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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
October 19 2012 22:48 GMT
#19
/in Hi guys! really look forward to this instant majority lynch thingl.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
October 19 2012 22:50 GMT
#20
Sorry for being late. Timezone and all that.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
October 20 2012 00:05 GMT
#23
Well. This player list seems pretty strong so I guess we don't need to talk about policy lynches or lurker lynches... hey ZB, Long time no see. ^_^
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
October 20 2012 00:14 GMT
#26
Hi drazak? What is your role?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
October 20 2012 00:16 GMT
#28
Hapa what do you mean by hammering? Do you mean pushing a lynch on someone?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
October 20 2012 00:17 GMT
#30
On October 20 2012 09:15 Hapahauli wrote:
Oh, and you didn't roll scum again did you DP? You tend to roll mafia quite often


I know right. ^_^
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
October 20 2012 00:20 GMT
#32
On October 20 2012 09:17 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 09:16 DarthPunk wrote:
Hapa what do you mean by hammering? Do you mean pushing a lynch on someone?


The "hammer" is the clinching vote in insta-lynch.

i.e. someone has 4 votes on him D1 - whoever puts in vote #5 is the hammer (and better have some pretty damn good rationale for it).


Ok thanks for the clarification. Meh. I dislike policy lynches. But I agree. If you are townie don't hammer someone when you are not certain they are scum or the certainty you hold is not rational.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
October 20 2012 00:28 GMT
#38
To elaborate. Don't be scared TO hammer someone if you DO have a strong case and read on them.

On October 20 2012 09:22 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 09:20 DarthPunk wrote:
On October 20 2012 09:17 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 20 2012 09:16 DarthPunk wrote:
Hapa what do you mean by hammering? Do you mean pushing a lynch on someone?


The "hammer" is the clinching vote in insta-lynch.

i.e. someone has 4 votes on him D1 - whoever puts in vote #5 is the hammer (and better have some pretty damn good rationale for it).


Ok thanks for the clarification. Meh. I dislike policy lynches. But I agree. If you are townie don't hammer someone when you are not certain they are scum or the certainty you hold is not rational.


The nice thing about policy is we can choose how strictly to enforce it or not. I just would like to set the stage for some discussion, and create an environment where people aren't scared to seriously pursue scumreads.


So what is the point of even discussing it if we may or may not enforce it at all and it comes down to the circumstances? I know that policy is the best way to start discussion. But honestly it is very easy for scum to hide in the midst of policy talk.
I have never seen a policy lynch despite it being discussed at length at the start of every game.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
October 20 2012 00:30 GMT
#39
On October 20 2012 09:24 drazak wrote:
Progamer Darthpunk, what about you? Sounds like you're pretty good at scum, and a lot of games as mafia means you're probably pretty good at it, better to get rid of you quickly then. :D


Alas. Even though I much prefer League of Legends I am a SC2Progamer
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
October 20 2012 00:30 GMT
#41
I guess I am like Destiny.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
October 20 2012 00:31 GMT
#42
On October 20 2012 09:30 drazak wrote:
Yeah, I don't think policy lynches are a great idea for forum mafia. Hard to keep to a policy, hard to agree to one, and generally useless. That guy lurking probably isn't mafia, and might just be scared to post because he has a role, or because he doesn't, or something.

We are not going to have lurkers in this game with this player list.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
October 20 2012 01:09 GMT
#59
On October 20 2012 10:01 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 09:53 Hapahauli wrote:
@ iamperfection

Welcome to the dick pics party! Whaddya think of policy and whatnot?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376602&currentpage=2#25

Im all for using votes to apply pressure and we don't have to worry about someone doing a stupid hammer it wont happen. However all this policy talk bores me time for some action.

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On October 20 2012 09:14 DarthPunk wrote:
Hi drazak? What is your role?

blatant blue hunting darthpunk. Why not ask alignment instead of role?

Talk to me darthpunk i wish to know more.
## Vote DarthPunk




Every scum is going to claim green. If I ask role instead of alignment he can't fake claim later.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
October 20 2012 01:10 GMT
#60
On October 20 2012 10:03 drazak wrote:
Haha, I was gonna do the same thing for his way of asking me, but I wasn't sure if I wanted to be the first vote.

##Vote DarthPunk


You know who is afraid to cast the first vote? scum. That's who.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
October 20 2012 01:11 GMT
#61
On October 20 2012 10:03 drazak wrote:
Haha, I was gonna do the same thing for his way of asking me, but I wasn't sure if I wanted to be the first vote.

##Vote DarthPunk


Furthermore. You know who is likely to jump on a weak bandwagon with little to no reasoning? Yeah.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
October 20 2012 01:20 GMT
#63
On October 20 2012 10:14 drazak wrote:
Why would scum be afraid of casting a vote? If voting and being active is "town" then casting votes would be the most "town" thing you could do. Nervous town are far more likely to not want to early vote because they might not be sure if it makes them look mafia or not. I'm nervous town.

@iamperfection

As far as what makes me tick? Not sure what you want me to say, I'm a fairly inexperience forum mafia player, I'd like to think I'm not that bad but I'm still pretty nervous about certain things. I watched the last gsl game in despair because of how inactive it was, so I'm trying to be more active than I've ever been. Best flavor of mafia games (IMO) with a gerrible terrible game 2 of the series.


why would a townie think someone was so scummy that they wished to vote for that person and not mention it at all until they could jump on someone else's bandwagon whilst saying 'yeah I thought that all along'

Also. Your entire defense was WIFOM.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
October 20 2012 01:37 GMT
#67
On October 20 2012 10:25 drazak wrote:
Just giving my thought process on it, while it may not be WIFOM, it's how I thought of it after the fact (and why I was hesitating on voting in the first place). I don't think Mafia have any need to bandwagon votes in an instant lynch game, could be wrong, but it seems somewhat ineffective as nobody will hammer it if there isn't sufficient reason, and if mafia does hammer it it's going to make them look pretty scummy. Voting also causes conversation, which mafia is likely to be somewhat adverse to for having less chance to scumslip. Just my thoughts on how it works with this scenario, obviously mafia have to make some votes.


So. Did you vote for me because you think I am scum? or did you vote for me to promote discussion etc?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
October 20 2012 01:39 GMT
#68
On October 20 2012 10:36 Hapahauli wrote:
Oh btw, anyone here know anything about vaderseven? I think he's BH's friend, but I've never played a game with him.


Nope. He and drazak are the players I know nothing about.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
October 20 2012 02:16 GMT
#69
Perfection. You called me out and wanted to know more and Have now disappeared. You satisfied with my explanation? got anything else to add. Or you going to drop a vote and AFK?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
October 20 2012 02:59 GMT
#75
On October 20 2012 11:45 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 10:20 DarthPunk wrote:
On October 20 2012 10:14 drazak wrote:
Why would scum be afraid of casting a vote? If voting and being active is "town" then casting votes would be the most "town" thing you could do. Nervous town are far more likely to not want to early vote because they might not be sure if it makes them look mafia or not. I'm nervous town.

@iamperfection

As far as what makes me tick? Not sure what you want me to say, I'm a fairly inexperience forum mafia player, I'd like to think I'm not that bad but I'm still pretty nervous about certain things. I watched the last gsl game in despair because of how inactive it was, so I'm trying to be more active than I've ever been. Best flavor of mafia games (IMO) with a gerrible terrible game 2 of the series.


why would a townie think someone was so scummy that they wished to vote for that person and not mention it at all until they could jump on someone else's bandwagon whilst saying 'yeah I thought that all along'

Also. Your entire defense was WIFOM.


You sure like throwing the word WIFOM at people but using it yourself when it benefits you :o

Also, Hi people!


Yep.

Also Hi Keir <3
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
October 20 2012 03:21 GMT
#83
On October 20 2012 12:10 vaderseven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 10:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On October 20 2012 10:01 iamperfection wrote:
On October 20 2012 09:53 Hapahauli wrote:
@ iamperfection

Welcome to the dick pics party! Whaddya think of policy and whatnot?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376602&currentpage=2#25

Im all for using votes to apply pressure and we don't have to worry about someone doing a stupid hammer it wont happen. However all this policy talk bores me time for some action.

On October 20 2012 09:14 DarthPunk wrote:
Hi drazak? What is your role?

blatant blue hunting darthpunk. Why not ask alignment instead of role?

Talk to me darthpunk i wish to know more.
## Vote DarthPunk




Every scum is going to claim green. If I ask role instead of alignment he can't fake claim later.


Really you stand by that?

You don't care about the alignment someone claims (and why should you at this stage of day 1, it would be joke posts at best)... and you want to peg someone on either claiming their role or lieing about in thread. When asked to explain it you don't fall back on 'jokepost lol' and instead give us this line about setting someone up to be caught in a lie?

I r confused. Thats like too scummy in a bad way to be possibly true. I have to write it off as just stupid.


If he is scum it would have made him uncomfortable and potentially reduces his options. It was obviously a throwaway line
but like most things I post there was some further motivation behind it. Not just: 'what role r u?LOLOLOL'

It was some small amount of pressure early. No blue is going to claim. No scum is going to claim. People are reading way too much into this.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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