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I would be curious about the sample size you base your conclusions from iGrok. Bold words from you  @Hiro Your idea with controlling the itemgrabbing for town sounds really good, supporting it as long as we can get some good way to distribute it. We also got our first pick -ShiaoPi | ||
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Also regarding the split on hyrule I do not think it would be beneficial, spreading makes sure that at least some of us will get tornado damage( since it is random) also there is no benefit for spreading randomly, we will get stock changes by the next daypost and it would be much better for town if we avoid unnecessary damage -Shiao | ||
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On July 03 2012 01:15 ShiaoPi wrote: Thinking about the whole random damage stuff, I guess there really is no way to avoid the damage. But I would suggest all piling up in one spot, so if one gets damage all get it. It would add more transparency to the whole thing and we can easily make out if someone tries to avoid it. If you don't like that idea, I am also open to the spread I guess. With more than 1 person in each zone, at least we can confirm if somebody dodged the zone if he did not get damage when the other one did. Given toads reluctance to allow randomizer, we should probably get along with the plan iGrok laid out. At least it is a way to make item distribution more transparent. goddamn :S -Shiao | ||
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I think everyone voiced support for the distribution of the item areas as well. So where would you like to have us? Or am I just derping hard now? -Shiao | ||
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If someone does not follow and has a different number of stock than the rest of us, they better have a damn good reason for it | ||
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On July 03 2012 04:04 Risen wrote: Also, I'm confused on this everyone go left thing for position. All of town potentially losing stock is way worse than the potential of mafia losing some stock, right? I would say that stock for mafia is more valuable as they have less in total compared to town. | ||
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As I said though, it's all me tonight, and it's past time to post something concrete. Risen- I think he is town. His poking and prodding of iGrok kick-started a lot of discussion. He has been bold and fearless in his disagreements, when it would have been so much easier to be passive, agree with the plan (like everyone else was doing), and not be worse off for it. iGrok- Shiao thought he had some weird ideas, but didn't think scum. This was from earlier, and I don't think it had changed. I don't think he is scum. Regarding his derp: it was either intentional or unintentional. Intentionally going against his own plan when it would be so bloody obvious that he did so is plain stupid from both a town or scum perspective. It must have been unintentional. I don't think he would make such an egregious mistake as scum. Think about it, he has since day 1 grabbed town by the balls and said 'this is what we should do, and here's how you know you can trust me.' It would be extremely bold, and require a LOT of work and attention to detail to keep up the facade. If he was actually going for that play style, you can bet your ass he'd have gotten his location PM right, because he'd be hyper aware of any miss-steps. This means it was unintentional town. Over and done imo. I want to lynch either Mister Saturn or grush today. Mister Saturn- His anger at iGrok seems very weird. It is honestly not difficult to think through what iGrok did, yet Saturn is all about shooting him. Yea it sucks he hasn't posted why he carried you, but is that really a reason to shoot him? Him overblowing the mistake looks scummy to me. grush- not much to say here. I've played with him before and he doesn't post much even with only 1 game going on. He is also in LVI, and is silent there too. I want him dead, plain and simple. We will be sorry if he is there late game. Flying spaghetti monster help us if he gets any items. Some other errata.. kingdedede's openness with the Yoshi claim gives me a warm fuzzy feeling. They are right that bus-driver can be crazy destructive in town hands, which makes the claim/transparency all the more pro-town. They claim they will explain all of their switches in detail, so I'm waiting to see what comes of that. Regarding talismania, I'd like to see more from him. He's begun to hunt for scum, but has been relatively quiet. I will say I that I don't like how he relies heavily on mod motivations for role splitting. This is Toad's game and unless you are in his head you won't know how he wanted to run this. We can make some generalizations about the typical set-up, but the first tool for scum hunting is and always will be the filters. I'm keeping my eye on him. Cephiro commented on Shiao's post about the bus-driver thing. I'll leave the final word to him obviously, but I will say that we had talked about Yoshi in our hydra QT and about how damaging they can be as a town-member. We were hesitant to pick Yoshi based on this, for fear that we would get towned, and end up possibly doing more harm than good. Others may be more confident of their skill here, but I can understand his thought process given our discussion. -s0L | ||
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Also, there are two scum. Grush may be scum, I don't have any idea. I don't think anybody does. I don't want him around in the SSB version of LYLO. Depending on how talismania spends the rest of day 1, I might replace grush with him. I want to hear what Shiao has to say on him too. | ||
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I agree with you that the way he is hopping around doesn't look good. He picked you to carry earlier on in the day, claimed you were scum. Some time elapsed, then he was wanting to kill talismania and grush. Since he provides no reasoning, it's impossible to know why his mind changed, but it could be as simple as that. He got his first scum read on you, chose to carry. Somewhere in the interim he decided you weren't scum, and switched horses. He can't uncarry you until night 1. His derp looks town to me. I'm not shy in saying it. That's why at this point I'm assuming he just changed his mind on you, and in his hubris didn't think he had to explain. He promises that he will next day, and when he does I'll adjust accordingly. | ||
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On July 03 2012 07:15 iGrok wrote: shoot me if you want, it was a derp I think top left as the first zone and so I put myself there. You should probably be able to guess why i picked you, you're scum. On the bright side of this derp, scum's at 2 stock lol. Posted at 07:15. Like I said, some time elapses, before he switches to talismania. On July 03 2012 07:44 iGrok wrote: I can't tell my reasoning on saturn until tomorrow. Top picks for lynch are ##Vote: Talisman Just under a half hour. It doesn't take a lot of time to change a mind. He speaks about Saturn in the interim, but everything he says easily fits to the idea that he has changed his mind. He wants to explain why he carried him when he did. He said before that he had a feeling, which can reference when he chose to carry Saturn as well. Since he voted talismania he hasn't said saturn is scum as far as I can see. The explanation is going to be important. I think it's possible he changed his mind on the fly, but I can also see how frenetic it looks, like chaffing under the pressure. But back to the derp.. I've made wrong reads before, and I may be wrong here, but I maintain that it looks strongly town. -s0L | ||
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Anyway, I'm off for the night. I'm dead now in LVI so I'll have a lot more time for this game. -s0L | ||
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HE IS DEFENDING iGROK!!!!! LYNCH HIM!!!! Seriously, if you think iGrok is scum why don't you try to flip him? solstice shared his read on iGrok as a townie who messed up, while I would consider him a nulltell from his reactions after the item/stage events concluded. I would be in favor of waiting and seeing the explanation he promised. Now what of this read makes us scummy? If you think igrok is scum lynch him... Regarding my choice of lynchtarget I would say grush deserves it. I know that he is always playing lurky until called out, so the earlier we pressure him, the earlier we can get some stuff to work on. Until now he has been terribly unhelpful. ##Vote: grush57 -Shiao | ||
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