off your high horse and try to be a asset to the town, not a liability.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 25 2013 01:29 GMT
#218
On February 25 2013 10:24 marvellosity wrote:
hey Corazon, who would you kill right now if you had to, who isn't called Sylencia


Right now, I would kill Yamato because he looks like he is going to go rogue the whole game and not listen to us at all.

He's also expecting me to have scum reads 6-7 pages into the game and expecting every post I make to be an attack on someone. He changed the subject to put the focus on my lack of scum reads this early in the game (sheeping on your notion earlier that I was being wishy-washy, it's an unoriginal argument which is really scummy seeing as there's been so little discussion).

Basically, he wants the thread to be like the "Reign of Terror" from the French Revolution. I'm pretty sure that is not necessary for us to catch the scum.

A close second is Adam who has displayed the same desire to go rogue but hasn't been as abrasive.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 25 2013 01:31 GMT
#220
On February 25 2013 10:28 iamperfection wrote:
the answer is snarfs or dino man corazon.


Don't pressure me into making an answer that you want. I can think for myself, thank you very much.

Snarfs' first post a bit scummier than Dinoman's is. Do you expect everyone to be 100% convinced about the scum team this early on in the game as well?
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