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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
September 24 2012 19:40 GMT
#10
/in
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
September 25 2012 21:43 GMT
#27
Helvetica games are always stuff for legend.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
September 30 2012 19:58 GMT
#172
I'm thinking we kill kush. All in favor?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 01 2012 07:53 GMT
#268
##Vote Shady
On the KingJames situation. You guys sure can take some grass and call it a forest. Or misrepresenting and lying as the factual terms are. I dislike defending people unless I'm heavily certain they are town but I mean spouting bullshit on how he's been fake-contributing day1 while half the thread have barely said a word strikes me as heavily weird. More suspicious still the people praising it as legit case. You can't all be scum so are you deliberately ignorant?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 01 2012 10:13 GMT
#275
On October 01 2012 17:25 Kreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 16:53 risk.nuke wrote:
##Vote Shady
On the KingJames situation. You guys sure can take some grass and call it a forest. Or misrepresenting and lying as the factual terms are. I dislike defending people unless I'm heavily certain they are town but I mean spouting bullshit on how he's been fake-contributing day1 while half the thread have barely said a word strikes me as heavily weird. More suspicious still the people praising it as legit case. You can't all be scum so are you deliberately ignorant?

Yes, because fake-contributing is more scummy than not contributing at all. It should be quite common to have both town and scum hiding among the low post count and little contribution posters. But there is no reason for a town to fake contribute ever (even though new town players probably often feel that way). There are motives for both town and scum to lurk, but there are no (good) motives for town to fake-contribute.

Not only do you seem unaware/ignorant of this, your post also raises other questions/concerns:
1) Point me towards the "spouting bullshit" parts. You make it sound like you're disagreeing he is fake-contributing. Is that correct? Whats your take on his posting in that case, if you dont see it as fake-contributing?
2) You vote person A and spend time writing why you didnt vote person B. You havent said a word to back up your Shady vote, and the only thing your filter contains is a suggested Kush-vote. So why did you vote Shady?
3) Are you sitll in favor of a Kush-vote? If so, why?

Fist things first. Now you don't have the first clue about what fake-contribution is which makes it difficult to discuss the subject. A person fake-contributing is someone floating around, have proven to be active + Show Spoiler +
otherwise they must fall into the lurker category untill they reach a certain amount of posts which has nothing whatsoever do to with their posts/day ratio) Meaning they can be both lurkers and fake-contributers but not for a couple of days.
and at a first glance looks too be blending in but taking a closer looks you see the majority of this persons contributions belong for instance and example in the following categorys. Setup-speculation, answering general and setup related questions or alignment speculation and other things but scumhunting. I like to define the categorys as posts scum can make without advancing the thread in any way and extend it to answering questions that if they don't answer or post it someone else very likely will. Note: this can include important and even great posts if they fall in the category someone else was bound to post it sooner or later.

As for most fake-contributing posts they are not some sort of evil posts in disguise only visible to your lens of truth. They are simply general posts and most often helpful to a lesser degree. Most importantly what you don't grasp is both townies and scum do them and are because of this null-tells. I have absolutely no idea what you mean when you say townies have absolutely no purpose fake-contributing. It's purified dumb.

1 Having now explained the term fake-contributor I can answer your post. It's bullshit to call someone a fake-contributor day 1 almost without exception because it's in generally to early to tell the persons agenda.
2 I voted for shady because it's down to him versus KingJames. Additionally I agreed and considered Shady being scummy even as I suggested the kush lynch. Which was done because I didn't want to sheep others the first thing I did (because there is little value in that) and because I wanted to discuss other candidates then shady (which was shutdown asap by marv, but nevertheless told me something about marv) As for why I choose kush the filters weren't implied so I picked the first suspicious filter I found.
3 A kush lynch i don't see happening and a voteswitch to kush now I'd disagree with because my suspicion against a successful late bandwagon switch would be greater then my suspicion against kush. (Node. you're late to the party.) If you rephrase the question. Am I still suspicious against kush I will tell you I think kush is scummier now then I did at the time I suggested the vote on him.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 01 2012 12:28 GMT
#279
His read on coag is pretty freely interpreted. And coag is coag. Veterans are allowed more rope to say things like it's obvious because we're harder against each other if they fail to be consistent and deliver when questioned, which is why alot of people like coag and mattchew appear lazy.

VE seems like a usual VE to me. The conflict with annul I don't see as fabriced. Z-Boson claims VE goes from not suspecting KJ to wanting to kill him in the same post but what I read is he said "I find nothing scummy about KJ's input on scumhunting". Which isn't the same thing. Maybe I'm ill informed about this since I'm reading it out of context so correct me if there is more.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 01 2012 13:14 GMT
#285
Sharrant, what have taken you so long to get involved in the game?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 01 2012 13:35 GMT
#289
On October 01 2012 22:27 Z-BosoN wrote:
I don't know coag, and I don't know VE.
On coag, its a pity that's how he plays then, I hate ppl like that. Hope seeing his brilliant play in day 2.
I still don't like how VE attacked annul though, but given this was the beggining of day one I don't necessarily think that part is scum motivated. I'd like him to be clearer on KJ, though.
Risk, yea you should read my post, I specifically addressed that.
Marv, I just don't feel that way. Shady usually comes off scummy as shit no matter his alignment, so I don't think that is enough to push a lynch.

bolded is not going to happen.
I read your post. I was asking for context if there were any. Don't tell me to go read your post again. If there is more, explain it so I understand what you mean. Don't tell me to go guess what you mean.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 01 2012 14:51 GMT
#298
Marv, thoughts on Sharrant?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 01 2012 21:39 GMT
#380
BC shows up and posts a great amount of shit.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 01 2012 22:07 GMT
#390
BC talk to me scumshit. You show up late with a forced post in which you wildly misinterpret what I said, trying to twist find loopholes in my words too frame shit on me and. Additionally you state out of the blue you want to lynch 3 new targets with half of europe asleep untill the daypost. What are you trying to accomplish and how are you trying to make that happen?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 01 2012 22:14 GMT
#394
And where the hell are you Sharrant!
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 01 2012 22:35 GMT
#402
It's forced because it screams I need to make up a post about someone fast. That's the only possible reason you typed up a shitpost like that. You can't even have had time to properly read through it. And if you did read through it you must have once again felt forced or you would had deleted that shit.

I never said I thought shady was scummy in the thread. Nor did I claim to have had. So how can you say I'm lying. I stated that I was suspicious of him and I was. I give reasoning for the rest of my actions which I sincerely wonder if you've even read. But your case isn't that you have a problem with my reasoning. You just straight out attempt to misinterpret it to the thread.

I said I thought kush was scummier now then then which to me translates into. Kush has done absolutely nothing to redeem himself of my suspicions. On the contrary the posts he's made has only made me more suspicious. But no fucking where do I say that he's my strongest scumread.

Leaving out the name calling generalizations of my posts. These are your only 2 actual points against me which are both fucking untrue.

And don't think you can claim coming in late bringing not one but three new names to the table and expected it to generate anything but distraction from the other candidates.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 01 2012 22:47 GMT
#408
On October 02 2012 07:39 Sharrant wrote:
@Risk.Nuke
I was at work like I said I would be. I did have to cover for someone for an extra hour, that's why I was late getting on here.

In response to your earlier question, on Saturday I worked all day, then went to another city for Nuit Blanche, then came back to work despite not having slept because my boss asked me if I could cover for someone who was sick. After that it was Sunday night, I saw that I had a PM, saw it was about this game, and was way too fucking tired to do anything. So I set my alarm early to give myself time to make one decent post in the morning before work. Unfortunately I was so rushed I forgot to actually follow with my vote, and I felt really stupid about halfway into work. I'm a little surprised no one called me out on it.

I'm just going to post this part now, the rest will follow in a little bit. Just reading through filters.

Nope, don't buy it.

The guy clearly had insight in what's going on so I'm making the assumption that he's been following the thread. And when a player lurk hard with that kind of first and only post I'm getting pretty damn suspicious he's discussing the game elsewhere.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 01 2012 22:55 GMT
#409
BC not posting my suspicion doesn't mean I didn't have them. It means I can't prove I had them. It's not the same as a small lie which I don't believe for a second you don't understand.

You want to be usefull. Who would you vote for amongst the people with votes.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 01 2012 23:09 GMT
#412
It wouldn't be possible for me to lead a sharrant wagon tonight even if we had more time and europe wasn't asleep. I should have already gone to sleep If only I could decide where I should leave my vote.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 01 2012 23:10 GMT
#414
On October 02 2012 08:07 kushm4sta wrote:
risk is usually like this?
why would you call someone scumshit...they didn't choose to roll scum and you don't have to insult them for it.

because scum are evil and mafia games gets emotional.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 01 2012 23:21 GMT
#418
On October 02 2012 08:10 mkfuba07 wrote:
How do you feel about austin, risk?

I don't know and I'm not planning to go over him tonight.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 03 2012 20:37 GMT
#1011
Who on that list would do you feel like going after then BC, I've been wanting to go after Sharrant however having been to lazy to actually read the last 20-25ish pages properly+ Show Spoiler +
King procastination first due to a 10 page gap after day 1 and then marv instantly outing himself.
it felt inapropriate to make up my mind who I want to lynch.

While I'm posting, people who voted marv before this are more suspicious then the rest. Seeing as the mafia knew risen did protect marvellosity while the rest of us would still have to deal with other possibilitys, my point is that mafia would probably have wanted to get on marv as quickly as possible.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 05 2012 13:09 GMT
#1230
I guess godfather explains why you got so upset.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
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