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Rewok
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Rewok
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Alright, time to say hi :-) My name's Rewok. I haven't played with any of you before, so I'm gonna take this first post to tell you about my strategy for this game. I'll also give my reads, etc. But that's gonna be further down. Basically, I see the game like this. The goal for mafia is to stay alive. The goal for Town is to get rid of people. Knowing this, Town tends to be more bloodthirsty from the front. While Mafia's best strategy is to target specific people. Town strategy tends to lean towards "getting blood" right away. Because each person gone could kill a mafia. Worst case scenario, you know one person isn't a mafia. And you can get a better read from the filters. Mafia tends to want specific people dead, right away. They have better information. So they tend to skew towards "let's kill THIS PERSON. Otherwise, let's pass on the ban this round." (A little about me: I like to be careful about my scumreads. I'll only give a scumread if I've got a VERY strong hunch. My goal isn't to lynch townies. It's to make sure we use each lynch to nail a mafia and get this game over with quickly. Also - with every townie left alive.) Now that I've revealed this, the meta is gonna change. However, using the current filters from before I posted this, here's what I got: - - - - - - READS << ps. holy filters, batman!! >> - - - - - - GRUSH - Pretty noncommital, right now. Thing is, there's not much to comment on, yet. There's a LOT of posting... but mostly just initial posturing. I can't give him anything other than a null read right now. I'll watch him, but it doesn't look like grush is going to be involved in my vote either way in D1. DOYOUHAS - His first few posts feel pretty town to me. (We don't have enough info for his meta, or to see if he changes face based on the first lynching.) Thing is, he's let another player under his skin already, haha. So by the end of N1, we're gonna know whether he's town or mafia. null read for now. But I don't see this guy surviving to N2 - simply because of lynchings or night killings. HAPAHAULI - Hap's got a cool filter. He starts out with a good town feel. I like that he's out to get lynchers. You get some pretty safe blood there. You get blood on D1 (which is what Townies want to do) and you're mitigating risk on your Townie bros. Good minmaxing. But then he's got a couple anti-blood posts, later on. On their own, I would never view anti-blood posts as anti-town. It's the inconsistencies which has me wondering right now. So far, Hap is the first guy I'm watching for my D1 vote. No FOS. No vote. Just a more than casual interest. null read on Hap. FORUMITE - We already get along well  He hasn't gotten started yet, though. He's just gathering info and getting reads. Not gonna be on my radar for D1 unless things get hot and heated during voting. null read on Forumite.sloOsh - Super aggressive. A dissenter. I can't see this being good Town behavior, except to disguise the fact he's Town. Lynching him D1 would give us a more peaceful game, for sure. I can't really see a downside to it, right now, unless he's a blue and holding back about it. Especially if he's already throwing around votes without a FOS, null read on Sloosh, but I'd be OK with a D1 vote on him. (It looks like TL MAFIA meta says "Don't vote the noisy townie"... I don't always agree with that. I'm simply going with my own reads and strategy.) GRAVAN - Lurker. Nothing to see here. Also a good D1 lynch. null vote on Gravan. Z-BOSON - I like going for quick blood. I like that he's targeting Sloosh, for reasons I gave on his filter. Even with the unvote, I like the psychology behind the initial vote. I'm cool with Boson right now. I'm probably not going to pay much attention to him D1 unless something big happens and I get a good read. null read on Boson. LVDR - No post since his intiial flurry. He's working, sleeping or scum. Not much else to say. null vote on LVDR until 4 or 5 hrs before D1 vote. If he doesn't have a vote, he's Mafia. BLACK MAMBA - Really smart move, bringing over previous meta. Makes it impossible for you to get a base read on him. But this dude it out for blood, haha. He's gonna be really defensive. If you vote for him, or mention him, you're getting FOSd or voted. In fact, I'd be amazed if he doesn't vote for me based on this post. The thing is, based on my current strategy, he feels pretty Townie to me. null read on Black Mamba. BROODKINGEXE - Feels like a smart player to me. I like the rationale behind his vote, as well. This just means I'm not gonna have anything to say about him until I've got a lot more material to go on. null vote BK. TOADE - Intent on getting people to play his game, through force. He's either a pain in the ass Townie or Mafia. But you can't tell until he gets a few more posts under his belt. Gonna ignore his filter until voting - because it looks like he's a lynch candidate already. null read Toade. BLOODY - I like the rationale behind fakeclaiming. Whether he's Mafia or not is gonna depend on how he acts when his vote turns south. (Cuz it's looking like that's what's gonna happen.) null vote Bloody. MATTCHEW - He's got his troll face on haha. If he's Town, a lynch will get us a cooler Town. If he's Mafia, he's not doing too good with that, either. Good candidate for a D1 vote unless some real info surfaces. null vote Mattchew. AUSTIN - Got that lurker. Vote him out - no loss. null vote Austin. OTTOXOL - Lurker. Nuke him. null read Otto. ... so many gdang filters... BILL MURRAY - I agree man. If this wasn't my first game on TL, I'd be doing the exact same thing. You guys get the skulls cracking very, very quickly... null vote Bill Murray. DARTHPUNK - Defending a policy vote is def stupid. But you're letting them suck you into the cyclone, too. You're either a pretty decent Mafia or you're getting hosed as a Town. null vote Darth. MAVERICK - Need more posts. The first one is pretty noncomital, which doesn't mean much. It all depends on how he plays his "let's look at Toade" position. Cuz that was the hot train for the minute. If it turns out he hitches his wagon to the hot train every time, I'll feel he's Town - but kinda worthless. null vote Maverick. GOODKARMA - Nothin much. I'm starting to fade after this many filters. :/ But I've read his filter through the other filters. He's a good dude to watch, but not enough info to lynch yet. null vote SHAOIPI - Nada. He's going to get wrapped in the drama super quick. Not a bad mafia tell, but it doesn't make him non-town. null vote Shao. IMALLISON - We miss this dude? null vote SHADY SANDS - Nothing to see here. null vote STRONG AND BIG - Happy Birthday man! :-) null read MILTONKRAM - I like transparency, but I'm not gonna watch your meta. Transparency is a good Town or good Mafia play. I believe it's just a good play to make in general. (Hence my post.) Which means there's nothing to read on you until your next post. null read. HOPELESS - Super early vote on very little. Just out for blood. This feels Town for me. null read. - - - - - - - - - - - - The thing is, now that I've made this post, I'm changing my strategy because this post changes the meta. Welcome to posts that lead strategy instead of the other way around ;-) Also, since we're new to gaming together, I'm going to let you know: I don't have a massive amount of spread out free time during the day, I work as a freelance writer and business owner. So my free time is only in chunks. I WILL stay caught up on this post and the filters. I WILL make sure to post my reads, votes, etc on time. But I will also do less posting, bigger posts. Like this one. (Although from here on out, I'll only update filters which I change from null or if I change my feeling on them.) Hopefully we can lynch some mafia out, round one ;-) PS. I don't want to get caught up in the BS so I'm gonna stick most arguments out. However, if you've got any questions or direct talk about my posts, I'll def answer it. TL;DR: I only posted twice this thread. Suck it up and read it. | ||
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Rewok
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We gotta get some blood today and Mattchew's BS seems lynchworthy to me. ##vote: Mattchew. PS. I bolded a bunch of null reads, but about 6 of my reads leaned one way or another. Not defending the fact I wrote a really, really long post  | ||
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When I say Town Read or Mafia Read, it's gonna be a firm read as far as I can tell. I'm not looking to change or update my reads every 1/2 day. My goal is to make reads that stick, which simply requires more info than we're got so far. (Zero votes and lots of bickering.) | ||
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Rewok
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If Mattchew turns up Mafia, my next vote is Otto, for sure. Likewise, I'm not voting Ottow if Mattchew turns up green / blue. | ||
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We're voting Mattchew today. Pretty much no getting out of that. If he turns up scum, Ottox and a few others could be on the chopping block. If he's town, we've got a whole new set of reads. But it seems to me that our whole strategy hinges on how Mattchew turns up after he's killed. Is there any way we can get another read / another kill set up for D1? One which doesn't hinge on Mattchew's alignment? I'm asking because you guys are way more familiar with the way TL mafia runs. | ||
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Plus, he spreads a fair amount of dissent - I see his names in multiple filters. He'd be my reco for D1 / N1. But if someone has a better reason for someone else, we should talk about this. Think about it: if we get two kills day one (two GOOD kills) we're looking at a huge advantage. | ||
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Rewok
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@BC - I agree. We got a good D1 going on. That's a fair point, too. My bad. I didn't think this through all the way. I wasn't going to post at all - I guess I should stick with that instinct haha. | ||
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Rewok
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Until Otto is cleared or dead, I don't have much else to add. Great D1 though :-) | ||
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Personally, I've had Mav on my radar for awhile because of posts he had on both Mattchew and Ottox (will find them later - gotta run to work now.) And this recent ShaoPi thing seems rather fishy as well. So here's my ##vote BKE, with the readiness to unvote it and switch it up if we find someone better. | ||
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Rewok
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@ Rewok - Kinda surprised you don't have any solid reads after your long post earlier in the game declaring everyone "null" Any updates? Town/Mafia reads or otherwise? Yeah man. I've been staying read up - you guys talk a LOT. Hap is one of my town reads right now, because of how Otto flipped. Mav is my main mafia read - I'm still at work, so it's gonna be a bit before I can get proof. (Although it looks like a couple of you guys see it, too.) I'm truly surprised Otto flipped green. That was kind of a bummer. And let's not forget Cobbler got grabbed N1, too. I'm scanning filters now but I remember there was a whole thread of guys trying to lynch BC at one point. I'm going to look into that group for my next solid scum read. As far as who's town? Not 100% sure. You guys seem to play with a lot of meta, so I'm working my way through multple threads at this point :/ All I can say is BKE is my 2nd choice, Mav is my first and I'm pretty solid on Hap right now. | ||
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Rewok
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We had groups of posters trying to lynch both BC and BM early on. There's gonna be at least one or two reds in there. Anyone who defended BM, BC and then voted Otto would look pretty suspicious to me. Enough to get a vote, at least. | ||
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He flipped red. | ||
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Rewok Since BKE flipped town, this caught my eye: On September 08 2012 01:27 Rewok wrote: TBH with you, I'm a little hesitant to lynch BKE. I'll vote for him because it's better to get some blood than no blood, but it wouldn't hurt to open our search up a little bit. Don't we have more than 24 hours left? Personally, I've had Mav on my radar for awhile because of posts he had on both Mattchew and Ottox (will find them later - gotta run to work now.) And this recent ShaoPi thing seems rather fishy as well. So here's my ##vote BKE, with the readiness to unvote it and switch it up if we find someone better. First he's hesitant to lynch BKE. Then he wants to vote for him because "it's better to get some blood than no blood" - NOT because he thinks BKE is mafia. He then points fingers at two people (Mav and ShiaoPi). Vigi shot anyone? I get where you're coming from. After today's vote, I'm pretty shaky on my position as well. The truth is: I made cases for Mattchew, BKE and Mav. Pretty much the same as every other town in this game. If you're going to try to prove me red, you've got to prove every other player as well (minus the lukers.) All I can say is this: I'm gonna need a ton of reading before I put down another vote like that one. | ||
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Rewok
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##vote: Forumite | ||
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Rewok
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Vote: Gravan | ||
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