TL Mafia LIX

On January 20 2013 21:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont feel confident lynching JieXian off 2 posts...
He has expressed delight in 2 players for mayor and hasnt expanded or anything. Regardless, Isnt it quick to vilify him so quickly?

On January 21 2013 05:43 gonzaw wrote:
Speaking of those, 5's first post is somewhat suspicious:



First statement in the whole game and it's just to cast doubt on someone random from the thread. Of course not mentioning the unfounded vote on austin...which to be honest is more of a null tell than scum tell since I can't really see much benefit to do so as scum, other than the usual "create chaos/wifom" strategy.

On January 21 2013 08:08 Mocsta wrote:
Hmmm tough.

I agree on chezinu. He needs to input more to the thread. I was expecting a lot more from him considering the reputation and kneepad job debears gave.

But i dont like at all voting austin off that 1post. To me either u fling your vote with wild abandon .or. Know something special i dont.. Cause for concern either way.

Having said that. I liked austinmcc answers to my questions BUT this came after you voted.

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fivetouch
The other strong candidate .at least in toads eyes. Is gonzaw.
Assuming both are town. Whose reasonings so far are u going to stick with for a vote
and why..

On January 21 2013 08:19 Toadesstern wrote:

well you're paying attention, so wouldn't mind voting you...
Although I don't like giving away the kind of information you're giving away right now because it opens up all possibilities of being manipulated, but that's fine with me right now. You seem like you know what you're doing.

Can I convince you to run for mayor? :p

On January 21 2013 08:21 Oatsmaster wrote:




Explain how Sandro's answer is scummy and yours not so?

On January 21 2013 08:26 Toadesstern wrote:

You know, that stuff about austin / my post. If you keep on telling mafia that kind of stuff they know how to pull strings on you which is the reason I'd rather have people keep that to themselves and why I never mentioned it / why I keep telling people to not talk about townreads.

I find it hard to stay unaffected when everyone knows what I'm building my (town-)reads on.

On January 21 2013 08:56 DearestSnot wrote:
Your rule is the one that the first person to call you scum is scum? I actually don't remember.

I'd be down to kill Oats. You guys wanna elect me to mayor? I'll lynch Oats or prplhz. I'm going to ignore any mayoral candidates who have no intention of lynching into those two.

FT would you be down with that? If so, we should run for mayor together, and then we can take mayor/sheriff.

On January 21 2013 09:09 austinmcc wrote:
Just to make sure I've got this bit entirely correct, do you also find JX scummy, or just Oats here?

On January 21 2013 09:30 austinmcc wrote:
I guess the above isn't a full thought. If you don't consider Chezinu a candidate for mayor, I think you're being silly. He's a risky pick because he could be scum and he doesn't seem particularly readable before the election ends, plus he might just be chezinu as mayor, but in a vacuum he's a solid mayor candidate and you shouldn't write him off.

On January 21 2013 09:31 DearestSnot wrote:
GM, fivetouch or whomever you are:

read this.



Now, what did prplhz say in his first post?

I will lynch Chezinu, non negotiable. That was the fourth post following the daypost, and Chezinu hadn't even posted yet.

Secondly, compared to his most recent games, the ones I'm looking at are Pick your Poison and GSL Open, Dwarf Mini, etc. my initial impression is that he seems to be following more his mafia style than his town style. As town he quickly starts looking to kill scum. He asks questions as both alignments, but he doesn't solely ask questions as town. He also does some of his own work, and his questions are at the very least aligned toward accomplishing something. I don't see that here.

In addition to that, he delurked right when I called him out, and has done nothing to actually indicate that he is interested in killing scum, or even electing a mayor who would kill scum.

I looked over XLVII (the massive shitfest game where he was scum) but he seemed to post a lot more fluff there and as far as I can remember he played scum quite differently there than he did in other games.

On January 21 2013 09:39 austinmcc wrote:
I don't like writing someone off as unreadable. It's so lazy to just say "Chez hard to read and silly" and completely ignore the "Chez often has very, very good reads" aspect.

He's got enough upside if he's town and in the mayor position that it's worth considering him and trying to read him.

On January 21 2013 10:29 yamato77 wrote:

For no reason.

You don't think vivax is scummy for the post I pointed out? Why not?

On January 21 2013 09:47 prplhz wrote:
when no one has posted chezinu is clearly the best lynch. the guy is a lunatic in more ways than i care to know about and most importantly, he never seems very occupied with anything but himself and his lunacy and this makes for bad reads on him. if you don't want to get read then i believe it's a lot harder to play with you and chezinu is one of these (maybe the only one).

why would i "delurk" when you call me out but not when sandroba called me out? that makes no sense, sandroba is SANDROBA and you're just some german with a low post count. it makes a lot more sense that i was just around at that particular time especially considering that it was around 6pm iirc.

no i'm not worrying too much about who to lynch right now. i read gonzaw and he seems like a perfectly good mayor candidate to me and the scum reads i have are pretty i'm not sure about them at all. that's why i asked who he wanted to lynch, so i could read up on that person. i don't see the JX thing that sandro sees.

i don't really care for you irrationally going for me because i seem to recall that you do that i most of your games. i think it's really weird that you're not spamming more though but maybe that's because you were smurfing and you didn't want to play like you usually do, you picked it up after you revealed yourself.

On January 21 2013 10:58 sandroba wrote:
@FT i'm actually kinda torn on that post, the way it's written it looks a bit sincere and from stream of thought. I agree the content is poor, but his latest games prpl has been kind of angry mode.

On September 18 2012 08:54 prplhz wrote:

Yea I had just queue a game of DotA2 when you posted it and then I decided that I would rather see how it other people reacted before shooting it down.

I don't really get the first argument. You are saying that my first posts are similar in my scum games, this doesn't make me scum. Then you argue that the first posts themselves have a distinct scummy agenda which is very disputable but more importantly, do you really think that any scum feel the need to push any agenda in their first post? I think that my first post is townie, I think that for all of those scum games you posted. At least the content is townie. Not everything scum posts is scummy.

As for the "He's not quick to vote", no that's right, I didn't vote yet during the first 30 minutes of the game. I think it's a very thin argument that I should be scum because of that. I think I like to play both styles styles of "aggressive" and "careful and prodding" as town, I guess it all depends on what mood I am in.

Anyway, I think your case on me looks townie and with everything else you've posted I'm pretty confident that you're town.

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austinmcc, I thought this guy looked really scummy up until this post. It's especially his explanation of that single word "OBVIOUS" that seems very townie to me. It looks like he really thought carefully about my alignment and didn't consider covering his own ass or anything like that. I like that. Townie for now.

Mementoss is a little harder. I think he just voted me because I posted a dumb picture and corrected his grammar. That can be really antagonizing I hate when people do that to me when I make a dumb little mistake. Overall I've got a townie feeling about him.

marvellosity is pretty shabby for now. Show me some of that "thinky" that you promised before the game.

We also need everybody else to join the game and post some more.

On January 21 2013 11:04 sandroba wrote:
I agree, I just remember some recent game he subbed out where people thought he was scum and he was a bit bitter. It's better if he points it out, i can't recall which one.

On November 01 2012 07:35 prplhz wrote:
okay so everybody joined and then they outed again :/

anyway millers need to claim as soon as possible. if anybody has something else to claim then that's fine too.

also, can we please only say things that we mean this game? i'm sick and tired of people making bullshit cases for dumb and scum to jump on just because they felt it was a good way to get the game started. it's perfectly possible (and in my opinion desirable) to play the game without saying dumb shit you don't really think for the lulz of it. this is kind of like lynch all liars except it doesn't have a fancy name (yet).

On January 21 2013 11:25 Djodref wrote:


Regarding prplhz, I can understand that he wants to lynch Chezinu if he really thinks that Chezinu is unreadable. He didn't like policy lynch in one game, that doesn't make him hating policy lynches forever. Like we say in France, "only stupid people never change their minds".
Also I don't see scum blatantly enter the thread like this, because blending in and flying under the radar is a better strategy in big games I guess.

I didn't like Austin posts at first but he has been extensively open about his thoughts when I asked him a few questions. Also he started to post some content. And I don't disagree with what he posts since.

I could support an Oats lynch by the way, but I'm not sold on a prplhz lynch.

On July 06 2012 21:05 prplhz wrote:
lol marv is scum

##Vote marvellosity

On August 08 2012 05:38 prplhz wrote:
Hey didn't read thread yet can anybody tell me who is scum?

On September 06 2012 05:48 prplhz wrote:
hello

everybody should write something then i'll read it tomorrow evening and tell you who is scum

also can anybody explain to me who ange777 is?

thanks