I've been reading through the thread, and I'm stuck on a vote on either prplhz or wgb, though a day one lynch is always based on very fluffy arguments.
Initially wgb was overreacting to the accusations against him (wtf self vote), plus his now very defensive posture - scummy behaviour in my book.
Prplhz has since been fucking up quite badly... lol. Not sure how to take it. No matter if he is scum or not, he is not playing to his team's advantage.

On August 05 2012 04:57 Toadesstern wrote:
what about this?

We lynch Mr 95% mafia: Prplhz

I said he's mafia. Erandorr seems to agree, WBG posted most recently that he thinks prplhz is mafia as well, sloOsh thinks prplhz is mafia and prplhz thinks WBG is town, which is REALLY odd unless he wants to tell people later "told ya", which is one of the reasons I am questioning the wbg lynch.

If Prplhz flips mafia we're all happy.
If Prplhz flips town we lynch/shoot WBG + talis

I can go on board with this idea, though I'm veeery tempted to vote wbg coz of that self vote.
Toadesstern will of course also be very high on my list, should prplhz flip town - considering how hard he is pressing for this lynch.

XsebT

Denmark2980 Posts

August 05 2012 12:00 GMT

#729

I agree that countdropula's voting pattern and reasoning during d1 is pointing towards scum. He is all over the place with his accusations. Lazermonkey's analysis points this out quite well.
Talismania, I was too inactive during d1, so a "default scum" accusation is probably in its place. If you keep having concerns, just ask me more direct questions. I'm not quite able to keep up with you guys when it comes to posting. I will be brief and to the point when posting.
That said, I don't know why you would throw out so many scum accusations so early on, while already in the spotlight with wbg from d1. You should fear for your own survival in this game. If you're town, I consider the accusations a bad move.

XsebT

Denmark2980 Posts

August 06 2012 05:42 GMT

#831

Talismania is scum. Even quite an obvious one.
He is sidestepping accusations so hard and instead is just throwing around bullshit accusations to distract us. Dont fall into this trap.
About wbg who Ive accused before... Im not gonna take my concerns back completely because his actions are still highly questionable, but talis is much more urgent and obvious.

This is a vote on talismania.

XsebT

Denmark2980 Posts

August 06 2012 05:58 GMT

#834

Especially the list that I responded to last time. There I also asked you to ask direct questions instead. The best you could come up with is "who do you think is scum". Well, Ive now made that quite clear.

XsebT

Denmark2980 Posts

August 06 2012 06:13 GMT

#837

That he was role blocked? Thats a cute story and i case of it being true, horrible mafia play.

XsebT

Denmark2980 Posts

August 06 2012 06:27 GMT

#842

Yes, in calling you out as mafia I also suggest that you lie. Jeez lol.
That list came at a time where your main hope was to change our focus from you. Though you were fortunate enough to not be in the main spotlight due to other peoples fuck ups. Take this as a slight compliment. Because listing without much basis at such an early time in the game as it was, would be plain stupid as a townie.

XsebT

Denmark2980 Posts

August 06 2012 06:37 GMT

#844

On August 06 2012 15:17 s0Lstice wrote:
xsebt,

what is your read on Toad right now?

I feel like I need more to conclude things about him. It seems like he is really trying to catch scum. Voting patterns will be essential for calling him out I feel.
But again, quite indifferent atm. And you're not gonna mislead me more than this.

XsebT

Denmark2980 Posts

August 06 2012 06:59 GMT

#848

Yeah, that was a blow to him, but Im not gonna conclude much from it. Calling him very high on my list before a d1 lynch was overdramatic by me. Atm Im not placing him on either side - especially since he shouldnt be our focus today.
Im gonna sleep a few more hours now.. Heavy hangover. :-\

XsebT

Denmark2980 Posts

August 06 2012 07:06 GMT

#849

Wbg, I expressed that I wanted to lynch both you and talis from day one. However, especially you at that point. That was based off a d1 read though. I dont see how Im inconsistant.

XsebT

Denmark2980 Posts

August 08 2012 19:26 GMT

#1153

Damn. Sorry that I was kind of away during the last 24 hours of the vote (not that I would have changed my vote the slightest with what I'm read afterwards). I probably shouldn't be playing these games with such an activity demand.
Anyway, it bugs me how easy you all are. All a mafia has to do in this game is sit on his ass, barely defend, and wait for someone to make a shitty argument against a fellow townie and then back him up in the accusation. And the damn band wagon begins.
My stance on Talismania remains, and how you guys are unable to look through all his bullshit is amazing to me.
A decent mafia will tell you everything and nothing, bullshit as much as he wants and have a logical backup.
I accused him yesterday and I was unable to keep up the argument because I still wasn't home (which I just got now btw).
This is how it kind of ended and this is how it went past all your eyes:

On August 06 2012 16:24 talismania wrote:

Show nested quote +

Ok cool this makes you town I think as a scum player should know the correct argument for why I would still be scum. A scum player should try to link me to the night kill of sloosh in some way, but xsebt completely ignores this. Basically scum knew that by roleblocking me, they would have a roleblock claim from me in public. Therefore they have come into today prepared to make the following arguments: 1) That my repeated calls for medics to protect sloosh were a gambit to distance myself from the NK, which was double-stack and 2) That by having the scum roleblocker roleblocking within the scum team I could claim RB'd without fear of couterclaim (they could also argue that sloosh was RB'd or something too) and that I did this to further get towncred, which they would argue I needed after D1.

Xsebt hasn't thought this through at all, unless he's being cleverly dumb. I suppose it's still possible that scum were completely unaware about RB notifications but I find that unlikely. In any event, I'm going to chalk xsebt up as misguided town.

Step 1: Refute argument
Step 2: Say the one who accuses you is town and misguided
Step 3: Backup town who has got it all mapped out and right
Step 4: Town kills town.

Come on guys. Would you please not fuck up again tomorrow?

To make it clear, I believe Talismania is mafia.
I'm also highly suspicious of s0Lstice because of how he reacted to my accusations of Talismania. How he instantly defended Talismania and tryed to throw off the argument, while I was accusing Talismania in the thread like:

On August 06 2012 15:09 s0Lstice wrote:
xsebt

Show nested quote +

what do you make of that?

and

On August 06 2012 15:34 s0Lstice wrote:
I still want your read on Toad, xsebt