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This is going to be good =) | ||
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also is the deadline now set in stone for 22:00 GMT (+00:00) | ||
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I not really sure about Risen vs. Prphlz. Seems like they both overreacted to something the other did. I don't like Risens green claim so early on. It serves no purpose what so ever and only gives scum a better chance to hit blue (yes he could have lied to confuse them, but then again serves no purpose for town if he is lying - just makes him a liar) What did catch my attention that no one else seems to have noticed is this (minor thing): On September 06 2012 06:04 Risen wrote: EBWOP: Awww, day 1 post totally ruined my flavor :/ which indicates that Risen had prepared the post _before_ the day post. Why would anyone prepare a post before day 1 post? Town have nothing to prepare since they have nothing to hide. These two minor things makes me believe Risen might be scum. What I also find interesting is how both Zephirdd and V7 have already taken sides. O_o How can one takes sides when both sides really have no substantial arguments? And both took sides with equally weak reasons. Zehpirdd with the "Kenpachi rule extended" crap. V7 with "Either you don't think at all or you are aggresive scum hiding it poorly" which really doesn't say anything. So far I think Zephirdd, V7 or Risen is leaning scummy. | ||
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On September 06 2012 19:06 Bluelightz wrote: Opinion's on Risen: While, I usually take the "HOLY SHIT WTF?" route on VT claims d1, I think this claim, is a legitimate claim, because: 1.His defensive behavior once voted back from prplhz. 2.Him actually pointing a finger to a guy who support's him. Also gonna check zeph's filter after GSL and MW3 playing. Both points can be scum traits aswell as town traits. I still see his VT claim as stupid and unnecesary. | ||
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On September 06 2012 21:12 Ange777 wrote: @Dirkzor: I have seen other players prepare posts before the day 1 post regardless of alignment. I don't think this can be taken as an indicator for scummy behaviour. It can if said post was altered as it clearly was in Risen's case. There is no way he could have know about prplhz's post before the game so that was added after the game started. either way I agree this is a minor thing. It just rubs the wrong way... What do you think about people taking sides on the prplhz vs. risen thing and the reason given? | ||
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##Vote Risen On September 07 2012 01:33 Risen wrote: Oh... I was just going with the flow man :/ Also, that entire post I just made was directed under the impression that you thought I was scummy here. Apparently it was directed at Keirathi. My previous post makes little sense now :/ He gives a reason why he made a post quoting a post made AFTER his initial post. When called out he finds another place where is is "called out as scum": Keirathi already pointed out his backpadelling on the whole prplhz-is-scum deal. It's some mighty stupid pressure if you don't think he is scum | ||
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I don't put much stock in prplhz's first post. If you read the entire sentence its clear its sarcasm. I'll read the thread and tell you who is scum. That is impossible (or stupid if he is scum) to know who is scum and thus the sentence is clearly sarcasm. Also he have been here and active beyond just defending himself. I still think you have done scummy things Risen. That or blatantly stupid moves as a townie. You CLEARLY changed your view on prplhz from "He is scum. I'm 65% sure" to "I never actually thought he was scum". Same goes with your "You called me scum *here*" "Oh that was after my post? Then you called me scum *there*!" I actually don't like keirathi all that much either at the moment... But that should and shall not change my view on your level of scummyness, Risen. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On September 07 2012 04:06 Ange777 wrote: Ok, guess I have to assume Risen is just misusing the term bussing. @Risen: The more you post the less I am convinced of town motivation for your play. @Dirkzor: What exactly is it in Keir's play that you don't like? Keir started out by stating that it takes him time to make an opinion. He used "I think..." "I don't know..." and such a lot in his early post as pointed out by marv. He then suddenly have a clear cut opinion about Risen. While I agree that Risen is the scummiest so far the change in his posting is interesting. Mostly that. And gut feelings. + Show Spoiler + On September 07 2012 04:10 Risen wrote: This is such a scummy post. Why are you and Keirathi so intent on taking what I say and twisting it? Scum brothers defending each other? Note the bold. "Oh I'm suspicious of him (if Keir flips scum you have something to point to) but I'm not voting him. I'm also not going to state exactly why I find him scummy." Also, just brushing off prpl's entire first post as sarcasm? What? Why not do the same for me. Every one of my posts has been sarcastic. What a joke. Why is the post scummy? You fail to say that beside throwing random theories around. I AM suspicious of him since I have no clue who is scum and he have done stuff that rattle my scumbells (See above). And regarding prplhz's first post. Maybe sarcasm is the wrong word, but I find it perfectly clear that the sentence you bolded and commented on - "everybody should write something then i'll read it tomorrow evening and tell you who is scum" - is not meant to be taken literally. I'd compare it to someone saying at the start of any bold game: Give the ball to me and I'll win this for us. Everybody knows its not going to happen that way but its a sign of confidence. I'm not brushing of his entire post. Just that line. Rest of prp's first post is just him being lazy. So the whole post is super non.allignment telling in my opinion. + Show Spoiler + On September 07 2012 04:13 Risen wrote: TOWN DIRK AND KEIR WOULD NOT CONTINUOUSLY MISQUOTE ME! The whole line. "I never actually thought he was scum, he was just the scummiest guy in a thread of like 3 posters so he got the ball rolling." I think it's pretty clear that by saying, "When I made my first post prpl was the scummiest guy in thread. I didn't actually think he was scum, but as he sounded scummiest it seemed best to choose him as the target of my pressure." After re-reading I'll give you that it can be read like you say. But I'll also give Keir that the context of the question from Zephirdd lead me to think you meant prp's scummyness during the whole thread, not just the first post. I'll just disregard this info as it could be either way. + Show Spoiler + On September 07 2012 04:31 marvellosity wrote: also to this, no. They are common mafia abbreviatons and if you don't understand them that's your bloody problem, not the other players, and it's down to YOU to fix. What I meant is that using WIFOM or OMGUS just leads to confusion because people misuse them and people have different opinion about what it actually means. Confusion leads to anger. Anger leads to hate and hate leads to the Dark Side! | ||
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That and he attacked BL's post very hard when BL was actually saying that he believed Risen's VT claim. And the VT claim. Which is stupid. No reason or need for him to claim. | ||
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On September 07 2012 00:54 Risen wrote: 1) Defensive behavior? Where? I'm just telling prpl to stop digging himself a hole. 2) I don't know who scum and town are beyond myself. I'm going to point out anything and everything I find that's scummy, including about people who "support" me. Why on earth would you find that scummy? Looks like you're reaching trying to paint something as scummy when it's not. Not cool my dude. Lol, and then I like how you point out the same exact thing I do in your case post. Real nice. Bolded: He didn't. You clearly thought that BL was "out to get you" and this made a defence. That was not even close to what BL was doing. Getting overly defensive when not needed IS a scumtell. Just because I haven't moved my vote yet doesn't mean I'm not reconsidering constantly. I'm not "insisting" on voting you. I voted you once. So stop acting butthurt and loose the aggresive hurt tone in your post. Its getting old. Same goes to you Marv. | ||
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Will re-read everything tomorrow morning. I want BL and zephirdd to post more! | ||
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This is possible the worst quote chain in the entire thread combined with the worst defence I've ever seen. Can't believed I missed this the first time around. Risen why don't you just answer the mans question? Keirathi got a point and the timeline he was setting up fits what I also read in the thread. | ||
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On September 07 2012 22:07 marvellosity wrote: Dirk, tell me about Zeph dear. Zephirdd always tickles my scumbells. Like ALWAYS. I can never read him. Same this game. He gives a bad reason for voting prplhz over Risen - scummy. He then talks about the stupid kenpachi rule for the rest of his posts. He complains that no one is posting while not really producing anything himself. | ||
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(actually anyone can answer, but i want V7 to answer the most) | ||
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I won't be here at deadline since I will most likely be drunk... | ||
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On September 08 2012 01:23 Risen wrote: Dirk is giving me scummy feelings. 1) Says he most likely won't be voting me at deadline, still hasn't unvoted me and now he's conveniently going to be absent around deadline. 2) Outs his "town reads" openly in thread. As a town player there's no reason to do this you'll just get your town reads shot. As scum there's plenty of reasons to do this since it makes the person you're calling town like you. 3) Calls Keir scummy, and does nothing about it. I don't think there's a possibility of a Dirk/Keir scum team at this point in time, so I'm going to ##unvote We'll see what continues to develop in this thread and I'll place my vote on someone. I still have Keir as my top scum read, but Dirk is trying so hard to make it up there. Way to overreact. 1) Never said that. Go back and read what I wrote. I wrote I was constantly reconsidering (which should be true for everyone - except scum). I never said I would unvote you. Conviently absent my ass! It's friday night. I get drunk Friday night. 2) I've outed 1 townread. And that was when the discussion was about that person. Also no one is going to shoot BL if he is town. At least I would never do that as scum (been there in "I'm a cop you idiot mafia"). 3) Yes I think keir have done scummy stuff. I think you (risen) have done scummy stuff. Only got 1 vote... You are reaching now Risen. You're reaching for stuff that isn't there and making blind accusation about my privat life. Like I would lie about it to win. For your infomation Mike Sheridan is playing in Tivoli at Fredags Rock (Friday Rock) tonight and I'll most likely go hear him play. Yes I said you looked better from posting after my vote but you are still the most scummy in the thread. This morning when rereading I found your top notch defence of Keir's accusation (that you still haven't answered btw) which was super scummy. And now a weird vote on me? ##Vote Risen (For emphasis!) | ||
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On September 08 2012 01:39 Risen wrote: I disagree, I think he'd leave you alone entirely if he was your scum partner. I don't think it's smart for scum teams to bus each other day 1. I'd bus the living shit out of my teammate in a 2 scum setup. At least I wouldn't leave my scumpartner alone. (Again see I'm a cop you idiot mafia even though that game played out where I HAD to bus basicly) Don't think about what scum might or might not. They do all sorts of crazy things (see drazerk) | ||
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