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Parallel World Mafia: Chaos of GreY

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slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 11 2012 05:08 GMT
#41
Has the deadline been decided? I think I want to /in. Yea ... I'll tentatively /in
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 11 2012 05:12 GMT
#43
On December 11 2012 14:09 Foolishness wrote:
/in

Haha GreYMisT already signed you up before you signed up
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 11 2012 22:05 GMT
#83
Just to clarify, swap doesn't mean someone from the other world takes their place does it?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 12 2012 05:39 GMT
#156
PW (Parallel World): @Blazinghand
Swapping the most scummiest players on both sides works directly counter to the plan. You are trying to lynch all the scummies from one world and replace them with town. If you swap scummiest from both sides that means you forgo lynching a very scummy candidate in order to lynch a perhaps less scummy candidate from the "town" world.

BW (Both World)
I don't like the plan. As it stands whoever we stands gets 1 cycle of lynch immunity which serves as perpetual distraction to discussion. You pump the "town" world with helpful / active / useful players and the "scum" town will be full of harder to read / inactive / less helpful players. Sure you could shout at them from one world to another but if they can't read one thread they probably can't read.

I think we should just swap players of roughly equal alignment, e.g. swap kinda townie with a kinda townie, to avoid the swap.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 12 2012 05:43 GMT
#157
PW: @yamato77

How does a town decide upon who is most null?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 12 2012 06:24 GMT
#159
That's not the issue randombum. The problem is that though hypothetically swapping nulls is the best way to reduce the effects of the swap, in practice it just doesn't work. Deciding null players is oxymoronic.

I like austin's explanation (sans the mayoral aspect).
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 12 2012 06:30 GMT
#160
Also, lynching scum is first priority. Confirmed town list is useful only in that it helps lynch scum, so any plan involving no lynch is playing catch up from the getgo.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 12 2012 06:49 GMT
#162
PW: yamato77

That's not what I said. I said deciding null players is oxymoronic, because getting a read on a player means concluding that they are more likely town or scum. Lurky / useless people generally tend to be scum and you would be lynching into them anyways, so to look for null players makes no sense. Swapping them is the worst thing to do because it alleviates pressure off of them for a full cycle - if you want mafia to play actively you lynch into them, not swap them.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 12 2012 16:28 GMT
#187
marv what is this?

also, ##Vote: Foolishness
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 12 2012 16:39 GMT
#191
Cool Keir agrees with me. Keir what do you think of Foolishness / players involved with that?

Also, is there a way to subscribe to a thread without posting in it? I don't like having to check other thread manually for new posts.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 12 2012 21:56 GMT
#200
randombum. wat?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 13 2012 02:31 GMT
#248
Why are we suddenly talking about crossfire?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 13 2012 03:18 GMT
#252
I've been waiting to see further development of the whole thing, and was also hoping more people would comment about it.

The initial spat means nothing (or is unsubstantiated by anything meaningful) on both sides. As Palmar says, the only thing worth mentioning is Foolishness' response (or lack thereof). My question is addressing the point that there has been this awkward transition to talking about crossfire - his name was tossed out initially by marv, and strangely echoed by Foolishness. How does that not strike you as strange? Two people butting heads and suddenly all attention is on a bystander?

As for the swap I've said my share and it's iGrok town to decide what they do. We should focus on today's lynch.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 13 2012 03:19 GMT
#253
On December 12 2012 11:50 Dienosore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 09:13 Foolishness wrote:
Okay so we choose someone to lynch here today. If you are in the world where you're not lynching (and voting to swap) you should be voting to swap a person who you think is innocent. Swap powers should be used to get innocent people into the swap world, and mafia into the lynch world.

Presumably we can only vote for people in our world?


---- but then

Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 10:33 Foolishness wrote:
I have plenty of reason. You haven't done anything, you're spamming the thread. And I'm not going to sit here while people derp around with swapping when there's mafia to kill.


Why the flip-floppery Foolish? I told you already my heart couldn't handle any more of it


Are you still voting him for this?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 13 2012 04:39 GMT
#257
On December 13 2012 12:37 Dienosore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 12:19 slOosh wrote:
On December 12 2012 11:50 Dienosore wrote:
On December 12 2012 09:13 Foolishness wrote:
Okay so we choose someone to lynch here today. If you are in the world where you're not lynching (and voting to swap) you should be voting to swap a person who you think is innocent. Swap powers should be used to get innocent people into the swap world, and mafia into the lynch world.

Presumably we can only vote for people in our world?


---- but then

On December 12 2012 10:33 Foolishness wrote:
I have plenty of reason. You haven't done anything, you're spamming the thread. And I'm not going to sit here while people derp around with swapping when there's mafia to kill.


Why the flip-floppery Foolish? I told you already my heart couldn't handle any more of it


Are you still voting him for this?


That is one of the reasons, yes. I've also factored in Marv's meta read on him and how Fool handled it. Also, he hasn't really denied being scum, just sort of has been deflecting the issue by arguing with folks.

Also, my maps show that Fool has absolutely no support from anyone on either world. In fact, he even has some negative vibes from Sandro and Yomato, both of whom I consider to be playing fairly towny at this point.


Now that I've tilted my hand, it's your turn to explain your reason for voting for him.

How is this justification for voting someone? Wouldn't you expect of all people for scum to have some sort of support?

My initial vote on Foolishness was for pressure, not because I thought he was particularly scummy. My vote is still on him cause his response itself is scummy.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 13 2012 04:41 GMT
#259
What do you guys make of marv's ##worship?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 13 2012 05:02 GMT
#270
Hey clarity do you get to vote for lynch and swap each cycle?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 13 2012 16:02 GMT
#309
marv, what does "Dieno is Dieno" mean?

##Vote (GreY): Crossfire99
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 13 2012 18:48 GMT
#319
Pheonix Wright? I got you.

None of Palmar, slOosh or Crossfire99 are anti-town.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 13 2012 18:52 GMT
#320
Keir are you saying that we should make it strictly a scum catch question?
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