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Corazon
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Thanks for giving me the heads up! | ||
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On December 19 2012 10:16 Chromatically wrote: Do you think that lurking is acceptable as town? Do you think that lying is acceptable as town? I think it should be handled on a case to case basis when it comes to lurking. Sometimes it helps when someone just sits back and tries to figure things out instead of discussing every point. If it comes towards the end of the game, maybe the lurker needs to come out of the shadows. However, lying as town is basically team-killing, especially if it gets another townie lynched. However there can be certain circumstances where lying can get a mafia member to lose focus and say something stupid. Thanks for pressing me for an answer I guess, just curious as to why you needed an answer from me =/ | ||
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On December 19 2012 12:17 cDgCorazon wrote: but of course this is my first time on TL Mafia | ||
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Corazon
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If you guys want a better answer to question number 2, you're not going to find it from me. This is my first game of Mafia on TL, and I'm still not sure of the strategies that scum would use to infiltrate the town. If I had to say anything, it would just be acting like the townies, but more cautious of accusations and trying to stay just enough out of the spotlight where they can be an influence on the game, but won't attract too much attention from the town. I've never been one to jump to conclusions, and to vote someone out on Day 1 just by character analysis sounds like a really silly idea to me. I was going to push for a no-lynch vote, but unfortunately when you're being head-hunted, you need to fight back. For this reason: Vote##: Aquanim He was the first one to start the campaign to lynch me, even when there are people who haven't posted at all. If he's already jumping on me, which one of you will be next if you lynch me? He started an environment of head-hunting that is just going to lead to more town lynches, and ultimately a scum victory. Sorry bud, it's self-defense. | ||
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Corazon
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Messed up the placing of the ## | ||
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Corazon
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Spaghettius and Cakepie are both making lists of lurkers and their thoughts on everyone. Maybe it is just me, but it would not seem wise to put your thoughts on everyone on Day 1 unless you were trying to get a town lynched. I have this preconception that we really should not look into posts on Day 1, where there is no pressure, and start looking after someone has been killed and roles have been played. I believe that people's true meaning always comes out under pressure. I was hoping we could be peaceful for the first day, but I guess all is fair in love and war. And sorry if my answers to the opening questions were unsatisfactory, I thought they were just opinion questions, and that our stances on lurkers and scum and all of that would not be scrutinized to every detail. Once again, I am new to the game, so you really should not read too deep into those answers, it is just the viewpoint of an ignorant beginner. Thank you. | ||
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Corazon
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On December 19 2012 22:10 Chromatically wrote: He is clearly uncomfortable when I ask him to simply clarify what he meant in his earlier post. He also plays the noob card: "hey guys, I don't know anything, I'm just a noob, don't mind me." He seems generally uncomfortable in the thread with basic questions, something I would expect from a first-time scummer. I clarified what I meant in your question. I understood that my wording was bad, and I fixed it. It is my first game, and I'm still trying to figure things out. I'm not trying to play the noob card, and no one has asked me a basic question that I have not already answered fully, or have just answered fully. Another person trying to head-hunt. | ||
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Corazon
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On December 20 2012 05:43 Chromatically wrote: @Corazon You talk about head-hunting as if it's a bad thing. It's not. This is a game of head-hunting. If no one hunts, then we don't lynch mafia and we lose. Why does Aqua's vote on you make you think that he's mafia? Who do you think are the scummiest people right now? I agree that it is a game for head-hunting, but I feel like there is a right time and place for it. Day 1 with only post analysis to go off of, I feel like that is a good way to lynch townies. Who wins by a Day 1 lynch? Mafia. Just by numbers, the chances of a town getting voted off the first Day are statistically higher than a Mafia getting voted off. Perhaps talking about being suspicious of someone is ok, but outright voting for someone just to start a conversation just seems like a Mafia trying to get pressure off of himself and onto others. In my opinion, the scummiest people right now are Aqua and Threesr. Aqua is head-hunting at a time where it would be good for Mafia to get an early lynch, and for accusing someone with only marginal evidence to go off of. Threesr just seems to be a bit of a shady character, he is answering questions less clearly than I was before. However, I would like to see how his defense goes before making any more judgements on him. I would be happy to unvote for Aqua if he unvotes me, but voting someone just to start discussion instead of just talking about them just sounds like a rash and scummy move. | ||
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On December 20 2012 06:10 threesr wrote: inb4 this guy hops on the threesr bandwagon Saying stuff like this is going to get you lynched. Defend yourself with a good argument, don't complain that everyone is ganging up on you. | ||
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Corazon
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On December 20 2012 06:12 Aquanim wrote: My first OMGUS vote. What joy. @Corazon: You can't deny that our discussion has become a lot more worthwhile in terms of looking for scum (as opposed to discussing policy) since I voted you, which was my intention. As for why I voted you as opposed to a "lurker", I don't believe there are any lurkers until 24 hours have passed (to give everyone in every time zone an opportunity). You had had a significant amount of time to post (and had made a fair few posts, too), and none of them were constructive at all. In my eyes, that's just as bad as a lurker, if not worse. My vote will stick for the moment, but if you continue to post constructively I imagine I'll take it off after work. Town benefits from day one discussion, and the only way to generate that really is with a day one lynch. Besides, scum is catchable day one. I am distinctly unimpressed with mocsta's posting so far, but not certain it makes him scum. I'll reread him again when I get home. I respect that, my offer to unvote you if you unvote me is still on the table. I feel like we should pursue threesr more. His posts have been uninformational and useless, and now he's making sarcastic remarks about suspicion on him instead of having posts with substance. Have you given up already threesr? | ||
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Corazon
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On December 20 2012 06:16 threesr wrote: Defend myself from what? Ive already made my arguments, they might be pretty bad but I tried anyway. Also it wasn't a complaint I just think its funny that you put me into that paragraph, seems obvious that you want to switch off aqua and on to me. I'm still a bit suspicious, but now he has responded to my accusations with full detail and grace, whereas you have not done that same. | ||
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Corazon
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On December 20 2012 06:18 threesr wrote: Oh look hes going to vote me, what a surprise. Why shouldn't I vote for you if all I get is sarcastic replies? | ||
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Corazon
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On December 20 2012 06:21 threesr wrote: So you make your voting decisions based on who you like or dislike? Now you are just trying to play the victim card. I have made one voting decision in my time as mafia, and it was a vote to defend myself, not on who I liked or not. Make a useful post, not all of this silly questioning and stuff. | ||
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Corazon
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On December 20 2012 06:26 Orangeremi wrote: Corazon, I disagree with your reasoning to vote Aqua. His behavior is hardly scummy. I don't agree with everything he has posted, but his vote for you was justified, even though I don't believe you're scum. He voted to stimulate discussion. It worked. I'm voting for him in self defense. I've offered to take my vote off of the table if he does this same. I just believe that head-hunting on Day 1 isn't the most innocent thing to. I must admit, it did work to create discussion, but there are other ways to do it besides putting someone on the chopping block. Edit to this post below, look for the bolded words that aren't votes. | ||
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Corazon
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Why would I want to do that? It is the town's job to look for discrepancies in posts, and I feel like you are making baseless accusations and sarcastic answers. It's like trying to break a brick wall down with a pencil. It's useless. You could have come out and said that you were not going to make any assumptions or accusations without reasonable cause. But you haven't, and it is too late to do that now because you are under fire. You need to rise up to the occasion and defend yourself with logic and reason, not sarcastic answers and baseless accusations. As I've said, the true side of people come out when they are under pressure. It just shows threesr can't handle being accused and cannot find a suitable defense. Even if he is not mafia, he seems to be useless to the town, as of now. If he proves the opposite, I will retract these statements. | ||
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