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Is the bulletproof SK notified of being shot?
Are you willing to reveal your modifications in detail? You may recall the explosive setup speculation from Mario Mini, I'm trying to reduce the longevity of that potential discussion.
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/in Is the bulletproof SK notified of being shot? Are you willing to reveal your modifications in detail? You may recall the explosive setup speculation from Mario Mini, I'm trying to reduce the longevity of that potential discussion. | ||
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On January 13 2013 08:54 supersoft wrote: ... nonono that doesnt sound well. I want you to say: "I am town" Don't lie to me. dude do that via PM. No pointless talk in this game. I am town. I will also be afk for the next couple hours while I attend a family function. I'll check in when I get home. | ||
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On January 13 2013 10:00 grush57 wrote: Well atleast I'm getting attention this game. (From phone) Wrong answer grush ##vote: grush57 | ||
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Jay explain the Random push please | ||
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On January 13 2013 10:22 Hapahauli wrote: Woah woah woah waoh. @ Hopeless I'm still waiting for you to explain why you think Grush is scum. You said he "didn't make the correct answer," but exactly what type of answer would you expect from a "town" Grush in that situation? Especially to a random early-game accusation of all things? Telling you would be like locking the key inside the padlock. I find grush to be ungrushlike and I think its scummy. Kinda sucks that thrawn finds out issue with that, but I'll be putting an explanation together when I'm back at a computer. I could also be talking out of my ass because I snapped at something from memory, but again I'll explain at the latest in 14ish hours depending on how tired i am when i get home. | ||
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On January 13 2013 10:29 grush57 wrote: Okay, I am scum because I am useful, or I am scum because of meta. But the only time I was scum was when I lurked. ? And Jay put in his post so we have something to talk about. Hopeless is scum yo. ##Vote: Hopeless1der First, I'm no longer convinced of my scumread, but here's my explanation for my reasoning. That thing I recalled from memory was austinmcc's breakdown of town-grush vs scum-grush in PTP3 (spoilered for length): + Show Spoiler + On August 30 2012 05:05 austinmcc wrote: A Tale of Two Grushes Grush - LV Day 1 involves a mayor/pardoner vote. Grush is pretty active during that day. Some one liners, some longer posts, but actual thoughts. See? Look at that. Like a page of filter off the bat, with some real stances. Grush open being poked at by Toad, over a potential scumslip: Look at this conversation with Toad. Toad initially points out an inconsistency in the number of scum, says Grush might be scum because he counted only 5 scum in a game that had 6 (indicating he might have 5 buddies). Grush gives actual responses, discusses it just being a typo. Doesn't just discuss himself either, but notes the lurkers, has counted posts, and says where he thinks mafia might be hiding. Grush will occasionally call some folks scummy - + Show Spoiler + On May 30 2012 11:19 grush57 wrote: I nominate Kenpachi for the lynch. He is playing his scum meta. Last game, he was inactive and he turned out to be scum. He's putting in less effort than Sinesis who got lynched. All of his posts are one liner's except for one which he makes a list, which is something a scum usually does(I learned that from a real vet.) I ACCUSE YOU, KENPIKACHU! On May 30 2012 11:48 grush57 wrote: I'm being mean Kenpachi, you're a pretty cool dude, I'm sorry :"(. There have been rumors, starting in LIV. That I have, mystical powers. They rarely unleash. This, is a special case. (LOL YEAH I JUST MADE A LIST WHEN I SAID MAKING LISTS ARE SCUMMY DEAL WITH IT) You would except him to pick 1-2 vets 2-3 normals and 2-3 noobs right 1.(The smart, cunning godfather) Mr.Wiggles(1 vet down) He posts long, too long to read. He knows better than to lynch someone with no information. I also heard he is pretty good at mafia. If you look at his posts, only a page and there is a lot of indecisiveness in his posts. 2.(The undeserving vet)Mattchew(MAKE IT 1.5) His trap, was actually a trap to get a townie to question him and to get an easy peasy day2 town lynch. He was also lurking and he is a vet common bro you are better. 3.(The bigshot normal)StrongandBig(Pewpew 1)Im running for mayor, jk, no seriously. Et, no gf Mr.Wiggles.Buss my buddy gambit. 4.(Deh studious lurker)Gambitxc32(1(forduhnubs)) I can imagine the qt now(YO GAMBIT MY MAN U GONNA LURK CUZ ALL DEEZ NUBZ ARE LURKING LOL, THO WHEN THEY FIGURE THAT ME, WIGGZ, IS GF U GOTTA VOTE ET SO WE DON'T LOOK CONNECTED)## Studious VOTE: agree. Oh and yeah he is a lurker and was scared of wbg getting on his case and went for him. He obviously is paying attention to game responding to jaj(?) post asking him about stuff or w/e lol. 5.(idk actually, lets say normal)Zealos(yeah were about quick to lynch someone who is town(LOL THEY DONT KNWO THAT I KNOW WHO IS TOWN) aww yeah towncred(like they were actually gonna lynch toad lol such easy cred town fools) Better lurk it up you know, be scummy and put no effort LOL wtf zealos. 6.papapanda or... Manason. When Kenpachi(♥) mentioned him I was like, holy shit these town nubs let another scum hide, brbbbb gotta check dem filter and this took a long time to post and I saw that you put starsenses. Now, I think you might say that or w\e because u think I'll mislead them, but no i am a wizard. Basically, he was doing a bunch of a lil commenting on people not on my starsense list saying bs, less than a page of filter, however he commented on my starsenses so I love him and probly not mafia. Manason- MMK CHECKED HIS FILTER 3RD PAGE-DONT LYNCH GRUSH POLICY LYNCHES ARE BAD. Okay, someone in your QT played LIV and knew how I screwed up town and told everyone to not lynch me so I'd screw up the game. All the people who wanted me dead early game was town(Sinesis and Bh) Noob mistake of saying(ooh protect my gf Mr. Wiggles) more 1 liners blah blah blah too long, OMG YOU GUYS ARE ON MY BUDDY LETS BRING UP KITAMAN27. No, he made the same mistake as me in LIV, randomly voted someone. My starsense powers sais he is town. Okay so I did all this in TL (LOL I KNOW) and the thread has probably progressed alot as this took like 20-30 mins to write. Please note I am unsure about the 6th mafia. Oh, and a lot of the bad grammar was on purpose. But he won't really back those accusations up - + Show Spoiler + On May 30 2012 12:04 grush57 wrote: Sigh majuju, you were lurking too and now that I called out your buddy you finally unlurked. LOL SERIOUSLY TOWN NUBS STAR TPOSTING asdaSDFASDFA. Okay, I will bring up the posts. Actually just read them too much work lol. On June 02 2012 04:33 grush57 wrote: Why don't you ask the scum that question? But really, its obvious who is town and who is scummy on that list of who voted. On the whole, including pregame banter and postgame, a little over 4 pages, and he died N2. Grush - LVI Grush's D1 - Here! Game starts somewhere in the middle. Way less contribution. When he does post, it's agreeing with someone, or little one liners, followed by just a vote on a wagon target. When Grush gets poked, he responds with one-liners - + Show Spoiler + Plenty of others but that's enough Scumgrush makes "cases," but they're just kind of weak accusations, or nonsense - + Show Spoiler + On July 04 2012 03:46 grush57 wrote: Grush was sitting in the tent. Vivax was walking in with a angry crowd behind him ridiculing him about his bad performance. His excuses were very bad, said the crowd, and that HIS LOGIC FAILS. Grush agreed. ##Vote: Vivax On July 07 2012 07:35 grush57 wrote: T_T definitely between Twelve and BKE though. Kurumi's post does really point out the flaws of BKE, and when pressure came off he was all beepin up the beep, ya know. BUT u may b like, GURSHDEVICE U DON'T HELP AT ALL. True, homeieieieieieieiieieeieieieieieiei, but it doesn't change the fact. aLZo, 11, __, 13 seems like a noobie townie. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ##Vote:BKE On July 13 2012 01:38 grush57 wrote: I want to lynch Majuju. all dat lurking and then when called out he is getting all freaky(in the wrong way mmkay) ##Vote: MajuGarzett On the whole, including pregame banter and postgame, a not quite 4 full pages of filter. Lived until endgame, which was the end of D4. So, based only on two games and nothing else, what patterns do we see in Grush's play?
PokeGrush PokeGrush's filter is a decent bit over 4 pages, after 3 full cycles (And he spent part of it banned) He starts off responding to questions - + Show Spoiler + On August 20 2012 09:00 Mr. Wiggles wrote: How have you done that? Also, in keeping with the spirit of the thread, spam spam spam On August 20 2012 09:02 grush57 wrote: See look at wiggles, he asks me a legit question. Plus, he continues my tradition  To answer the question, breadcrumb, and meta. Plus I'm town. Now, we must find scum. I must stop posting so scum can start posting and then we catch them. Cool trick. On August 22 2012 11:39 grush57 wrote: Well I mean he's posting cases and defending himself and contributing. I don't know why he was the closest to being lynched. On August 24 2012 02:28 grush57 wrote: Well, half his posts are before the game, and he just is basically lurking and not helping. In scum teams in my experience, you have 2-3 active in the thread, and 1-2 basically lurking Toad and chezinu died, I feel like there is only one major player in the thread that is scum atm. Also dirk may be scum aswell, before his posts were useless and now he just lurks. He gives some reads, with...some reasoning - + Show Spoiler + On August 22 2012 10:55 grush57 wrote: Okay so, I get banned, then People are all up in Drazerk's face because he is telling everybody to kill him and being stupid with that attitude. Still, I think he is town. Then the town switched to Dirkzor, I don't think he is scum either, he is helping out and responding. Hopeless1dr ninja votes, he is scum. People calling out Kurumi for being scummy, I agree. Toad(jk, lol idk) shoots VE, people get on VE's chain for policy lynching. NO ONE IS UP IN JINGLE'S GRILL ABOUT HIM WANTING TO POLICY LYNCH ME:O. Also I think Hiropro? Heist? made a post calling out Jingle which is good cuz he is scum. Then it's like Zephirrid(null on him, he has been getting scummier the longer the game has been going so far) and imallison(who I thought was a noob townie) and dirkzor(I think he is town aswell). End up lynching a townie and thats about where we were at. So my scum list is: JingleHell(SCUMSCUMSCUM) Hopeless1dr(ninja vote, scum) Maybe BioSC(I don't even know why but he is scum) He engages in minor discussion - + Show Spoiler + On August 22 2012 11:03 grush57 wrote: lol. no. You're assuming he's playing differently because he got butthurt. I'm saying that your scum. Different things On August 25 2012 06:49 grush57 wrote: Jingle, you don't answer to any of the cases against you, you keep bandwagoning on the townies!!!!!!!!!!! You call me scum because I'm actually playing this time?!?!?!?1?!!??!?1?1?1!/1?1?1!?1?1 However when commenting on VE's play you said he wanted to play differenty and give him the benefit brohan. Which is me questioning VE being town right now. But all the vets aren't trying, the one who did was BC and he died, and Wiggles is playing the EXACT same way he did as scum before. When I played with WBG before and he was town he was very active, and Kenpachi could be town or scum because he is Kenpachi. **I doctored this quote because it was split into two posts** I could keep pulling more stuff from this game, but now I want to do something else. So instead, you should read this. You should come to your own conclusions. But if you think Grush is scum, you need some decent reasoning. Because it looks to me like he's playing much more like he did in LV than in LVI. It looks to me like there are some actual helpful posts buried in the trolling. D2 I didn't think hopeless1der was scum, but I didn't fight it hard enough, had just entered the game. D3 I didn't think VE was scum, and I should have swapped my vote from Wiggles to misder in order to try and get a switch at the end. D4 I don't think Grush is scum, and it's time to actually stand up and fight his lynch, early. I do not want scum having control of this one. The jist of what was relevant to me was that scum-grush is rather flippant when accused, just like his response to Thrawn this game. In addition, grush' towncrumb is 100% accurate afaik, so I was kind of baiting for that as well. He's completely self-aware of this fact, but its probably no longer useful because I'm using it to explicitly coerce him now. Since I reinforced my scumread without actually doing anything, he OMGUSed me with the reasoning that I didn't have a legitimate reason for voting him (as quoted above). Grush' activity has little to no bearing on his scumminess to me because in my experience he trolls regardless of alignment. His relative 'usefulness' is different and worth noting but is not alignment indicative. His questions and concern for the game (which is still apparent in troll-mode) are what distinguishes grush from his town/scum selves. What I 'expected' from town-grush was closer to his response to me. His response to Thrawn was dismissive and was really the only reason I had to go after him in the first place. When I accused him, he wanted to know why I thought he was scum, seemed to want to discuss it. He's also spent time reading the thread, or at least it seems that way from his filter. ##Unvote: grush57 | ||
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Your super-awesome-mega-MrZ scumslip was him calling jay town so early? | ||
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On January 13 2013 12:40 kushm4sta wrote: dumb question @thrawn I didn't even read his filter and come to that conclusion. I just remember it from reading through the thread. I will find examples tho inc. Hey kush, do this (the bolded) please. | ||
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On January 14 2013 01:29 thrawn2112 wrote: hopeless can you get to talking about scumreads soon? yes sir, reading thread atm. | ||
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Kush for being flipfloppy as all hell regarding MrZ: + Show Spoiler + On January 13 2013 12:45 kushm4sta wrote: oh shit brb must go on ss' mission. Looking for scumslip On January 13 2013 12:54 kushm4sta wrote: dont see the scumslip at all read his filter twice lol. One day I will win your approval somehow though because I think your name is so awesome. He does look hella scum tho. Defending EVERYONE for no reason. ##vote mrzentor Didn't find scumslip, but wait, still scum. Also, "EVERYONE" On January 13 2013 12:59 kushm4sta wrote: yeah but you defended him from so many different angles that it seemed like separate people. 1 person = EVERYONE!!!! (Note, still scum) On January 13 2013 14:00 kushm4sta wrote: i read his filter twice i thought it was scummy. THEN everyone who knows his meta says he isn't scummy. he doesn't respond scummily. i dont think he's scummy is that explained enough to you? also your name is pronounced shatalos? sorry but this is relevant to me because I like to say it in my head. I guess I can sheep the thread to justify my votes. On January 13 2013 14:01 kushm4sta wrote: second person you defended without cause to. back on my scum list. ATM i woudl lynch. And also his neglecting to followup about Hapa being fallacious, which was promised here: On January 13 2013 12:40 kushm4sta wrote: dumb question @thrawn I didn't even read his filter and come to that conclusion. I just remember it from reading through the thread. I will find examples tho inc. Super has been insanely caught up in pushing MrZentor for his "scumslip", and is now resorting to calling him stupid or bad in order to justify his decision to ignore him. On January 14 2013 01:07 supersoft wrote: It's not going to get us anywhere Zentor. You just stupidly defend yourself. I expected a certain answer and I wanted to follow that up with another line of thoughts, but i see that i cannot work with you. Consequently, I just end our conversation. His response to wbg's question, specifically his talking about Prom being a good catch: On January 13 2013 21:00 supersoft wrote: ahm, agree on Zentor obviously disagree on xatalos right now, slooshs case doesn't convince me. Many pointless questions were asked in this thread. He randomly understands my smilie-pressuring... got to think about him a little. Hopeless vote on grush is terrible, + Show Spoiler + i read grush as town, grushs questions make sense, overall posting look okay, i don't see any signs of scummyness. Prom is a nice catch, i agree on him. His larger post + Show Spoiler + On January 13 2013 20:09 Promethelax wrote: Lol at bugs, I'm scum because I was at work when the game started. Is there some unspoken rule about us not asking grush to give us his town breadcrumb? Because that is all I want from him right now. For those of you who haven't played with Kush assume he is similar to chezinu but without either the class or the ability to find scum. He is a troll who will troll all game long but it Isn't too hard to get a read on. I would like to hear both Hapa and thrawn's opinions of Kush. They know how to read him, as do I. Super, are you town? pointless, i already answered this question in my very first post - he didnt read Zentor, can I expect you to be useful This game or should I put you into the troll column? pointless Jay, what's your read of zentor? Slopsh, opinions on anyone who doesn't have a million point scrabble name. looks extremely scummy, pointless questioning, didn't read the thread properly ...Bugs literally put Prom's name into a list with no supporting arguments and a very vague question. Right now bugs filter is 3 posts. SS's response doesn't feel natural to me. Go back and look at the timing. BUGS' List Prom's first post since the game started SS finding a "good catch" Those posts happened in that order. SS should not have been able to retroactively apply Prom's post to wbg's "scum"read. This post: On January 13 2013 21:25 supersoft wrote: Is also drastically out of place because he's half buddying sloosh while calling him scum and also, Sloosh has never exhibited suspicion towards Zentor, showing SS is not reading the thread. He's kind of trolling I guess? Also, calling Hapa terrible for no reason whatsoever.hapahauli is terrible but he thinks he's great, sloosh is scum. ##vote sloosh sloosh, are you voting zentor with me, if i move my vote away from you? For reference, Sloosh's stance on Zentor: On January 13 2013 15:35 slOosh wrote: super pulled some total bs with his second entry, which happened to coincide when you started your pressure on Xatalos. It's really dangerous to make such connections but the case stands well enough alone that it's something worth considering. ruuch is totally new, and all he has to do is chime in with his most current thoughts now and again and we will all get along. Going after him right now makes no sense to me. I wrote down somewhere hopeless was just echoing something someone else already said, and put down "acting useless". I like grush. Mr Zentor is ok too. And by that I mean, unless someone shows me Xatalos and super is probably not scum, I won't be looking into these guys. On January 13 2013 09:28 supersoft wrote: Okay announcement: Don't talk about pointless SHIT!!! scum loves to talk about pointless stuff. Do when the game is over. Right now we're playing the game and we're not in some kind of off-topic thread! FOCUS!!! Don't let this game end in a mess like the Kurumi game! This post isn't that scummy on the surface, but combined with his smilie bs discussions, seems like he's vying for free townie-points by looking like he's directing the thread. Out of the two, I feel stronger about SS. ##Vote: supersoft | ||
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On January 14 2013 03:53 kushm4sta wrote: wbg that sounds like d1 of every town game i play. i sheep a lot and throw my vote around a lot. I need to reread or look at filters before I can have anything useful to say honestly. Hapa is fallacious. Go. | ||
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@kush, I wasn't asking you to call hapa scum, I was asking you to see whether or not you were just blowing smoke. You say you saw fallacious arguments. Please elaborate. | ||
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On January 13 2013 21:00 supersoft wrote: ahm, agree on Zentor obviously disagree on xatalos right now, slooshs case doesn't convince me. Many pointless questions were asked in this thread. He randomly understands my smilie-pressuring... got to think about him a little. Hopeless vote on grush is terrible, + Show Spoiler + i read grush as town, grushs questions make sense, overall posting look okay, i don't see any signs of scummyness. Prom is a nice catch, i agree on him. His larger post + Show Spoiler + On January 13 2013 20:09 Promethelax wrote: Lol at bugs, I'm scum because I was at work when the game started. Is there some unspoken rule about us not asking grush to give us his town breadcrumb? Because that is all I want from him right now. For those of you who haven't played with Kush assume he is similar to chezinu but without either the class or the ability to find scum. He is a troll who will troll all game long but it Isn't too hard to get a read on. I would like to hear both Hapa and thrawn's opinions of Kush. They know how to read him, as do I. Super, are you town? pointless, i already answered this question in my very first post - he didnt read Zentor, can I expect you to be useful This game or should I put you into the troll column? pointless Jay, what's your read of zentor? Slopsh, opinions on anyone who doesn't have a million point scrabble name. looks extremely scummy, pointless questioning, didn't read the thread properly | ||
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On January 14 2013 17:12 Promethelax wrote: well in that case I am going to bed. I hope some of you will be able to take your heads out of your asses and look at my case on ScumMonkey. Hopeless, when you get back I'd like you to comment on the use of your new policy and if you think it should be applied and why or why not. I'd like comments from everyone by tomorrow on lynching lazer vs lynching Xat. I'd prefer LM (obviously). goodluck town! I'll be in sporadically tomorrow. Thrawn's toeing the line, but hasn't actually tried to push for your lynch yet, so no, not policy worthy. I also agree with your sentiment that Super isn't getting lynched. ##Unvote: supersoft Hey grush!! Remember this? On January 13 2013 10:29 grush57 wrote: Okay, I am scum because I am useful, or I am scum because of meta. But the only time I was scum was when I lurked. ? And Jay put in his post so we have something to talk about. Hopeless is scum yo. ##Vote: Hopeless1der Okay good, now do something about that lurking please. I'm voting Lazermonkey until he justifies why jay is scummy (or finds a proper scumread), because quite frankly he hasn't. He's shown that Jay is playing different than that other time he was town but hasn't shown why he's scum. OMGUS isn't a scumtell if WBG is to be believed, but Lazer puts that on display like its the nail in the coffin. He's scattered his vote and it looks like he's setting up to sheep again when the time comes to consolidate. ##Vote: Lazermonkey | ||
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On January 15 2013 00:29 supersoft wrote: "OMGUS isn't a scumtell if WBG is to be believed" do you ever think for yourself? Evidently no. Please teach me master! | ||
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On January 15 2013 00:32 supersoft wrote: bäh. really. okay. Do you personally think and OMGUS is a scumtell or not. I think things like OMGUS or SCUMSLIP are meaningless banter that clutter the thread. I also think that bugs has both stated his opinion on OMGUS in-thread and that he has no reason to lie about that opinion as scum or as town. This, to me, demonstrates that Lazer either hasn't read the thread very well, he thinks it is a scumtell, or he himself is scum and is using it as a supporting argument. Based on the rest of his (weak) case, I believe Lazer is scum. My apologies for referencing the game itself as the development of my reasoning. | ||
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On January 15 2013 00:41 supersoft wrote: different question though: You and lazer both voted me. You think i am scum with him? kush buddied up with me. You think scum would do that? Not sure where I stand on you. I'm not dealing with associative crap until I see flips. My suspicions on kush had little to do with you, neither does my read on Lazer. I've seen a day 1 bus that lasted multiple cycles, so what scum may or may not do is a waste of time right now. I think Lazer is scummier than you. | ||
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On January 15 2013 01:16 thrawn2112 wrote: do you? Yes, I do your reason for not voting for super was the same as prom's, which was that he's not going to get lynched. Yes, in addition to this point (where I still feel super is scummy), I find that Lazer is more scummy. did the scum qt tell you to switch off of super? I do not have access to the scum qt. Can you explain your comment about thrawn toeing the line? Idk what policy you're referring to Attempting to push a lynch on the merits of "stupid" or "bad" On January 15 2013 01:26 Lazermonkey wrote: Holy FUCK, the more I look at the case, the more I realizehow bad of a case that is, Hopeless. Can YOU explain how the points in your case even makes me scum? Your case is like, ''well Lazermonkey is a monkey and monkeys like bananas, thus Lazermonkey is scum. ''. It does not make any sense what so ever. The fact that SS is sheeping it is blowing my mind in pieces. You are scum for making a shitty case and throwing your vote on an outlier. Even now, you are not supporting your scum read, you are attacking the case against you. Again, this is scummy behavior. | ||
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