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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 22 2012 16:24 GMT
#25
/in

My latest game suffered from a lack of playtime, but now I *should* be able to devote more time I'm still in the military, but now going through the last weeks, so we don't have much to do anymore. Let's hope this game starts reasonably fast.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 23 2012 15:17 GMT
#37
Come on people, join! The game's filling up a bit slowly.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 23 2012 22:19 GMT
#48
On November 24 2012 00:27 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 00:17 Xatalos wrote:
Come on people, join! The game's filling up a bit slowly.


A lot of people's attentions are focused on Chrono Trigger atm ^_^


Yeah, may be... But fortunately it's starting to fill up now.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 25 2012 15:06 GMT
#59
All of you observers, you could also actually join the game, you know..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 27 2012 01:32 GMT
#70
On November 27 2012 09:13 marvellosity wrote:
naturally i died first in chrono

/in



Welcome! Rest assured: if I'm Mafia, you'll die first night as well Hehe..

Even Ace is playing. This is starting to look pretty nice.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 27 2012 06:39 GMT
#83
On November 27 2012 12:57 ShiaoPi wrote:
Midterms done !
/in :D


Watch out or I'm going to frame you to be lynched again, haha
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 27 2012 06:42 GMT
#84
On November 27 2012 10:47 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 10:33 marvellosity wrote:
yeah playerlist looks awesome atm.


Looks better now. I think you'll appreciate the extra-special filter link I gave you.


Haha, the unfortunate reality.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 27 2012 14:46 GMT
#88
On November 27 2012 20:32 marvellosity wrote:
can we not be putting ideas in people's heads please


Isn't it more fun to start the mindgames before the actual game begins?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 27 2012 18:33 GMT
#96
On November 27 2012 23:59 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 23:46 Xatalos wrote:
On November 27 2012 20:32 marvellosity wrote:
can we not be putting ideas in people's heads please


Isn't it more fun to start the mindgames before the actual game begins?


you're my day 1 lynch <3


We'll see how that goes
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 28 2012 06:20 GMT
#111
Just 3 more!
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 29 2012 14:15 GMT
#155
Vacation started just in time! I've only played newbie games earlier (except GOT) so this ought to be quite a different experience.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 29 2012 23:11 GMT
#179
Let the games begin Looks like the thread is pretty active right away. That's a good start, since it means less focus on mere lurker bashing (something so easy to bandwagon behind). As long as everyone will enter the game in reasonable time, that is... Definitely hoping for that to happen.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 29 2012 23:47 GMT
#205
The beginning of this game is quite... different... from newbie games Trolling seems to be the norm. Somehow I just don't like making yourself artificially harder to read. It's kind of like a selfish metagame plan to confuse other players - not to help your team. What's the point in establishing yourself as a null read? Except denying meaningful information from scumhunting?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 29 2012 23:57 GMT
#211
Heh. I guess there's not much to go with yet, though. The reads I'm getting are slight at best so far. It'd be impossible to lynch based on these posts alone... Although I do have one idea. But I'll wait to see a bit more first.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 30 2012 00:03 GMT
#220
On November 30 2012 08:59 Blazinghand wrote:
##vote Xatalos

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.


Heheh.. What ever should I do. Clearly I've been found out!
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 30 2012 00:12 GMT
#223
Maybe I underestimated the usefulness of these fluff posts. At least it beats inactivity and gives "something" to work with, opposed to an empty thread. Every little bit of info can help later on. Although nothing even nearly decisive has been said yet.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 30 2012 00:24 GMT
#235
On November 30 2012 09:17 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 09:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
On November 30 2012 09:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 30 2012 09:10 DoYouHas wrote:
On November 30 2012 09:03 Xatalos wrote:
On November 30 2012 08:59 Blazinghand wrote:
##vote Xatalos

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.


Heheh.. What ever should I do. Clearly I've been found out!


Well that is a suspicious way of responding to BH's vote.

##Vote Xatalos

Wrong. He is a noob. (no offense) you can't read too much into things like that with him.

I'm a noob too, and you already lynched me

So inconsistant

Yeah. But your not as new. Also I am confident in my ability to catch you should you havae had the misfortune to roll scum in this game. So I am not really worried about you.


What I AM worried about is town being all retarded and lynching the noobiest player day one (again, no offense)


Haha, none taken. Indeed I'm one of the least experienced players here. And already with 2 votes Go me!
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 30 2012 00:54 GMT
#238
I have to say one thing though...

IF I had to lynch one player right now, it would be DoYouHas. Why?

In my earlier game with him (Game of Thrones) he was town and I was Mafia. In that game, he became our priority night kill quite fast: his tone was very decisive, he pushed the discussion forward and he was overall a threatening presence. In fact, his first guess at a Mafia member was correct.

Now we arrive at the current game. Any way I look at it, his attitude is pretty different. First we have this post:

On November 30 2012 08:25 DoYouHas wrote:
Hi everyone, looking forward to an active game. It's nice to recognize many of the names on the playerlist even though I haven't played in a while.

I'm happy to see Marv/BH/VE in here. With those 3 there is no reason the thread should be inactive.

I'm perhaps overly cautious of Ace. His reputation obviously precedes him. Never having played with him paired with the knowledge that he can be a devastatingly effective scum leader makes me a little paranoid.

As always, I am in favor of lurker lynching on day1 unless a better candidate shows up (which it inevitably will).


This post reeks of vagueness and indecisiveness - the complete opposite of his earlier game. The meek tone of this post is also in contrast with his earlier aggressive playstyle. What's more, this is a completely "forgettable" post - the kind of post that Mafia love to open with.


On November 30 2012 09:10 DoYouHas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 09:03 Xatalos wrote:
On November 30 2012 08:59 Blazinghand wrote:
##vote Xatalos

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.


Heheh.. What ever should I do. Clearly I've been found out!


Well that is a suspicious way of responding to BH's vote.

##Vote Xatalos


This post really bothers me. It *might* be trolling, but it seems more serious than the previous post by Blazinghand. Even so, it doesn't really offer anything more than "I'm jumping on a promising bandwagon just in case". This kind of half-hearted bandwagoning is something usually done by Mafia to appear "active" while keeping an easy escape route in case things go bad.

In fact, I can already cast my vote based on this. If the lynch happened right now, he would be my choice.

##Vote DoYouHas
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 30 2012 01:04 GMT
#241
On November 30 2012 09:49 DoYouHas wrote:
@Darth, what I remember about Xata is that he is not a bad player. With 3-4 games under his belt he may be one of the newest in the game, but I would not call him a complete noob.

What I see are multiple posts that seem uncomfortable and uncertain. His attempt at making a joke out of BH's vote just seems awkward. Making light of confrontation is classic avoidance behavior, something that I think is more likely to be true because of the awkward phrasing.

You could very well be right that this is just noob Xata being genuinely uncomfortable with the start of the game. But you are foolish if you dismiss such classically scummy behavior just because there is a different explanation.

PS: I don't think you are going to like me very much given your advice to Xata. I spend quite a bit of time on my posts regardless of alignment.


Ah, just my luck. A new post while I'm typing...

I'm not sure if I get much of a read from this post. What I find weird is the focus on a *possibility* of a Mafia reasoning behind my posts, even though it's not much to go with, considering the equal/better reasons for them being townie. And why no actual reasoning for the vote until now? + That last statement is just unnecessarily defensive...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 30 2012 11:05 GMT
#307
On November 30 2012 12:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
Why does Xatalos seem scummy but has received the most attention, but not that many votes?


Are you implying it's scummy that I haven't received that many votes despite being the "most suspected"? That if I were town, there would already be a big bandwagon on me? I don't think Mafia would risk jumping a bandwagon this uncertain, especially too early or with too much force. DYH's vote still seems bandwagony to me, though, given his (original) lack of reasoning behind it and overall half-hearted attitude.

Right now I see DarthPunk, austinmcc and debears as the most likely townies. I would also include marvellosity, but something is bothering me. Probably it's the fact that his posts have been too vague/fluff to really contribute so far... Although I might be just extra careful, since he was my coach earlier.

And WBG, why are you only asking questions? I can't say it's either townish or scummy, really, but I'd like to see your own opinions and reasoning instead of pushing the responsibility to others. Especially since it is a Mafia tactic I've used to focus on asking questions.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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