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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
September 25 2012 01:24 GMT
#23
/in
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
September 30 2012 04:18 GMT
#81
Hola, mi amigos.

Man, that flavor text is gruesome.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
September 30 2012 04:31 GMT
#89
Yea, okay I don't want to read that all game.

Why did you let him in again, DrH?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
September 30 2012 04:46 GMT
#97
You know what game you played well in?

I'll give you a hint: we were masons together.

Now, why did you play well that game? Because you were confirmed town status? No. You played well because you listened to BH about how a townie should think and act. Go back and read your conversations with him, please for the love of god.

Otherwise I'm completely fine with voting you if DrH doesn't plan to modkill or replace you. Because I honestly don't want to put up with that shit for the whole game.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
September 30 2012 06:11 GMT
#117
On September 30 2012 14:46 Mattchew wrote:
yo im town lets get after it

does anyone know what trolling is anymore? that word gets thrown around so wrongly and it makes me angry

anyway annul has the only post in the thread that is worth reading


Hypocritical much?

It took you 3 posts before you actually said something worth reading.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
September 30 2012 14:11 GMT
#131
On September 30 2012 22:35 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 22:30 Kreb wrote:
@kush

You still didnt reply to what you dont like about Shadys content.


I apologize for my lack of specificity. I dislike his content because it is all caps nonsense. Not even proper trolling, just spam.

SO ALL CAPS = SCUM? I don't follow your logic.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
September 30 2012 14:32 GMT
#137
Okay, so just to be clear, was your vote on Shady a policy lynch because:

On September 30 2012 20:03 kushm4sta wrote:
I voted for shady because he called me a troll.
There is no one better to vote for atm. I might as well vote for someone who was mean to me and has a history of being mean to me.

Also I'm not a fan of his content.


Or a scum lynch because:

On September 30 2012 21:54 kushm4sta wrote:
I like to always have my vote on my top scumread. Even if it's a weak read. FOS is reserved for secondary scumreads.
GLHF
I will try not to act mature and not be an attention whore.

On September 30 2012 22:35 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 22:30 Kreb wrote:
@kush

You still didnt reply to what you dont like about Shadys content.


I apologize for my lack of specificity. I dislike his content because it is all caps nonsense. Not even proper trolling, just spam.


Honestly, either one is terrible reasoning.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
September 30 2012 15:44 GMT
#153
Oh yea, I forgot about that.

On September 29 2012 10:37 BlackMamba24 wrote:
game will start with a 24 hr night 0 by the way


But then:

On September 30 2012 13:14 BlackMamba24 wrote:
[center]Day 1

... snip

The game has started. If you have not been sent a role PM, PM me immediately. Do not ask questions in the thread. Good luck. Night 1 will begin approximately 48 hours from now.


So is it day or night?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
September 30 2012 15:45 GMT
#154
Oh, even quoting it, i missed the part about not asking questions in the thread. I am terrible at reading comprehension, apparently.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
September 30 2012 16:04 GMT
#157
Okay, so it is actually Day 1. Carry on.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
September 30 2012 16:06 GMT
#158
@KJ:

Can you tell me what is scummy about that post of mine you quoted? I mean, its one thing to say something is scummy, but you didn't give any reasoning.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
September 30 2012 16:15 GMT
#160
On October 01 2012 01:12 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 01:06 Keirathi wrote:
@KJ:

Can you tell me what is scummy about that post of mine you quoted? I mean, its one thing to say something is scummy, but you didn't give any reasoning.


At the time, within the context of the game, it just seemed contrived. I read it as a mafia who was trying to sound Town. I'm not saying that you're mafia, just that the post sounded that way.


Contrived? I have a shared history with Shady, and I wanted him to man up and play like I know that he's capable of, rather than like an ass.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
September 30 2012 22:53 GMT
#190
On October 01 2012 07:51 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 07:43 slOosh wrote:
On October 01 2012 06:18 iamperfection wrote:
On October 01 2012 06:15 slOosh wrote:
This is the most upsetting start to a game I've played. So I'm gonna lay some ground rules because people are playing in a way that they shirk responsibilities with their actions / words.

Biggest thing is stop saying "I wanna lynch player X what do you think?". There is no back up analysis, and it allows people to toss out names at random. You think someone is scum, back it up. Don't say "seems scummy maybe". It lets people sow seeds of suspicion and it makes mislynches more untraceable.


Shady's vote makes no sense as VE pointed out. In fact the whole thing doesn't make sense, including how he has already started making connective tells on Kush based on Z-Boson. But it seems just as explainable by a combination of poor play / leftover emotions from TL-LVII. I'd wait to see what he can produce (case wise or whatnot) since arguing whether acting like a troll to incite a mod warning isn't conclusive to determining alignment.

VE I don't see your issue with annul - or are you doing one of those reaction things because its leaning on the destructive side right now.

Thats why i would like to lynch the nuke guy. come in to thread and says he wants to lynch someone and leaves. So do you think he is scum like i do?

Well I've played with risk a couple times and he plays the more hands off approach as town. He takes his time with things and doesn't care what people think if he thinks he is right. At the same time he can be totally lazy so you have to wait for him to generate content then evaluate what he brings. Cf. PYP3, Poison Mini Mafia, Beauracracy and Dwarf Mini (town, scum town respective). So right now I'm null on him.

What is your take on kush? Easy mislynch or newbie scum?

i obsed his two last games(He rolled scum i both). i would say hes a bit ...unstable.

however he slips a lot and has many break downs in logic in his scum games that i saw. If he is scum he will slip eventually.

He has those same break downs in logic as town too. I think the difference is his attitude. But he's aware of how his attitude changes when he rolls scum (he commented on it a few posts up), so he could potentially change it.

For now, I don't think he is scummy.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 01 2012 01:25 GMT
#202
Kind of frustrating that we're halfway through D1 and half the people haven't even posted.

Anyways, regarding Shady and KJ:

On September 30 2012 13:41 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 13:33 ShiaoPi wrote:
Shady is there any reason for trolling? Its just fucking stupid and pointless

Because no one ever punishes Chez or Kushm4sta or YourHarry or GRush or BM for it

why should i play the game seriously when i end up getting mislynched or shot anyways, even AHEAD OF THE OBVIOUS FUCKING NON CONTRIBUTORY TROLLING IDIOTS =)

He wants to troll to buy a free-ride through the game because he thinks that's automatically why those players make it to endgame.

I don't buy that it was a gambit to get a mod to threaten trolling.

That said, I'm hesitant to jump on the bandwagon because its so...easy. Which is ironic, because THATS the reason that people like BM and grush make it to endgame. Not because they troll, but because lynching them is the easy way out for scum when they are town.


As far as KJ, I just want to say that I wasn't even getting defensive. I was legitimately trying to figure out his thinking, and explain myself. That he got defensive to my questions, and then decided on a wishy-washy stance rather than taking a firm opinion and trying to explain himself make me question his motives. Just throwing mud out for the sake of appearing like he was contributing?

For now: ##Vote: kingjame01
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 01 2012 01:38 GMT
#205
The scum motivation is that he feels trolling could buy him a free ride to the endgame because it has for people like grush/BM/YH/you (although I disagree with you being lumped in with those guys) in the past.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 01 2012 01:55 GMT
#211
On October 01 2012 10:54 marvellosity wrote:
P.S. GUISE! Am I the only one who wants to use the voting thread?!

There's a voting thread? News to me :o
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 01 2012 01:55 GMT
#212
On October 01 2012 10:52 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 10:25 Keirathi wrote:
Kind of frustrating that we're halfway through D1 and half the people haven't even posted.

Anyways, regarding Shady and KJ:

On September 30 2012 13:41 Shady Sands wrote:
On September 30 2012 13:33 ShiaoPi wrote:
Shady is there any reason for trolling? Its just fucking stupid and pointless

Because no one ever punishes Chez or Kushm4sta or YourHarry or GRush or BM for it

why should i play the game seriously when i end up getting mislynched or shot anyways, even AHEAD OF THE OBVIOUS FUCKING NON CONTRIBUTORY TROLLING IDIOTS =)

He wants to troll to buy a free-ride through the game because he thinks that's automatically why those players make it to endgame.

I don't buy that it was a gambit to get a mod to threaten trolling.

That said, I'm hesitant to jump on the bandwagon because its so...easy. Which is ironic, because THATS the reason that people like BM and grush make it to endgame. Not because they troll, but because lynching them is the easy way out for scum when they are town.


As far as KJ, I just want to say that I wasn't even getting defensive. I was legitimately trying to figure out his thinking, and explain myself. That he got defensive to my questions, and then decided on a wishy-washy stance rather than taking a firm opinion and trying to explain himself make me question his motives. Just throwing mud out for the sake of appearing like he was contributing?

For now: ##Vote: kingjame01


Yes it is ironic, because it's preventing you voting for him. Mission successful on you at least then? It's the inherent 'too scummy to be scum' defence which is bleh.

VE's post at the top of this page mostly covers my thoughts on both Shady and KJ. With kingjames, the general wishy washyness isn't *so* bad in general except for the fact that he just lumped those quotes in the thread in the first place. If you're not willing to uphold why you're doing so, it's just insidious suspicion placing.

With Shady, what I really really dislike is the bullshit after-the-fact explanation for his actions. It just reads as a lie trying to justify the dumb play in the first place. I've seen several instances of scum trying to justify shit after the fact... Kei, i think you were in that game with talis and his 'reads' plan where he was scum? On top of this is his absence from the thread afterwards. If you're seriously making a point about how trolling is bad (...) then at best it's completely hypocritcal to disappear without actually then providing any content.

Your response to it, Kei, is validation of Shady playing like that. Boo!

##Vote: Shady Sands

My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 01 2012 01:59 GMT
#216
Bleh, misclick. EBWOP: Yes, I realize that his behavior is actually accomplishing his goal, at least with me. I will say I have a hard time deciding when super-scummy play is actually scummy or just bad town play (hint: look at my IRC logs with marv in the post-game of Dwarf Fortress).

And yea, I was in Not Themed, where talis proposed his "Make a case on 3 people day1" plan. But I didn't think that was "too scummy to be scum", I just thought it was a bad plan. The fact that he proposed the same plan in multiple games of either alignment reaffirmed that to me. And in the end, I was wrong about him being scum.

Maybe I'm just bad :o
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 01 2012 02:13 GMT
#219
On September 30 2012 21:06 mkfuba07 wrote:
Hi guys. Didn't expect the game to start tonight, and I'm heading to bed soon, but I thought I'd poke my head in.

To elaborate a bit more on what I'm changing about my play (which I know I probably should have mentioned beforehand), I'm going to be posting more off the top of my head, without spending hours thinking about my posts and ultimately deciding not to post anything. Hopefully this will result in more posts, giving more insight into what I'm thinking. I'm mentioning this because (hopefully) this will be different than my previous meta, and it'll be easier to address it now than later.

Aside from the trolling thing, which he said he was going to do before the game started, Shady just seems like Shady to me.

Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 20:03 kushm4sta wrote:
I voted for shady because he called me a troll.
There is no one better to vote for atm. I might as well vote for someone who was mean to me and has a history of being mean to me.

Also I'm not a fan of his content.

What exactly don't you like about his content? So far your vote seems pretty empty.

I thought you were going to be posting more?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
October 01 2012 02:47 GMT
#223
On October 01 2012 11:39 kingjames01 wrote:
So what we're shifting towards is whether Shady's 'plan' to preempt trolling was legitimate or a cover-up?

That should not be the focus of our first day. Instead, I'd like Shady to come back to the thread and give us something more concrete.


Shady: what do you think about the assertion that I was being wishy-washy? Also, tell us if you have a spy read on anyone yet, who and why.


A spy read?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
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