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On July 31 2012 06:49 Promethelax wrote: oh shit yeah! How goes it my perfect buddy. not good lost last game. | ||
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On August 02 2012 20:14 Promethelax wrote: to those of you in this game, I want this in my filter before we start. I generally work Mon --- Tues 10a-530p Wed 7p-6a Thur 9p-6a Fri 9p-6a Sat 7p-6a Sun ---- Sometimes I work sundays and sometimes those 7s and 9s get switched. I am going to do my best to never mention this in game because I got lynched last game partially for giving too many RL excuses for my absence which I generally feel is good play however I don't want to do it again since it got my lynched when I was town. fos promthelax preemptively making excuses for lurking is Mafia behavior. | ||
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I have come around in my thinking from previous games and agree that lynching lurkers is a good policy to have. When the town is inactive or loses its active players it is very easy for the scum to start leading the town. In my first game my scum buddies were able to dominate the conversation. In my last game that son of a bitch hapa cost me my perfection and i have been in mourning ever since. Its redemption time On August 06 2012 10:12 Shady Sands wrote: Also, why is Promethelax so quiet? In the last game I played him, he racked up 10 posts in the first six hours of the game. Alright lets not go accusing people of lurking in the first 2 or so hours into the game. We have 48 hours and while i want to see activity its important to remember this is forum mafia there will be times people can be active and not active. On August 06 2012 10:24 Lvdr wrote: I guess I misunderstood. I thought golbat was a mafia that got lynched d1. I'm really just trying to get some opinions going. You can easily go back and see the results of that game. takes 2 seconds and now people are going to start questioning your effort http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=353315 Speaking of previous games i would like to know how yourharry is going to aproach this game. If we are going to get your logic that makes no sense where your "sure" sombody is town or mafia i say we lynch you know before your logic festers and contaminates the town. One of the reason i lynched calgar in my previous game is because he actually used your logic in his own defense. Unforgivable in my view. Your thoughts? | ||
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On August 06 2012 10:59 Shady Sands wrote: I'm not accusing Prome of lurking, I'm just saying that his behavior this game doesn't match up with his behavior last game (when he flipped green) and his behavior in XIX (when he was scum). That's exactly my point. In XIX Prome was scum and led discussions actively from D1. In XXII Prome was town and posted a ton of fluff, and posted a bunch of weak cases. In XXIII, Prome is not posting. Weird Or its been only three hours and its sunday night and he dosent work on monday so he is getting drunk. Or like he stated before the game starts he some times works on sundays. | ||
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(havent been able to sleep since the last mafia game hence the sleeping pills) | ||
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Its important to remember that a policy is not and end all be all statement if we dont want it to be. The fact is the more we force scum to post the more likely the things they post will start not making sense. This is because their goals are diffrent than ours. If we construct an enviroment where the scum feel it is neccesary to post they are more likely to screw up. That said were as the game goes on we are not gonna lynch someone just because they are lurking we will have more information and we will take the whole case into consideration. | ||
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TolEranceNA Sideni If you are scum well fuck you but if your town its time to get active. Now i know it can be intimidating and you probally dont know what to say but you aint helping us be being silent. Just jump in the water feels great. | ||
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Im espcially curious of you sideni since you seemed kind of anxious to get the game started before but now your a no show. | ||
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Care to enlighten us on why? Also you didnt vote right. | ||
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On August 07 2012 07:50 Dandel Ion wrote: While YourHarry plays the scummiest out of all of them, I just can't determine if he actually IS scum. Thats the problem with yourharry. We keep him around and he will just confise the town with his nonsense. I dont see why would should invest him and carry him to the end of the game. Plus his play from this game has been less than desirable. He made no response to my calling him out early in the game ( A sign that he dosent read the thread) and his hard to follow logic i think will just be detriment going further. On August 06 2012 23:10 YourHarry wrote: He is sure that my post was a joke, but still suspects that I am scum at the same time. Scum Harry may intentionally mess up the quotes to make it more difficult for town, in which case I won't be joking. Town Harry would accidentally mess up the quotes and joke about not fixing the quotes. So it seems to be a forced argument to show commitment and throw fake "reads" out there. This is scummy because scums have harder time coming up with genuine reads because they have to build a case on someone they know is town. He basically just shows how it can be shown as wifom and then just throws a vote out there for no real reason. I want people going forward that will stand behind logic and look to strong cases. ## Vote Yourharry I see we only have one lurker left. You see how sidini didnt get his head bitten off just post dude | ||
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On August 07 2012 09:36 Lvdr wrote: Synyster apologizes for fluff... with more fluff. YH: the whole point of being scum is to confuse the town. Being a confusing townie only makes people suspicious: as you no doubt have noticed. iamperfection: other than YH's incompetence, who do you think is actually mafia? I want to make it clear that i still think yourharry is the best bet for flppping to scum. also to the defense that this is his town "meta" we dont really have a yourharry scum meta to go off now do we. | ||
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On August 07 2012 10:11 YourHarry wrote: That's how I play. When I make a read, I post it. Sometimes I ask others to guess the reasons behind my vote. And sometimes, reasons behind my suspicions can seem trivial, especially in the beginning of the day. And as Hapha pointed out, I throw in different theories out there and see what people think of them and which one sticks. And they do a good job generating plenty of discussions early in the day. To be fair though, the second link referenced by "Just to jump onto somebody else right after" was actually me fixing my previous post regarding my suspicion on mkfuba. I guess that means you didn't read my original "messed" up post, because the contents were identical. And it seems that iamperfection seems to be blaming me for us losing the XXI game. I admit that I did not have a very good track record in voting or even in my reads that game. Though, I did suspect that calgar that game was town, which basically got ignored, understandably. I got some coaching though, and I think I am improving. You may disagree, but let's see how I do this game. I have a confidence in myself this game. Just trust me simple question Why was calgar town? | ||
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On August 07 2012 10:24 Hapahauli wrote: Please keep discussion of XXI and other games out of this thread. Your question doesn't do anything for this game. Also, I asked you some questions about your suspicions on YourHarry - could you please answer them? Thanks! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874¤tpage=13#249 (Here for reference) What can i say i disagree with you. If he could answer that question with logic i would be more inclined to believe that there is some logic to his madness. If he cant i think my points stand. Do i have a note here that says he is scum no but i also dont have anything from anyone else that someone else i 100 times better so i think my logic stands on getting him out of the game. | ||
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On August 07 2012 10:33 Hapahauli wrote: @ Sideni - I don't mind you voting early, but try to make sure you're availible near lynch-time (~20 hours from now) to change your vote if necessary. I like your case against iamperfection, and I question the motives of his vote. He charges in when a bunch of people are FOS'ing YourHarry for very suspect reasoning (bad play as opposed to mafia motive). FOS iamperfection Hapa i know your afraid of revisting that game because of your scum meta but its definitly fine to revisit it. Like i said before if he could explain how he came to that conclusion i would be more likely to believe there is a method to the madness. Introducing cahos is a scum motive in my view. Thats what yourhrry does with his posting he introduces chaos. Do i have some other motives for lynching him yes. Do i not like how he plays yes. Do i not want yourharry by my side if god forbid i make it that far yes. You might not like that hapa but its the truth. Also i did not charge in i called out yourharry in my very first post and he ignored it. yourharry is my case his posting in this thread just confirmed to me what i already knew. He is reckless and i want him out. | ||
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On August 07 2012 11:37 Lvdr wrote: What do you mean there are only 3 mafia? Why can't everyone be mafia! In all seriousness, my FOS point to only 2: synyster and iamperfection For the record, YH and golbat are likely townie reads in my opinion. edit by way of refresh damint hapa sniped me At least give us some reasoning buddy. | ||
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On August 07 2012 11:51 Lvdr wrote: I will still observe them (just like everyone) but Synyster and iamperfection are the ones I am confident enough to FOS. Golbat is average suspicion, and YH is inscrutable. Right now (and I reserve the right to change my mind when more posts are made) I think iamperfection would give us more information. If he flips red, YH looks much less suspicious. Hard to believe he would bus YH that hard D1. Synyster is still a good lynch because of the cases brought so far. Unfortunately, because he has said basically nothing, the connections would be less obvious. Voting trends are always useful though. That makes no sense why would me flipping red have anything to do with yourharry. If you believe what has been said ive been using reasoning outside this game and the fact i dont think he is a good player to lynch him. Yourharry really hasent commented on the situation that much. | ||
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On August 07 2012 12:11 Hapahauli wrote: @ iamperfection: Ya know, this post isn't going to go away just because you tried to pick a fight with Lvdr: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874¤tpage=14#269 I still want answers for the following: 1) Are you accusing me of being mafia? 2) You called out YourHarry in your first post - why did you do this before he even posted/ was worthy of suspicion? 3) And while we're at it, what do you think of the cases against Synystyr? 1) no. My thinking was this hypothetically harry flips town then boom someone can attack you with meta from the last game thats why i think you could be worried about that. 2) i dont like the way he plays i think ive made that quite clear. Did i have an agenda to get him out of the game yes thats the truth. You dont have to like it. its not nice. its not even fair but i think the longer yourharry is in the game he does more damage than good. You dont have to agree with that but im just stating my thinking behind why i wanted him lynched. 3)Synyster has five posts. Its hard to say he is "scum" cause there isnt much to go on. I think he might be somewhat fearful in posting. His accusations seem to focus on productivity which is wierd because he is very unproductive himself. If forced to guess i would say awful town. | ||
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