EPTI'm a total newbie (playing now in NMM XXVIII as my first game ever on a forum) but I would like to try a themed game if you don't mind
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Looney Lynching Mini Mafia
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Djodref
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I'm a total newbie (playing now in NMM XXVIII as my first game ever on a forum) but I would like to try a themed game if you don't mind /in | ||
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It's going to be a long day ^^ When does the game is suppose to start ? | ||
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I'm already on Wednesday here  | ||
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I'm just dropping by because it's my lunch break now and I've just seen the game had begun already. For those who don't know it already, I'm a French guy and I work in Korea ^^ It's my second mafia game on a forum (I've just been cop on the NMM XVIII game) so I just hope to have better reads than last time. I'm on a business trip right now so I don't have much time but I'll my best to catch up tonight. I didn't put so much thoughts in the lynch rules but it looks easy for scum to avoid a lynch imo by voting their concurents in the early stages of the championship. | ||
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Djodref
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I think giving ourselves rules for voting is going to give mafia an opportunity to blend in and/or to take advantages of these rules. I guess it should be ok if we just vote for the people we find scummy. Moreover, the more time we discuss about the rules we should use, the less time we have for scumhunting. It's also a golden opportunity for the mafia to look like they are participating while discussing the rules. According to this, Hiropro and Daoud have made scummy posts so far because it looks like they want to focus the discussion of the lynch rules. Also Daoud first post came off as weird in my eyes. It looks like he's going to prepare an excuse like "I didn't understand today's lynch principle" for later. @Daoud What was your motivation for your first post ? | ||
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I would like to say that I don't like people who are saying they are voting this one and this one but are not using the voting thread. I don't have a clear view on their motivations. So I'm going to show them the way I would like them to follow. On October 10 2012 19:48 kushm4sta wrote: voting momentoss because he's afk and I know his reads are bad voting original because austin has contributed way more already and he's known as a good player voting dauod because of his weird joke that made no sense... alien invaders what? bad reasons? yes subject to change? definintely This is an example of what I'm not going to do. On a side note, I don't like lurkers as well. ##Vote Memento ×1 original ×1 @hopeless would you mind explaining your gut feeling? Also I've just noticed that Kush ans ET have used the voting thread | ||
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what I find scummy is their insistance on the lynch mechanics. Their last posts end with open questions to discuss this subject even more. It's not enough for me to cast vote on them but I have hoped it could help us to drop this discussion for once and just start scumhunting. I believe that imposing ourself some rules is going to be detrimental for us and I don't want to argue about this. I'm not sure if I have addressed your concern so do not hesitate to ask me to precise some points. Good night ! | ||
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ok, I couldn’t express what I was thinking when I used the word motivation. I just really want people to be consistent with their vote here and their vote on the thread. I think it would help us to see who is commiting or not to what they proclaim in the thread. At least it would greatly help me, hence my votes ^^ | ||
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The feeling I got from them is that they were willing to spend more time discussing the lynch mechanics. I’ve compared them to sandroba and ET and I felt like those last ones want to close the discussion. I don‘t think that I have said that discussing lynch mechanics is scummy. What I wanted to say is that we cannot afford to much time doing this. So the people asking for more insight on their views are scummy imo. | ||
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On October 10 2012 20:30 Mementoss wrote: Guy, I wanted you to be town, why did you have to scum slip. For those that didn't catch it, ET implies he knows that how much more votes town has compared to mafia, implying he knows how many mafia there is. Minutes later, he asks if mafia count is known. Where did he get this number in the first place? I don't think he would just make it up out of thin air. EchelonTee x1 I've voted Mementoss because of this post. I was drunk yesterday and I thought he cast a vote in the thread without using the voting thread. At this time, ET also hadn't cast his vote on Homeless and I didn't understand his formatting reasons. I would have voted him if I could. I was totally wrong (I see it now) and I'll remove this vote. | ||
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I didn't like kush calling mementoss a bad player. It doesn't promote a good atmosphere for the discussion. But it fits his meta so I'm going to give him a pass on this one. I've not revealed anything scummy in his filter except that so he doesn't deserve a vote. prplhz's filter is full of one liners and I find his town read on me very scummy. The reason he gives for it is ridiculous. I'll drop a vote on him before going to work. @kush From what I understand, your last post in the voting thread is going to be taken in account for the final votes. I was just unvoting Mementoss with this post. | ||
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I wanted the discussion to stop and I've found this very post scummy. On October 10 2012 12:28 HiroPro wrote: So do you agree with my plan or not? Any ideas of your own? | ||
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Homeless has to bring more content so I want him to advance over Mementoss, he gets my vote. Prplhz is giving a town read for something I find insignificant and I don't like his posting style so far. I hope he is going to shape up. He gets my vote. OriginalName gets my vote for lurking hardcore. | ||
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I'm finally back from work and I'm going to relax a little bit then catch up with the filters. If you don't mind to give me a little time, I'm planning to give my thoughts on today's MUs. But first things first, @People who voted for me I can understand that you find me scummy. I think for the most part it comes from this post On October 10 2012 19:31 Djodref wrote: I totally second Thrawn's last post. I think giving ourselves rules for voting is going to give mafia an opportunity to blend in and/or to take advantages of these rules. I guess it should be ok if we just vote for the people we find scummy. Moreover, the more time we discuss about the rules we should use, the less time we have for scumhunting. It's also a golden opportunity for the mafia to look like they are participating while discussing the rules. According to this, Hiropro and Daoud have made scummy posts so far because it looks like they want to focus the discussion of the lynch rules. Also Daoud first post came off as weird in my eyes. It looks like he's going to prepare an excuse like "I didn't understand today's lynch principle" for later. @Daoud What was your motivation for your first post ? I would like to say that at the time I've made this post, the conversation in the thread was mainly about the lynch mechanics and I really didn't like it because scumhunting didn't even start. So I've noticed this post from Hiropro On October 10 2012 12:28 HiroPro wrote: So do you agree with my plan or not? Any ideas of your own? and this post from Daoud On October 10 2012 15:30 da0ud wrote: Indeed, this was not to be taken seriously. However, I am not sure why receiving a BYE on first round would not make you more likely to be lynched in the end. I have no problem with people discussing lynch mechanics and proposing some plans (if they have time to spare for this) but I think that orientating the conversation into this direction like the post from Hiro is scummy and trying to argue over something obvious like Daoud's post is scummy as well. I would like to add that I totally knew that Daoud was my opponent but it was not a reason for letting pass this, especially after his introduction post where he looked like he misunderstood the basic principles of this game. On a side note, Daoud really looks like a newb townie. I advice him to be careful with early association cases because I also thought I got the complete scumteam on D1 of my last newbie game In a result I just have been tunneling our town MVP until my death... And one last thing before studying the MUs. @Hopeless On October 11 2012 11:36 Hopeless1der wrote: /snip I'll ask again since no one responded last time: WILL YOU BE AVAILABLE AROUND THE DEADLINE (YES/NO)? PLEASE SELECT ONE RESPONSE. Hopeless1der: Yes Deadline is 11am for me and I have a meeting starting at 9am which should end my business trip. So I'm either going to be in meeting or on the way back to Seoul for the deadline. In the latter case, I should be able to check the thread with my phone. Now that I have answered your question, I would really like you to answer mine: Why are so concerned by people being around at deadline or not ? What are you trying to achieve exactly ? | ||
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Hopeless/Thrawn It's kind of night and day. Thrawn is active in the thread, gives good contributions and points out what is weird in other players posts. So far I have a slight town read on him. I would expect very good reasons for anyone wanting him to advance. Hopeless on the opposite has almost contributed nothing. He also seems strangely obsessed with people being around at deadline or not. Which is even stranger when you consider that it seems ok for him to unvote everything without warning just before the deadline. I'll develop later on Hopeless, hopefully with some insight from his side, but I would go as far as saying that he is my top scumread at the moment. Prediction: Hopeless advances to the Ro4 3-0 HiroPro/OriginalName At first glance this MU looks easy but it could be more interesting that it looks like. Once thing I have learned in my previous game is that obvious scum players are usually town (Kush being an exception of this rule^^). We could all agree that ON looks bad, like very very bad. Casting last minute panic votes (on me on top of that) after zero posts and not even properly explaining his motives is scummy as hell. But thinking about it, I cannot imagine any mafia player being this obvious. So I want to give him a second chance for today and see if he can make it up before the deadline. HiroPro hasn't posting that much and I didn't like his post encouraging people to share their thoughts and plans about the lynch mechanics. Right now, I would vote him over ON but I don't want to spend more than 3 votes on this (I didn't keep my 10 votes like, let's say, Hopeless). Prediction: ON advaces against my will to the Round 4 5-3 Sandroba/Kush Regarding this entertaining MU, I'd like to state first that I know Kush meta for having read some newbie games but I don't know at all Sandroba. Kush is going to look scummy whatever his alignment. Given his low aggressive level in this game, I would opt for a scummy town Kush. But he has been clustering the thread a lot and I know that it could be his strategy as a scummy scum Kush. So null read for me atm. As he is difficult to read, Kush could become a liability for us in the endgame regardless of his alignment but he could give us good insight if he is town. Anyway, I wouldn't mind him to be more pressured because he slipped very quickly last game. Sandroba is also a null read atm. I would like him to post more before and I would not hesitate to vote him rather than Kush if it looks scummy. Prediction: Kush advances to the Ro4 5-4 (not planning to vote on this MU at the moment) Djodref/EchelonTee Please feel free to ask me some precisions about my motives and posts^^ I have just skimmed through his filter because I cannot pressure him with my votes this round. If you don't mind, I'm going to concentrate on other player's filters and let you decide which one of us is advancing. Nevertheless, I've noticed 2-3 things of interest:
I don't want to predict anything for this MU Votes coming soon, hoping for a quick feedback before going to bed... | ||
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Djodref
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You are saying that crazy things happen during the few hours before the deadline yet you have removed your votes at the end of the round one. I find it paradoxal because, in my opinion, the way you can protect ourselves from crazy things to happen is too stick with our votes. Unvoting at last minute is giving more opportunity for MUs to be won be the dark horse. Last round, OriginalName could have reversed some MUs because you gave him room to do it. I can see town and mafia motivations for keeping 10 votes so I'll pass you that. I can see town and mafia motivations for knowing the schedule of the player so I'll pass you that. But I don't like the way you unvoted at all and I don't explain myself the aforementioned paradox. Could you please explain yourself? And last but not least, we don't have any trace of your voting intentions in the recap at the end of the round. It really looks like you don't want to play cards on the table. | ||
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I'll check the thread when I wake up and I hope to be here for the deadline I'm sure to sleep better if I vote Hopeless before going to bed Hopeless x1 | ||
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I finally got away from the meeting ^^ I just have caught up with the thread on my phone. First I would like to say that the predictions were a (failed) attempt to make my comments look like a starcraft MU preview. Thank you Kush for understanding me and believing in me Just a quick post about the people who are going to advance:
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