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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
September 25 2012 15:46 GMT
#15
I can only give one fuck about this game:

FUCK THE 4 AM DEADLINE ;____;
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
September 26 2012 10:55 GMT
#56
Uhh Hello, just realized it started, watching Mvp destroy MKP.

On votes, I agree that we should use FoS early because a random scum piling on X might just doom X to death, especially considering if a scum just sheeps on a case.
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
September 26 2012 10:56 GMT
#57
On September 26 2012 15:28 phagga wrote:
Wow, 9 hours into the game and we don't even have 2 pages.

I am against a random lynch because in an instant majority game it might shortcut the discussion and therefore won't be helpfull. Also, there is the trust issue.

Sinensis, why dont you want the Boxers to claim?

Also, where is Bluelightz? 4am has long past.


I am at school. (Not anymore though).
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
September 26 2012 14:58 GMT
#71
@Thrawn,

Why are you complaining that people are discussing about useless stuff while you proposed an equally useless random lynch argument?
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
September 27 2012 01:46 GMT
#91
iamP, my overall plan for this game is to post when I can, I'm at school right now but I can't post more besides this till later.
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
September 27 2012 12:46 GMT
#102
Okay, back from school, ate dinner and took a bath and so it's mafia time.

Suspicions

I'm currently interested in Ottoxlol and austinmcc.

austinmcc: He might be scum because he hasn't done ANY scum-hunting, just useless role discussion that won't get us anywhere unless there IS the role.

Ottoxlol: Has a suspicion on SnB, better then austinmcc, but the reason why?


On September 27 2012 19:08 Ottoxlol wrote:
My take on SnB is that he really has to step up his game or I will vote him.

First he suggest a random lynch, he doesnt reply to why would anyone do that, then comes out with this "scum would freak out", I ask him why would they, he doesnt reply. Then says I am scum because I write short posts and doesnt contribute:

SnB, out of all the players why did you choose me? At that moment there was plenty of players with less or around the same content/posts as me. For example you had only one post (the last one, calling shiaopi and me out) other then the whole random lynch thing.


First reason, he points out why SnB is scum, but doesn't point out that the point he pointed out is neccesarily scummy. Second, completely unrelated with why SnB is scum, "why me? why lynch me?!". These points I think are scummy because this post feels like it's a post that want's to dodge giving information to town.

As well as, besides his suspicion post, his post's are all about Hammering etc, and they are truly short. This point is scummy because he's just spending time posting useless post's that won't help finding and killing scum.




Out of the both, austinmcc seems more likely to be town then Ottox to me.

##FoS: austinmcc and Ottoxlol
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
September 27 2012 12:49 GMT
#103
@thrawn,

do you has scum reads? The only thing you pointed out is that one of SnB's post's are trying to fish blues, as well as in the same post you say random lynch is useless while you yourself propoed a random lynch earlier.

+ Show Spoiler +


On September 27 2012 07:14 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 04:45 phagga wrote:But tell me, thrawn, who is a scummy person in this game, and why? Do you already see someone?


This post struck me as weird:

Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 05:27 strongandbig wrote:shiaopi i am calling you out. last game we played together you derped your way through because you were blue, then you solved the game but it was too late. If you're town I call on you to play this whole game for reals even if you are blue, you've shown you can do good analysis (even if your case wasn't very well presented, you did solve the game) so people are going to want you to keep doing it now. what do you think about ottoxlol.


When I read that it seemed like it could be a cleverly written request for better play and it's hiding that strongandbig's actually fishing to try and make a blue read. Like if strongandbig is mafia, and he knows shiaopi is town (which is what I'm getting from the way strongandbig talks to shiaopi) and he's got a meta blue-shiaopi read, then he's baiting shiaopi who he considers might be blue into posting more in order to get his blue read. And his random lynch post seemed pointless... enough people have seen random lynch suggestions in games to know why they're made so if he's town I don't see why he'd think it'd work. And as a discussion starter, same thing. It's been seen enough that when it's made people will instead just talk about the meta of random lynch suggestions.

strongandbig what is your read on shiaopi?

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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
September 27 2012 12:53 GMT
#106
On September 27 2012 21:53 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 21:49 Bluelightz wrote:
@thrawn,

do you has scum reads? The only thing you pointed out is that one of SnB's post's are trying to fish blues, as well as in the same post you say random lynch is useless while you yourself propoed a random lynch earlier.


I don't see how my earlier post about rnd lynch makes you think I was seriously proposing the idea. And yeah right now I'm most wary of snb.


Besides the point you pointed out, anything else on SnB?
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
September 27 2012 14:56 GMT
#123
On September 27 2012 22:02 Ottoxlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 21:46 Bluelightz wrote:
Okay, back from school, ate dinner and took a bath and so it's mafia time.

Suspicions

I'm currently interested in Ottoxlol and austinmcc.

austinmcc: He might be scum because he hasn't done ANY scum-hunting, just useless role discussion that won't get us anywhere unless there IS the role.

Ottoxlol: Has a suspicion on SnB, better then austinmcc, but the reason why?


On September 27 2012 19:08 Ottoxlol wrote:
My take on SnB is that he really has to step up his game or I will vote him.

First he suggest a random lynch, he doesnt reply to why would anyone do that, then comes out with this "scum would freak out", I ask him why would they, he doesnt reply. Then says I am scum because I write short posts and doesnt contribute:

SnB, out of all the players why did you choose me? At that moment there was plenty of players with less or around the same content/posts as me. For example you had only one post (the last one, calling shiaopi and me out) other then the whole random lynch thing.


First reason, he points out why SnB is scum, but doesn't point out that the point he pointed out is neccesarily scummy. Second, completely unrelated with why SnB is scum, "why me? why lynch me?!". These points I think are scummy because this post feels like it's a post that want's to dodge giving information to town.

As well as, besides his suspicion post, his post's are all about Hammering etc, and they are truly short. This point is scummy because he's just spending time posting useless post's that won't help finding and killing scum.




Out of the both, austinmcc seems more likely to be town then Ottox to me.

##FoS: austinmcc and Ottoxlol


I don't understand this one, its the same as SnB, you had 3 posts before this one, one is a question, the other 2 are excuses. How can you call out others on things you do as well?


Are you just dodging my question? Oh, ##Vote: Ottoxlol. Proper defense please.
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
September 27 2012 15:17 GMT
#125
Before I sleep, I advocate not lynching thrawn because, he's very active, and very open with his suspicions (SnB), and responsive to questions. I don't think mafia would be like this.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
September 27 2012 15:20 GMT
#126
On September 28 2012 00:15 Ottoxlol wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 27 2012 23:56 Bluelightz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 22:02 Ottoxlol wrote:
On September 27 2012 21:46 Bluelightz wrote:
Okay, back from school, ate dinner and took a bath and so it's mafia time.

Suspicions

I'm currently interested in Ottoxlol and austinmcc.

austinmcc: He might be scum because he hasn't done ANY scum-hunting, just useless role discussion that won't get us anywhere unless there IS the role.

Ottoxlol: Has a suspicion on SnB, better then austinmcc, but the reason why?


On September 27 2012 19:08 Ottoxlol wrote:
My take on SnB is that he really has to step up his game or I will vote him.

First he suggest a random lynch, he doesnt reply to why would anyone do that, then comes out with this "scum would freak out", I ask him why would they, he doesnt reply. Then says I am scum because I write short posts and doesnt contribute:

SnB, out of all the players why did you choose me? At that moment there was plenty of players with less or around the same content/posts as me. For example you had only one post (the last one, calling shiaopi and me out) other then the whole random lynch thing.


First reason, he points out why SnB is scum, but doesn't point out that the point he pointed out is neccesarily scummy. Second, completely unrelated with why SnB is scum, "why me? why lynch me?!". These points I think are scummy because this post feels like it's a post that want's to dodge giving information to town.

As well as, besides his suspicion post, his post's are all about Hammering etc, and they are truly short. This point is scummy because he's just spending time posting useless post's that won't help finding and killing scum.




Out of the both, austinmcc seems more likely to be town then Ottox to me.

##FoS: austinmcc and Ottoxlol


I don't understand this one, its the same as SnB, you had 3 posts before this one, one is a question, the other 2 are excuses. How can you call out others on things you do as well?


Are you just dodging my question? Oh, ##Vote: Ottoxlol. Proper defense please.


Did you answer to that post? No. Who is dodging what then?

I don't feel like there have been anything to take a stance on, random lynch was stupid, there was talk about Boxers claiming that was stupid too. I don't think that the way is to pick someone at random (me) then start voting because I did not hunt scum/ post a lot, meanwhile SnB, Bluelight, iamperfection, SInensis, phagga or austin posted similar to me in quality and quantity.

I don't see why is it ok to vote for someone because he's just asking questions and has nothing new to add in the beginning but if it is so please I ask it again, SnB and Bluelight why would you vote me over the others?




No, I picked at you because I saw your post's and they took my attention. But ok, good defense I guess. ##Unvote: Ottoxlol. BTW, who do you think is scum?
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
September 27 2012 15:29 GMT
#129
On September 28 2012 00:22 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 00:17 Bluelightz wrote:
Before I sleep, I advocate not lynching thrawn because, he's very active, and very open with his suspicions (SnB), and responsive to questions. I don't think mafia would be like this.


Why would Mafia not do that? According to you, that makes them look townie, which is what they try to achieve.


If you look at it from a mafia perspective I don't think mafia would be that open in giving information out out to town, as well as, if you say it that way, wouldn't all the things you are doing is trying to achieve mafia's objective?
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
September 27 2012 15:30 GMT
#130
On September 28 2012 00:26 Ottoxlol wrote:
I am suspicious about SnB mainly because he still did not answer why would scum freak out at random lynch. Maybe I am wrong but I asked him to explain it to me: I see random lynch as an advantage of scum and he suggested it in the first place. Also I have the same problem with his fos on me that was with your vote, I would like to read why me over the others mentioned. I won't vote for him atm, but looking forward to his explanation.


Then who will you vote for?
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
September 27 2012 15:33 GMT
#133
On September 28 2012 00:32 Ottoxlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 00:30 Bluelightz wrote:
On September 28 2012 00:26 Ottoxlol wrote:
I am suspicious about SnB mainly because he still did not answer why would scum freak out at random lynch. Maybe I am wrong but I asked him to explain it to me: I see random lynch as an advantage of scum and he suggested it in the first place. Also I have the same problem with his fos on me that was with your vote, I would like to read why me over the others mentioned. I won't vote for him atm, but looking forward to his explanation.


Then who will you vote for?


I will wait for him to post, then we will see


Why the fixation on SnB? Why is SnB so pivotal for your reads?
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
September 27 2012 15:42 GMT
#134
My stance for today: austinmcc, because his post's are about hammering/setup, and only about hammering/setup, he hasn't attempted any scum-hunting at all, which is scummy because discussing about hammer/setup brings us no closer to victory. As well as, in his most recent game - Rockband Mini Mafia - he atleast already had suspicions on someone, not like here, when it's already 48 hours and more into the game.

##Vote: austinmcc
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
September 27 2012 16:26 GMT
#137
On September 28 2012 00:55 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 00:29 Bluelightz wrote:
On September 28 2012 00:22 phagga wrote:
On September 28 2012 00:17 Bluelightz wrote:
Before I sleep, I advocate not lynching thrawn because, he's very active, and very open with his suspicions (SnB), and responsive to questions. I don't think mafia would be like this.


Why would Mafia not do that? According to you, that makes them look townie, which is what they try to achieve.


If you look at it from a mafia perspective I don't think mafia would be that open in giving information out out to town, as well as, if you say it that way, wouldn't all the things you are doing is trying to achieve mafia's objective?


Of course Mafia tries to achieve their objective, I just find it dangerous to say that mafia would not do something because only townies do something/take that risk. If an action means you can look more townier, than it might be a good idea to risk it as scum, to get some towncred.


So, EVERYTHING Thrawn did is an action that supposedly makes him townier?
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
September 28 2012 03:01 GMT
#189
austin, would you kindly respond to my accusation?
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
September 28 2012 04:10 GMT
#196
On September 28 2012 12:13 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 12:01 Bluelightz wrote:
austin, would you kindly respond to my accusation?

Sure.
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2012 00:42 Bluelightz wrote:
My stance for today: austinmcc, because his post's are about hammering/setup, and only about hammering/setup, he hasn't attempted any scum-hunting at all, which is scummy because discussing about hammer/setup brings us no closer to victory. As well as, in his most recent game - Rockband Mini Mafia - he atleast already had suspicions on someone, not like here, when it's already 48 hours and more into the game.

##Vote: austinmcc

This bit? I know I was also FoSed in a post with ottox and I, but it seemed like that was for mostly the same reasoning.

I don't take issue with what you're saying. Like...I can't refute that I was not doing other things. Nor did any of that discussion end up as a jumping off point to any activity.

Rockband and this have been different games. There we had early movement and activity, gave me lots to look through. Here not so much. I've been poking around some today, and will be tomorrow. It's up to you to determine whether you find it scummy that I've been more active recently or not (I would suggest a town read, but ymmv).



Ah, Okay. ##Unvote.

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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
September 28 2012 13:58 GMT
#215
I think thrawn is town, no way scum would let him go like this.
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
September 28 2012 13:59 GMT
#217
Oh yeah, missed question from Sinensis:

@Bluelightz: Your vote had the least amount of analysis behind it of any vote so far. Are you sticking with your vote or was that just to put pressure on austinmcc to start scum hunting? I will be curious to see if you and austinmcc have a dialog.

Out of my current scum reads at the time I saw sure ottox was town after his reponse so I voted austin, austin has responded nicely so I unvoted him as well.
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