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Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 02 2012 01:37 GMT
#12
/in
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 02 2012 14:39 GMT
#56
On November 02 2012 22:08 marvellosity wrote:
For Alsn's eyes: 2-2 or 1-1 during the day counts as mafia victory, no hammer rushing needed.

Presume all rules take a common sense approach like that. Setup is fairly simple this time around though.

1 spot remains.
But I wanted to argue!

*shakes fist*
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Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 14:45:35
November 02 2012 14:44 GMT
#57
On November 02 2012 22:31 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 13:34 debears wrote:
Nah I'll be a lime if you're a blueberry. Already had scum 2/3 games

And considering in my only town game there was only 1 scum :/


if only it worked like this
Yea, if only the gambler's fallacy wasn't a fallacy!

Edit: That being said, there's nothing to say hosts can't do whatever the fuck they want when they decide roles. :|
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Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 02 2012 15:13 GMT
#60
Cult, cult, I wanna be a cult leader!
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Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 02 2012 15:14 GMT
#61
pwetty pweeeease
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Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 02 2012 15:50 GMT
#66
Don't worry Cheese, knowing Rad he will jail the Doctor who was about to save a townie. <3
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Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 18:56:14
November 02 2012 18:55 GMT
#90
Is the game starting in ~5 hours? or ~29? -Fuck yea, proper question formatting too!
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Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 03 2012 00:20 GMT
#94
Woah, it's working again!
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Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 00:21:00
November 03 2012 00:20 GMT
#96
I'm guessing this downtime means it'll be another 24 hours? In any case I need to sleep, so if PM's go out later than any time soon don't expect anything from me until tomorrow.
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Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 03 2012 00:36 GMT
#98
On November 03 2012 09:35 debears wrote:
Lets get it on
Trying to rush us are you?

##Vote: debears
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Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 03 2012 01:20 GMT
#112
On November 03 2012 10:04 debears wrote:
If I'm not here for lynch, its irl conflicts 99% of the time. Don't pull an Alsn
I like it how you say 99% of the time, yet I know from reading XXIX's scum QT that you were away on purpose for the last lynch. I also bet you haven't yet participated in anywhere near 100 lynches, so technically that's a lie. Although, I probably should have paid more attention to what you actually voted for that game as opposed to whether or not you were actually around so I'll let that one slide.

I'm Alsn, I'll be around for flip-time generally, but they happen at 1 am local time so don't expect me to stick around for too long afterwards.

Prior games include XXV(VT), XXVIII(VT) and XXIX also as VT.

And yea, if given the choice between weak scum reads and hardcore lurkers, I'll hunt down and feed the hardcore lurker gone off cheesecake first chance I get. That being said, I'm off to lurk(also known as sleep, for those of you concerned with base things such as human metabolic function).
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 03 2012 01:41 GMT
#131
On November 03 2012 10:28 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 10:20 Alsn wrote:
On November 03 2012 10:04 debears wrote:
If I'm not here for lynch, its irl conflicts 99% of the time. Don't pull an Alsn
I like it how you say 99% of the time, yet I know from reading XXIX's scum QT that you were away on purpose for the last lynch. I also bet you haven't yet participated in anywhere near 100 lynches, so technically that's a lie. Although, I probably should have paid more attention to what you actually voted for that game as opposed to whether or not you were actually around so I'll let that one slide.

I'm Alsn, I'll be around for flip-time generally, but they happen at 1 am local time so don't expect me to stick around for too long afterwards.

Prior games include XXV(VT), XXVIII(VT) and XXIX also as VT.

And yea, if given the choice between weak scum reads and hardcore lurkers, I'll hunt down and feed the hardcore lurker gone off cheesecake first chance I get. That being said, I'm off to lurk(also known as sleep, for those of you concerned with base things such as human metabolic function).


A lie? I've played in 3 games. With what? 3 lynches each. I only missed the last one cuz you said you would unvote my scum teammate if i didn't come back. So that's 90%. Not a lie. I was there only 45 minutes before the lynch, after u said that you weren't voting dandel if i was afk l. If you didn't say that, i wouldve come back.

If fact, for mafia it is usually dumb to not be active around lynch due to the suspicion it causes and the lack of control ot gives the scumteam

FOS Alsn
for real. You know better than to call me a liar like that especially when 1) its an exaggeration if anything and not a lie and 2) when being afk around lynch is usually bad for scum
Argue however much you want, you were missing from the thread on purpose. The fact that you were away because of something I said is besides the point. Hand waving away someone not being around because of IRL issues is a mistake I'm not libel to repeat.

However, like I said, unless there's something inherently scummy by not being around I won't hold it against you. I got hung up on the fact that you were missing much more than what actually happened while you were missing last game.

The fact that you're saying it's not a lie is hilarious though, 90% vs 99% is a massive difference. I admit, it's nit picking, but it's still a lie. Don't think I'll make the same mistake and give everyone a second chance because they claim IRL issues. Especially when it's done like you just did as some kind of magic explanation as to why we should always expect that if you are away, it's all right, you've got stuff to do, we should just trust you. It's way too convenient.

And you instantly FOSing me for it suggests to me that you know it was a dumb thing to say but don't want to admit it. I'm really heading off to bed now but I expect better than knee-jerk reactions and stupid statements like "99% chance that I have pure intentions, trust me I promise!" or I'll definitely look out for you heading forward.
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Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 03 2012 01:44 GMT
#137
EBWOP: I repeated myself a bit there but my point is that yes, suspecting someone solely on the basis of being away claiming IRL issues isn't particularly helpful and I was guilty of it last game. But the post you made is way too convenient and your reaction is definitely scummy.
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Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 03 2012 01:51 GMT
#140
Why is it odd to point out that you were ready and willing to use your established town meta to your advantage when you were scum? Especially in light of making a post where you basically ask us to unconditionally forgive you for that very behaviour?
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Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 03 2012 01:58 GMT
#143
I used the word basically in conjunction with unconditionally, considering you used 99%, I find that pretty accurate. You may not have meant it as such, but that's nevertheless an accurate description of what you said.
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Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 03 2012 02:01 GMT
#144
Anyway, I find this argument to be mostly about semantics, but given the nature of this game I wouldn't say that's entirely useless. That being said, this is going nowhere. I think your FOS was way way an overreaction, but I'll leave it at that because I'm really tired.
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Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 03 2012 15:46 GMT
#357
I'm back, slept like a baby and I've eaten like a king, so let's rock. I'll be here for something like the next ten hours.
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Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 03 2012 16:31 GMT
#370
First of all, I'm not really liking the lynch wagon against sylver. I find both debears and Djod's reasons for voting sylver much more worrying than sylver's vote on debears.

Taking a look at Djodref's reason, he seems to consider "casting suspicion" to be a scum slip, yet that would mean he considers a FOS a scum slip? Because that's essentially what a FOS is, casting a finger of suspicion on someone. Particularly, debears used his vote against da0ud in essentially the same way(as a way to paint suspicion against da0ud and get him to right his path), yet Djod did not find debears suspicious enough to vote him.

This coupled with the fact that he made a case against Cheese based on jokes suggests to me that he's grasping at straws.

FoS Djodref

Debears on the other hand is OMGUS voting. His points 1 and 2 contradicts each other, his point 8 mentions a supposed scum slip when the paragraph is merely an answer to what sylver thinks about lurker policy, something which debears brought up in the first place! Saying that the town seems more dedicated when there's not a single truly lurking player in the game(at least considering the short amount of time the game has been up) seems about as genuine an answer that one can give at this point.

Debears, how about you either start addressing sylver's points instead of your list of bullet points which are almost all entirely wrong or contradictory(3 is flat out wrong, sylver did in fact point out that you had content, but that it was buried among your - according to him fluffy - other posts. Which would be the opposite of neglecting to mention).

You've also now used the "omg he ran away after posting so I can't question him!" twice, first against me, now against him. Why is it people sticking around until it suits you a requirement for being town?

Also, you were keen on pointing out that you thought sylver considered you town as something scummy, yet at the same time you point out that you are among the most active players, painting yourself as some beacon of townieness. You did the same the last game where you called out Djod for "defending you" in order to state to the thread that "oh look! scum thinks I'm town!".

Also coupled with the argument that someone else made(sorry, I don't remember right now) that you seemed to be bullying Obzy and creating a bad town atmosphere definitely fits your scum profile.

FoS debears

I find it unlikely that both of you are scum at this point, but I find the behaviour of both of you worrisome.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 03 2012 16:39 GMT
#374
On November 04 2012 01:13 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 14:44 sylverfyre wrote:
Holy shit, this flavor. What.

If we're gonna lynch a lurker, I'd rather it be early game than late, at least. But I think that we have more... dedication among the townies this game. There wasn't a long wait for the last few signups - everyone here seems pretty pumped to play some mafia seriously. I don't think lurker policy lynch will come up at all.


You said townies. That's very different than saying the town or players. Very, very different.

It means that you either
1) Think the people being active are townies
2) Know that the people being active are townies
There is no other reason for using townies to describe those of us who are showing activeness and dedication

Also, you voted me, meaning you voted for someone who you think is townie based on the above. That is scummy as shit
debears, even if we hypothetically assume the two most active players are scum, it would still mean that town on the whole is being active and not lurking. I think your argument is bad and your insistence that his statement is a scum slip is far fetched imho.
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Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 03 2012 16:41 GMT
#377
On November 04 2012 01:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 01:20 Djodref wrote:
@ sylverfire

I don't know debears alignment. I'm already saying it in the post where I vote against you.
I think town players should not use their vote to cast suspicion upon someone. Town players should build cases to convince everybody to lynch the player they find the most suspicious.

You have the right to be suspicious of debears. But I think you have to bring better reasons to persuade us to do so. If you think that casting suspicion upon him is enough and expect other players to build a case against debears for you, then I would say that you are mafia.

Why did you use the word townies instead of players ?

So, you say that town players shouldn't vote as a pressure move / attract suspicion to someone?

You used your vote last game on Inig as vote pressure:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 09:16 Djodref wrote:
On October 26 2012 08:34 Inigmaticalism wrote:
Right now I dont have any scum reads, only town reads which Ive already said in earlier posts. So I would lynch one of the lurkers probably. Also, Djo you seem to be the only one really going after me, so while your asking everyone what they think of me, you should answer your own question. what you you think of me?

-Should be back to post something in around 6-7 hours.


I have already my eyes on you and I think that your posts lack content and scumhunting. You are my top scumread right now.

Let's assume that the lurkers are going to get modkill today, who would you like to lynch ?

Vote-pressuring you

## Vote Inig


Same with Nack:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 22:44 Djodref wrote:
We still have no insight from Nackht at all. He has only said that he was sure that Kush was scum.

I'm not sure about Cheese anymore. I'm null on him right now. His case shows good scumhunting efforts, even if they go in the wrong direction. Him using a "djo attempt to discredit me" paragraph in his case is a towntell for me because it shows that he has natural sense of innocence (in opposition of the usual self-culpability). If he still believes I am scum after my answers to his case, I want him to look for my potential scumbuddies. No by association by the way because I am town and anyway you should wait for me to flip to start this kind of thing.

I want dandel to decide if I am scum or SK and bring consequent proofs to his case.

I'm very very wary of Nackht. He has given us nothing (expect him being sure that Kush was scum) so far and I don't understand why a town replacement would be retaining info like he does. The other thing speaking against him is that I don't have a strong scumread at the moment and it makes the probability for the lurkers to be mafia higher. So I hope that we have a modkill on Roco today.

I'm going to vote pressure him to make nackht talk. Keeping this vote on him until he gives us a complete assessment of what is going on here according to him. He promised it but he has just given us a "lol" so far.

##Vote nackhtjogger



You obviously believe in vote pressure to cast suspicion from a townie perspective.
Now that's something I can believe has a chance of actually being a scum slip. Nice find.
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