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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
January 12 2013 16:17 GMT
#5
/in
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
January 12 2013 19:57 GMT
#30
/out
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
January 15 2013 20:47 GMT
#901
Sup have somewhat followed. game Be home in a few hours.

In the mean time you guys better explain why you guys were trying to kill obvious noob town
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
January 15 2013 21:10 GMT
#903
Do you still mantain he is scum?

If he was scum he would have had access to other players in order to coach him. If you look at his posts he is clearly lost and has no clue what he is doing.

Ill have to go back to the vote swaping when I get home because I now know that people were jumping from town to town.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
January 15 2013 22:24 GMT
#923
ill say that i dont believe that is scum slip by lazer i could buy his explanation.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
January 15 2013 22:43 GMT
#932
ya im pretty sure lazer is town.

Kush mini filter looks pretty townie to me with him being overall suspicios and i really liked this post by kush
On January 13 2013 12:40 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 12:35 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 13 2013 12:34 kushm4sta wrote:
hapa you aren't acting townie. You are actively pushing logical falsehoods for some reason and I don't get why. A more spammy version of the dumb or scum conundrum.

I'm just pointing out how your logic is bad. ---->I was useless as scum, i'm useless right now, therefore I must be scum.
Bad reasoning.. one example of many in the thread so far.

@hapa are you saying stupid shit just because you like to talk a lot? why are you using bad logic?


Is your play pro-town right now, true or false?

dumb question

@thrawn I didn't even read his filter and come to that conclusion. I just remember it from reading through the thread. I will find examples tho inc.


Poining out that hapa should know that kush always looks somewhat anti town just because of his personality and that hapa should be trying to figure out his alignment not caring wehter kush is "antitown" or not.

Plus i like that lazer hasn't run away after his supposed "scumslip" and has tried to explain it to the best of his ability. I especially like that he wants to be judged by his "play" rather than his scum slip because i think he knows his play overall is townie because he is in fact town

so i would not want to lynch lazer.

still reading
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
January 15 2013 22:45 GMT
#933
ebwop pointing out that ....
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
January 15 2013 23:03 GMT
#939
On January 16 2013 07:59 thrawn2112 wrote:
it's not a scumslip. what happened is that LM thought that he had been caught in a scumslip, and then lied to try and make the 'scumslip' not seem like a scumslip. his attitude towards super doesn't make sense either

what do you mean just because he was somewhat friendly to his scum read. Thats pretty weak thrawn.

Hell in liquid city i talked openly to confirmed scum in the thread as town.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
January 15 2013 23:19 GMT
#944
On January 16 2013 08:11 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2013 08:03 iamperfection wrote:
On January 16 2013 07:59 thrawn2112 wrote:
it's not a scumslip. what happened is that LM thought that he had been caught in a scumslip, and then lied to try and make the 'scumslip' not seem like a scumslip. his attitude towards super doesn't make sense either

what do you mean just because he was somewhat friendly to his scum read. Thats pretty weak thrawn.

Hell in liquid city i talked openly to confirmed scum in the thread as town.


Or he just misread it. While i think is reply is not mean in anyway. I dont find it scummy to talk civilly to players regardless of there alignment.

And Iamperfection (ziggler) can you give your thoughts on (grush,Xatalos)

i havent looked that closely but xatalos made a some posts i liked.

Especially this one

On January 15 2013 04:17 Xatalos wrote:
Unrelated to the topics at hand, but Sloosh, did you forget about me? You made your entrance to the thread by posting a big case on me, I posted a big reply, and you ignored it. It seems like you went after Prom and forgot what you said about me. What's the deal?


Seem's to me that with this post he is seeking some attention and is trying to figure out alignments. Seems pretty townie to me in that he wants his voice heard and is digging for more information on sloosh.

as for grush i have nothing to say.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
January 16 2013 00:39 GMT
#955
On January 16 2013 09:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
##vote slOosh

This vote is not moving until you give me your scumreads and reasons.

If I do not believe you, then you will die today.

so wait a second from going through your filter you had a town read on sloosh but since super fliped town you now think sloosh is scum because of that?

Why?

I'm not understanding your thinking one bit since you said sloosh was an auto town read im not getting the connection. What has sloosh done that is scummy in your mind?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
January 16 2013 00:59 GMT
#957
On January 16 2013 09:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
auto townread = I almost didn't bother carefully reading their posts.

One thing I kept in my head about slOosh was that he had two pushes, Prom and Xatalos. He dropped Xatalos rather quickly and outside of those two players he has had no comments on anything. His push on Prom was also pretty bad.

There has to be a reason super died. Super was the only person who had a public scumread on slOosh. Outside of that he called Lazer scum and he called Zentor scum.

I think slOosh needs to do something though, because if you haven't noticed, he's been laying a bit lower than what I'd feel if he were town.

oh i see i thought auto town read meant he bleeds strong green.

i agree with you he has been sitting back and his one real "contribution" was his big case early on which he didnt do much with.


@sloosh

What do you think of xaltos now?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
January 16 2013 02:46 GMT
#964
On January 16 2013 10:58 slOosh wrote:
Might as well come out with it all.

I planned on testing out my read of WBG by presenting my read on hopeless. I think hopeless is scum, and wanted to push him today and gauge WBG's reactions accordingly, especially since it seemed WBG was showing, what I perceive as, some unwarranted leniency to hopeless. Of course this is something characterized under tone, feel etc. which is why I wanted to see his response to better gauge it.

I will now field any and all questions.

what did you expect his reactions to be with each alignment?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
January 16 2013 03:27 GMT
#976
@ hapa

I like your case on hopeless and your right this doesn't look like the town hopeless in mario mini where he for better or worse went right into the fire with his reads. A lot more poking in this game and not that fire we usally see from hopeless.

I will wait untill he responds though before i vote

want to see what he has to say.

-----------------------------------------------------------------

As for other scum reads sloosh hasn't really done anything this game and i dont really buy that he was going to push hopeless just to figure wbg seems like a flawed process to me.

Also i dont like how he never mentioned the kid i replaced at all since that was a major event in thread it seems.


im gonna sleep on it though see if i can find something more in the morning.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
January 16 2013 15:29 GMT
#995
@ hapa

Why do you have a strong town read on Mr. Zentor based on meta when he said before the game he was changing his style. When i read his filter i dont see many town like traits.

He shirked his vote responsibility when he voted prom.
He hasnt pushed many scum reads at all,
He keeps screaming meta as his defense when he said before the game he would change it

@ Hopeless

You said people had their votes in scummy places can you be more specific on the who and the why.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
January 16 2013 19:45 GMT
#1047
On January 17 2013 04:44 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 04:40 slOosh wrote:
On January 17 2013 04:38 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 17 2013 04:33 slOosh wrote:
Three scum? Where does it say that?


It's a C9++ setup. There are almost always 3 scum in C9++

Have you ever seen a 13 player game with a number other than 3 scum?

Yea my first game ever, hosted by Qatol and dreamflower.


Seriously? Geez that's imbalanced as fuck.

Less town roles
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
January 16 2013 19:51 GMT
#1050
On January 17 2013 04:47 slOosh wrote:
My point is that trying to figure out the whole scum team when we don't even have concrete OP information on the number of scum is a futile exercise, of which more harm will come than good.

Oh I thought you were subtly implying people who are assuming 3 scum are scum.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
January 16 2013 22:14 GMT
#1081
why are we trying to make associations before a flip?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
January 16 2013 23:08 GMT
#1085
i have read the thread again lets kill sloosh

i think he is full of shit

## Vote Sloosh
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
January 16 2013 23:40 GMT
#1086
and can someone talk to me in a back in forth basis i find easier to figure things out if some is here with me actively talking about the game asking me questions and what not.

Ill be back in an hour.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
January 17 2013 00:57 GMT
#1089
On January 17 2013 09:08 Hopeless1der wrote:
Question the first:
Why did Hapa vote for Ruuch?

Question the second:
Why did I vote for Ruuch?



@Lamp: Do you find my read of you suspicious, based on the posting, and circumstances surrounding the replacement, of Ruuch? By which I mean, do you think it is conceivable that I would arrive at a townread of you based on the limited information available?

from outside the thread i thought it was pretty obvious that ruuch was super noob town

like here
On January 15 2013 09:24 Ruuch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 09:07 Hapahauli wrote:
Welp. Sorry prome =/
Ruuch, you need to tell us why that was not a scumclaim.


A quick google-search tells me that "scumclaim" is when a scum player basically admits defeat and reveals that they're scum, is that right? (I really dislike the use of the word "scum" in this context, but I suppose theres not much I can do to change everyones old habits)

I assume you're referring to my "hornets nest" post. If so, could you elaborate a little, since I don't see how that's a scumclaim. I was simply thinking out loud about. Hornets in this case being experienced mafia players in general.


i can see why people voted for him though but i think calmer heads should have eventuall lead to a town read. so i can see why you got an eventual townread
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