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Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
October 28 2012 22:32 GMT
#8
/in
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
October 31 2012 02:08 GMT
#95
Adam has typed out four posts now only to be beaten to posting them.
Beginning to go Bruce Banner on this posting restriction and its only 45 minutes in.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
October 31 2012 02:54 GMT
#101
Very astute Blazinghand, that you've managed to discern my alignment from a 2 line post.

What happened was I got sick of reforming my post and hit Control+A then delete.

Xena warrior princess is awesome.

You're Wrong.

Zero town cred do I care about, only killing scum.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
October 31 2012 03:12 GMT
#109
On October 31 2012 11:56 Blazinghand wrote:
and yet somehow this magical post you supposedly wrotr is still absent


For what it is worth, my post was an introduction post that outlined that since I am newly unemployed, I am online from 9am KST til 1am KST every night, and that my usual 'meta' of lurking will not be the case here.

Given that the time for introductory posts is over and you have the gist of what it entailed, lets move on to something actually productive.


I'd like to know why Broodking is making a pressure vote, yet following it up with 'oh its just a joke', completely invalidating any pressure that may have come with it.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
October 31 2012 04:16 GMT
#131
EH, now that my hour long self imposed suspension is over for forgetting the letter H in my previous post.

Far back on page 6, Broodking, you said you hated people that go back on their word - who has done this and why did it need to be said?

Given my ample free time, I examined your 'meta' Broodking.

Having never used a pressure OR joke vote before in early D1.

I am curious as to why you have decided to pick this game to change your style.

Just at a quick glance, your first vote in your previous seven games has always come after the construction of a paragraph or longer case.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
October 31 2012 04:55 GMT
#134
Perhaps click on his profile and check for yourself?

Quite simple really.

Red he has never been.

Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
October 31 2012 23:33 GMT
#212
Well this got interesting. Blazinghand, you are cherry picking my game history to support your meta case.

X marks the spot. You ignore more recent games such as Aperture Mafia and wiggles mini mafia II - where I did not launch into cases with my first post - both of which I was town.

You're taking a year old game, my FIRST game, and a post that I later admit to being drunk when writing and use that as evidence for aggression which you believe is lacking in this game.

Zebras. I handled you more carefully this game because I've seen your horrendous tunnel-vision in TL51 - something that was a large distraction to town.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
October 31 2012 23:34 GMT
#213
EBWOP: I double used Y. back in an hour =/
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 01 2012 03:21 GMT
#232
What letter are we up to?
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 01 2012 03:33 GMT
#235
Now that I'm fed and showered:

Over some filters, I have looked.

Person of interest to me right now is Mementoss, whom I believe to be scum.

Quite simply, his meek tone and unwillingness to step on toes makes him likely to flip red.

Really bad vote on Crossfire, even admits himself that he can see Crossfires actions from a townie perspective as well as a scum one.

Sitting back, pointing the finger at someone who has posted 6 lines (djagulingu) and calling him 'weird' and also saying his actions are not indicative of his alignment, yet Mementoss thought they were worth mentioning anyway.

To use someones pre-game posts to build a case against them is garbage.

U lean scummy on me Mementoss, yet you find BH's case on me to be unsatisfactory - please build a case that better illustrates why you find me scummy.

##Vote: Mementoss
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 01 2012 03:44 GMT
#237
On November 01 2012 12:26 gonzaw wrote:

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 08:33 Adam4167 wrote:
Well this got interesting. Blazinghand, you are cherry picking my game history to support your meta case.

X marks the spot. You ignore more recent games such as Aperture Mafia and wiggles mini mafia II - where I did not launch into cases with my first post - both of which I was town.

You're taking a year old game, my FIRST game, and a post that I later admit to being drunk when writing and use that as evidence for aggression which you believe is lacking in this game.

Zebras. I handled you more carefully this game because I've seen your horrendous tunnel-vision in TL51 - something that was a large distraction to town.


...however Adam, that doesn't excuse you to just post to "defend" yourself and not contribute much more.
I believe more than 1 hour has passed so you can now post in here, but you haven't. You also fail to comment on the BKE issue which you participated before, yet somehow you can only find time to "defend" yourself from BH's accusations.
Why not do more? Saying "there are other games where I was town and haven't done much" doesn't mean you are justified in not doing much this game.


Very early did I make that meta argument on BKE, mainly to get discussion rolling, I do not consider him scum at this point.

When I post in the thread, I post with a reason, not for the sake of posting, my posts may take longer and be less frequent as a result - I was not excusing myself from participating in this game with my counter to BH's case.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 01 2012 22:56 GMT
#277
On November 02 2012 00:32 strongandbig wrote:
Something else you argue - he did originally take a position against BKE and later backtrack on it. Though I've said above that I don't understand why he backtracked, and though I really want to hear his reasoning, and though I think it's scummy to backtrack from one position and jump on another one without explaining yourself, I do think that at least taking a position is better than not taking a position, even if there is scummy backtracking.


Let me give my feelings on BKE: I feel that BKE would have dropped this much earlier in the day had he been scum - his belligerence and self-belief are that of a townie - he seems to genuinely believe what he is saying - even if i don't agree with what hes saying - it looks genuine to me.

Mementoss is still my clear choice for today's lynch - his vote on crossfire struck me as scummy because it does not follow the townie train of thought - when a townie sees scummy activity they think to themselves "this is scum motivated, and that's why i'm going to pressure/vote this person" (look at BH for an example for how this works, even if it is misguided) - Mementoss stated that he could see Crossfires actions from both a townie and scum perspective, then proceeds to vote him anyway.

Now, If you would like my thoughts on anyone, feel free to ask and I will provide them, I will also take a look at Mementoss Keirathi case momentarily.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 01 2012 23:26 GMT
#286
Back with my thoughts on Mementoss' Keirathi case: Mementoss you say that Keirathi does not care if he is to be lynched, yet that is not indicative of alignment and I would wager entirely untrue as either alignment has a vested interest in not being lynched.

Canned peaches - Accusing Keirathi of being wishy-washy by using the term 'weird' is just plain hypocritical, as you yourself did the exact thing here:

On November 01 2012 08:08 Mementoss wrote:
V
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 00:25 Djagulingu wrote:
No!!! I missed a game with Chezinu in it.

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 00:25 Djagulingu wrote:
/replacement

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 03:17 Djagulingu wrote:
So did we start or we're just fucking around?
To be honest, I don't give a fuck
Uhh
##Vote: Chezinu
We should vote for chezinu because every single time there is a storm in the US and Chezinu is playing a game of mafia, he's always a scumbag.


-does anyone see a weird disconnect here between pre game and in game - excited to play the game/to play with chezinu and then comes out with that opener saying I dont give a fuck - I dont understand this sudden change in mindset, not indicative of alignment as of yet, but just really weird contrast imo.



Dogs are awesome - Granted I don't like Keirathi's laziness - something I already touched on when I was conversing with him - but this is the only part of your case that actually resonates with me.

Eventually, I find your case to be mostly padded and does not do a good job of illustrating why Keirathi is scum and only scum, hence I think you're faking it.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 01 2012 23:55 GMT
#290
Jep, I honestly believe BKE to be town, I have been on the wrong side of a BKE lynch before, he makes literally no sense and sticks to his guns about it, which is what I'm seeing more of here.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 02 2012 00:04 GMT
#300
Well, inconvenient yes, but not beyond repair, he can still vote.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 02 2012 01:03 GMT
#318
He will not, but you will.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 02 2012 01:07 GMT
#320
Yep, so right it hurts.

You sat there and waited until kierathi voted so your vote counted for zero.

You backed yourself into a corner with your reads gonzaw, you had to play it out like that, and it looks suspicious as hell because of it.

You're scum, and you just bailed your scum buddy Mementoss out.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 02 2012 01:16 GMT
#331
On November 02 2012 10:12 Keirathi wrote:
lol @ gonzaw

What did you expect me to do? I said 3 hours ago that I was going to vote for BKE unless people would consolidate onto you. Yea, my vote was at the end of the day, but its not like I didn't say I wasn't going to consolidate if I needed to. The only other option was to just not vote and get modkilled; is that what you wanted? I don't understand the faux anger.


You did exactly what he expected you to do, you came in, followed your read on BKE, giving him the opportunity to throw away his vote on Mementoss, without risk of having his teammate killed.

Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 02 2012 03:01 GMT
#334
Lets take a good look at what just happened regarding Gonzaw:

His reads are as follows -

On November 02 2012 01:51 gonzaw wrote:

So, damn; I think Keirathi is the most likely scum out of all of them.Oh fuck this post restriction I won't make it in time.
He has done 0 scumhunting at all this day other than making "probing" questions to players like Chezinu or BH. He wasn't part of any discussion, and worst of all didn't seem to care. He didn't even seem to care to defend himself against my points.
Again, the main point is that he doesn't care about the game and is not contributing.
Again, in Aperture 2 or even Can't Believe, he was part of every discussion and would have never acted like he's doing here at all.

Yeah I think he should be today's lynch. But fuck I won't be around here for that, so I hope you guys can make something out of this D1.

I wouldn't mind Adam or Mementos lynched. Adam hasn't done anything other than park his vote on Mementos. He posted good reasons to pressure him but not to base a whole lynch vote on him and disappear. Again taking into account him only "pressuring" BKE earlier and nothing else. He isn't pushing Mementos nor doing anything else productive.
Mementos made a "bad" vote on Xfire and doesn't seem to care to be part of any other discussion or scumhunting. He hasn't even moved his vote from Xfire or talked about Adam or Keirathi or any of those guys (that I remember).

I'm still not sure about BKE, since I can't really see a scum "noob" BKE make such an aggressive "joke" vote very early into the game. I'd prefer him not being lynched today but fuck it I'm not sure fuck running out of time.


So to summarise - happy to lynch Myself or Mementoss, claims to not be sure on BKE, leaning 'noob' town.


He reenters the thread right here, 08:58:

On November 02 2012 08:58 gonzaw wrote:
Kay, I'm back, when's the deadline?


At this point there are votes are 4 on Mementoss (Chez, Myself, BKE and Crossfire), placing a vote right here would put Mementoss to 5 votes first and completely decide the lynch, as BKE would need 6 votes to take the lead.

Then he proceeds to get himself an hour timeout, but keep in mind this does not exclude him from voting at any point. Complying with his ban, he falls silent.

He resurfaces at 09:41 in the voting thread to unvote Keirathi:

On November 02 2012 09:41 gonzaw wrote:
##Unvote: Keirathi


This proves that he is still around, and yet he still keeps his vote on Mementoss withheld.

Five minutes later, in comes Kierathi and votes for BKE.

Finally, at 9:56, Gonzaw smacks his (now useless, as Mementoss would need 6 votes to pass BKE) onto Mementoss, avoiding a modkill and wasting his vote.

On November 02 2012 09:56 gonzaw wrote:
##Vote: Mementos




He could not vote against BKE to save Mementoss because he had previously said that he found him to be 'noob' town, leaving him with this as his only course of action to avoid hanging his teammate or a modkill for failure to vote.

Scum. He dies tomorrow.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 02 2012 04:07 GMT
#336
On November 02 2012 13:02 Chezinu wrote:
I think we should continue to play! Just imagine mementoss and Adam dying and flipping red.


The only place that is going to occur is in your imagination, sorry.
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