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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 25 2012 01:18 GMT
#22
I thought you did rather "well" for your standards xD
Just listen to me next time!
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ShiaoPi
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September 30 2012 04:33 GMT
#93
Shady is there any reason for trolling? Its just fucking stupid and pointless
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
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September 30 2012 04:47 GMT
#98
On September 30 2012 13:41 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 13:33 ShiaoPi wrote:
Shady is there any reason for trolling? Its just fucking stupid and pointless

Because no one ever punishes Chez or Kushm4sta or YourHarry or GRush or BM for it

why should i play the game seriously when i end up getting mislynched or shot anyways, even AHEAD OF THE OBVIOUS FUCKING NON CONTRIBUTORY TROLLING IDIOTS =)


So your first thought is to mimick them to ruin even more games by trolling? Good job...


fuck you, like seriously, why the fuck do you sign up just to screw a game over, I thought you had maybe a plan or higher scheme to go along with this kind of bullshit...after losing LVII cause of grush and BM I thought it can't get worse...obviously I should have expected the worst....
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ShiaoPi
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September 30 2012 04:59 GMT
#104
Shady besides you with your /in post nobody on the list looks like an obvious troll/unreadable kind of guy. (besides grush on the replacement), so I do not think this whole "gambit" as you call it was necessary...
Spare me that kind of crap, you obviously wanted to troll around. you won't get thanks for nothing from me.
Still kind of angry here, I'll be out to grab lunch and cool off...
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
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September 30 2012 06:38 GMT
#121
On September 30 2012 15:16 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 13:59 ShiaoPi wrote:
Shady besides you with your /in post nobody on the list looks like an obvious troll/unreadable kind of guy. (besides grush on the replacement), so I do not think this whole "gambit" as you call it was necessary...
Spare me that kind of crap, you obviously wanted to troll around. you won't get thanks for nothing from me.
Still kind of angry here, I'll be out to grab lunch and cool off...

Hey i think your full of crap

Shadys actions made you angry enough to leave the computer just because shady
ALTernated With cap or typed in ALL CAPS. Come on

ya im not buying it and i think you just wanted to weigh in on the situation and then have an excuse to leave.

## Vote shiaoPI

Talk to me shiao i wish to know more.
[/b][/b]

just got back.

it made me angry, because I know that he can play a good/decent townplay (obsed the game where he was masoned with keirathi) there is no need to resort to trolling/being useless just because some people do not get penalized for it. Onto my so called "excuse". I was angry and also hungry since it was time for lunch....So I say that I am out for a bit of time to eat and cool off a bit......I am terribly sorry for having the human need to sustain myself....
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
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October 01 2012 08:15 GMT
#270
Uhhh...catching up
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
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October 01 2012 08:47 GMT
#274
@Shady:
Mind doing stuff? Do you still want to lynch Z-boson? If so why? What makes you think that there are smurfs? Anything you want to share from reading the filters?

In regards to KJ:
Reading his filter it just looks messy and kind of contradictory as many already pointed out. I am not so sure if he is scum though, for all this talk of "fake"-contributions, he has done more than many other players (me included) until now. If you look at his thoughtprocess from his point of view it kind of makes sense.....Conclusively said I would point him as nullish now, need more from him to read him better.
@KJ:
Who do you want to lynch and why?



LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
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October 01 2012 13:19 GMT
#286
Hey kush, mind popping back in and answering questions?
who would you rather lynch then? I think it is still more than enough time to get a new target out.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 01 2012 23:57 GMT
#445
Hmm..woke up and caught up for now.

Shady still has not responded to questions and basically has not done anything, which makes me want to lynch him right now, but he seems to be bound to be modkilled anyway. For now though: ##vote: Shady Sands

KJ's read on Mementoss is kind of a lazy way out as he was lurking at the time of the read.
Did Mementoss' recent posting change your read kingjames?

In regards to the other lynch-candidates:
Kush would have been pretty high in my scumlist, but he looks like his town meta that was linked earlier.

I have no clue about reading VE, but he looks alright to me, nothing screams scum.

On austin I am kind of split, but I would prefer to not lynch him today because he is quite an asset to town (if he is town aligned of course). While his absence and stuff had been worrying I would suggest waiting for day 2 on him.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 02 2012 00:09 GMT
#448
On October 02 2012 09:06 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2012 08:57 ShiaoPi wrote:
Hmm..woke up and caught up for now.

Shady still has not responded to questions and basically has not done anything, which makes me want to lynch him right now, but he seems to be bound to be modkilled anyway. For now though: ##vote: Shady Sands

KJ's read on Mementoss is kind of a lazy way out as he was lurking at the time of the read.
Did Mementoss' recent posting change your read kingjames?

In regards to the other lynch-candidates:
Kush would have been pretty high in my scumlist, but he looks like his town meta that was linked earlier.

I have no clue about reading VE, but he looks alright to me, nothing screams scum.

On austin I am kind of split, but I would prefer to not lynch him today because he is quite an asset to town (if he is town aligned of course). While his absence and stuff had been worrying I would suggest waiting for day 2 on him.


Read as: Oh he would have been high on my lynch list b/c I think his play has been scummy, but someone else came in and said his meta is scummy so he's p much town to me now.

Make sense to you? Doesn't to me.


Did you read the linked stuff? It is pretty easy to come to the conclusion I did in my opinion. Suit yourself though if you do not believe me.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
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October 02 2012 16:00 GMT
#669
meh, shady, I'll probably save it for post-game talk....

@Kreb:
I disagree with your suspicions on austin, looking at the way he contributed (as soon as aperture 2 deadline was over) he gives me the usual townie austin vibe. While it is true that the entire Node wagon looked weird as it got that many votes over nothing ( and then unvotes again), I do not think that it must have been scum-directed. Approaching deadline we were much more split among node/shady as the austinwagon never took off beyond the majority-treshold (IIRC).
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 02 2012 16:03 GMT
#670
EBWOP: fail for hitting post to early >_>

@Kreb:
Did austin's recent posts change your read? What do you make of his apprehension of your post?

@Sloosh:
I'll be giving matt another look.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 02 2012 16:14 GMT
#671
Well looking over matt's filter was really quick, for one of the persons considered a "vet" he really has done awfully little. I must admit he really managed to completely blend in and not grab attention (at least to me).
So Matt, who would you lynch now? Why?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
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October 02 2012 16:44 GMT
#675
holy shit austin, reading >_>
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 02 2012 16:54 GMT
#680
uhh, too much posts and I am too tired to handle it right now, I'll be (re-)reading tomorrow. stupid timezone >_>
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 03 2012 13:46 GMT
#892
lol
##vote: marvellosity

Sooo give me some time to do some funky connection stuff with marv's filter now.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 03 2012 14:20 GMT
#900
Sooo let's see what marv did this game:
- jumped and voted for shady (confirmed town)
- pushed KJ (confirmed town)
- defended kush with meta-arguments
- defended VE against talis (while putting some suspicions on him as well)
- gave some defense for sloosh
- pressured/flip-flopped on austin
- jumped really early onto the Node wagon
- dialogue with kreb regarding the node wagon.
- added pressure onto matt

That was a short summary of marv's filter, hopefully I missed nothing.
So what can we dissect from it?
First off VE looks pretty bad imo, the friendly banter between them and how marv immediately defended VE against the accusations of Talis (which were admittedly a bit weak) are things which kind of raise red flags for me.

Kush looks really bad as well. I will probably have to ponder on him for a while again before coming to a final verdict on him, but getting defended by confirmed scum when there was the real possibility of a kush wagon taking off is looking bad. Obviously marv could have also tried to gain town cred if kush would have flipped green. And with that thought I am in WIFOM territory, so I'll just keep an eye on him for now.

I think node looks pretty good now, with how easily marv jumped on him, still would like him to do something resembling scumhunting in any way though....

Now with the interactions he has with kreb regarding the node wagon, he really seems intent on insisting that it was if a scumwagonattempt then it would have saved shady instead of austin, while the way the votes came in kind of confirm what marv said, I still think that there could be the possibility of Kreb's scenario of austin/marv/ve as scum-trio....The confusing thing for me is now that austin reads as pretty townie to me, but if VE were to flip red Kreb's theory suddenly makes a lot more sense.

The interactions of marv with matt/sloosh were kind of a nullish tell (at least to me) both have not contributed much, so I would like both of them to step it up, I mean the term "vet" should really mean something (this goes out to VE and BC as well obviously).

Conclusively said, I will keep my eyes on VE, Kush and austin for now.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 03 2012 14:29 GMT
#904
On October 03 2012 23:21 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 23:21 austinmcc wrote:
On October 03 2012 23:20 Mementoss wrote:
On October 03 2012 23:18 austinmcc wrote:
Okay I was definitely hit last night. Thanks for the prot.


How do you know this? If its not beneficial to me or the town don't answer.

Lol marv

##Vote: Marvellosity

Because I got a pm that said so.

Same way anyone knows they got rbed or shot or whatever.



So are there any further claims of notices? VE claimed RB and you claim a hit.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 03 2012 14:56 GMT
#908
There is still KP missing I think.
Risen was not shot by scum (see marv's reaction lol)
I have a hard time believing that both KJ and annul got shot by scum, much more likely that at least one of them ate a vigshot.
Austin got shot and was saved.

So that makes it a total of 3 shots, assuming a vigshot on KJ/annul there is one more mafia KP around unaccounted for (at least if this game more or less follows the pattern of other big games)
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 03 2012 15:04 GMT
#910
On October 04 2012 00:03 ToutEstChaos wrote:
##fos shiaopi

clearly not reading thread

very unlike his town play


Anything to add?
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