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Obviously, I'm busy atm etc. etc., so I might not post regularly etc. etc. | ||
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The last post I liked most was from Bluelightz. I also want to remind you of Clarity_nl trying to discuss policy as a first step after thrawns slip. That caught my eye. Posting more soon. | ||
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Thrawn posting that his post has a purpose. www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17192357 VE defending thrawn based on meta, and that it's gotta be a joke. So apparently, VE either didn't read thrawns posts, or he believes that the purpose thrawn speaks about is that of making a joke. VE responded to a question from jay with this post. | ||
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Clarity, may I know why you are so disinterested in thrawns claim? You were the first to point out his mistake and never gave a fuck about it. I don't feel like I can just let this matter go. Thrawn could have talked about it as a joke, instead he acts as if he did it on purpose. He's probably just realized that he's made a big mistake, and further talking about him will harm him no matter what. | ||
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What motivations would he have to defend him if he doesn't even grasp thrawns own point of view? He might aswell have not read his posts, not showing any interest in scumhunting with that trail available. I might also remind you that VE has been present since 9:44, but only posts as answer to jay at around 10:23. He's shown lack of interest in the matter from start. My conclusion?Maybe scummy, maybe sloppy. You want me to go further than this?We've got enough time to vote. If I had to do it now it would be thrawn. Fakeclaiming as joke is a pretty shitty move. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/k9gNk.png) That reminds me that you've pressured thrawn a little at 10:18, marv, but quickly lost interest. So what's your opinion on him? | ||
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If he was a scum fakeclaiming, believing that millers are self-aware, he would take the risk of facing a counterclaim. As others mentioned, he's drawn attention with that. But identifying scum with stereotypes isn't exactly the way. Why wouldn't scum be able to draw attention and get away with it? He would have made following mistakes: 1. Overlooked the rule about self-awareness. Obvious. 2. Forgotten to consider another miller, under the premise that he really made mistake 1. I don't believe it was a joke though, rather some sort of strategy. Maybe he would have brought these points up by himself at some point, betting on town not believing that he would do such mistakes. | ||
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Brb in one or more hours. | ||
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##Vote jaybrundage On December 11 2012 04:23 Tunkeg wrote: Thrawn's "claim" is a joke claim. He did it in the very beginning, and quickly and without concern went back on it. I didn't like his response when called out on it. But when he in the end explained why he did as he did, it was an ok (no more, no less) explanation. So you are okay with this post? On December 10 2012 09:57 thrawn2112 wrote: any answer I could possibly give would just betray the actual purpose behind that post, making whatever I hoped to accomplish with that post no longer possible To me it looks like you didn't study the matter enough. This explanation sucks hard. He's basically leaving the defense of himself to everybody else. He never said explicitly that he joked, he only said explicitly that he had intentions, fuck knows which. That being said, I suggest you go back and read the stuff before you make the same mistake I made with clarity. | ||
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Holy shit, he even digs through his own meta to justify his "Ohmahgawdidontwannabandwagon". Meanwhile, he does exactly that, he catches up some sentiment in town and rides it when he feels it's strong enough. Check the filter. Until his "hit the bed" post, upon which he voted for me, he never updated his stance on thrawn, he never got the response he's been expecting from him. In theory, jay should have commented on my posts about thrawn, if not even supported them. But when he has to defend himself, he posts all sorts of shit. When he has to vote for someone, he never does it on his own initiative. Additionally, he tries to moderate other people. Another thing by jay in his last post: Even when thrawn said his self it was just a joke Same shit as with Tunkeg. He says that thrawn himself said it was a joke. Bullshit. Find the line where he says that. They both didn't even read. But unlike Tunkeg, Jay felt that thrawn was a liar and scum, and voted for him when others did. | ||
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If you asked me to dig up my meta for you, I'll gently tell you to gtfo and read it for yourself, it's out there. However, I don't even want to get lost into details, I don't trust his style and that's all. I don't feel like lynching Tunkeg for one post. To me it looks like he's lazy. If he doesn't post more until the end of day 1 I'll think about changing opinion. | ||
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I didn't like Tunkegs response, he could have spent time posting more against others instead of reacting to my post with one line. I'd join you in a Tunkeg vote, not in for Z-Boson though. | ||
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Just saw Bosons post, reading and updating opinion. | ||
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 .I still don't like your defensive style jaybro. Nothing personal. Meanwhile, you can discuss how weird it is that I'm willing to lynch Tunkeg after his second post, Clarity looks willing to help in that, he's being like, my personal journalist. | ||
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You raise some good points. I'd say your main argument is that he identifies that early vote by debears as a policy vote, but still asks about other motivations. Then he drops from debears, goes for thrawn, the guy he leaned town on, just to switch to jay for suspecting thrawn. The same guy he voted for just before. Yeah, I think he's scummy for these moves. | ||
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His first post was made to fit in in some way, then he apparently spent hours lurking only to come out again when called out from me. Don't act as if I changed my mind out of nothing. I changed it cause of his post. Just cause clarity highlights one small part of it (the one where I express my willingness to vote) doesn't mean you shouldn't read the rest of it ,where I say that I didn't like Tunkegs response. | ||
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What do you think of jay and Djodref? Don't you think they are scummy? | ||
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