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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
June 24 2012 02:00 GMT
#1
Hello all,

My dad owns the house next door to the one he lives in and he is renting it out.

WiFi is to be included with the rent, but my dads wireless router's signal doesn't penetrate the walls of the houses, so we were going to be connecting a WiFi repeater/extender of my dad's WiFi via ethernet with a long cat 5e patch cable (already own this) and place it in the second house. We will be running this inside a PVC pipe or something along those lines underground to protect it from the environment, that's of no concern.

I've looked around a little bit and seen a couple of possible options that include putting custom firmware on our router or super simple solutions.

The main restriction is that my dad's wireless router and the WiFi extender have to communicate over ethernet and can not just repeat it over the air, as the materials the walls of the houses are made of block the signal.

As I will have to be purchasing a second piece of hardware that provides this service obviously, this will be coming out of my pocket, so I'm hoping for a non-expensive solution.

I know some routers vender firmware have repeater functionality, but I don't want to buy a whole other router; if I can buy a dedicated wireless device for this I'm sure it would be cheaper.

Does anyone have any suggestions for doing this? I'm pretty tech savvy, so I don't mind dealing with custom firmwares and such, I just want a cheap solution that someone can verify works.

Thanks!.
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sundersoft
Profile Joined November 2011
91 Posts
June 24 2012 02:20 GMT
#2
Couldn't you just connect the second router's WAN port to the one of your main router's client ports? This will make the second router act like a client on your main one. Also, it should have a different SSID than the main. If you want to forward ports you'll need to configure the forwarding on both routers.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
June 24 2012 02:34 GMT
#3
Yeah, agreed with the above.

By the way, it's kind of misleading to say you need a Wi-Fi repeater. It's not repeating Wi-Fi that you want. You just want something that passes traffic through both ways, via Ethernet on one end and Wi-Fi on the other.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 04:21:09
June 24 2012 04:18 GMT
#4
I don't have a second router. If there's no better option than to purchase a second one I will, but I don't want to drop $70-100 if I don't have to. This was the only viable option as far as I'm concerned, but I've never actually worked with any other solution. I don't really need another router for the second house, just wireless to be accessible there. If I can pick up a wireless device that serves that purpose for only $30-40 that would be preferable.

I'm not quite sure I know what you're saying in the last part of your post Myrmidon, but yeah, I mostly just wanted this "repeater" to be an additional antenna for my wireless router that is powered over ethernet.
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sundersoft
Profile Joined November 2011
91 Posts
June 24 2012 04:50 GMT
#5
On June 24 2012 13:18 Grobyc wrote:
I don't have a second router. If there's no better option than to purchase a second one I will, but I don't want to drop $70-100 if I don't have to. This was the only viable option as far as I'm concerned, but I've never actually worked with any other solution. I don't really need another router for the second house, just wireless to be accessible there. If I can pick up a wireless device that serves that purpose for only $30-40 that would be preferable.

I'm not quite sure I know what you're saying in the last part of your post Myrmidon, but yeah, I mostly just wanted this "repeater" to be an additional antenna for my wireless router that is powered over ethernet.


The price range for wireless n routers on newegg is about $30 to $50 (not sure how it is in Canada). You could also use a wireless g router to save some money.

A repeater has two external antennas so I'd expect it to cost more than a router. What you're asking for is basically a router.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
June 24 2012 05:15 GMT
#6
On June 24 2012 13:50 sundersoft wrote:
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On June 24 2012 13:18 Grobyc wrote:
I don't have a second router. If there's no better option than to purchase a second one I will, but I don't want to drop $70-100 if I don't have to. This was the only viable option as far as I'm concerned, but I've never actually worked with any other solution. I don't really need another router for the second house, just wireless to be accessible there. If I can pick up a wireless device that serves that purpose for only $30-40 that would be preferable.

I'm not quite sure I know what you're saying in the last part of your post Myrmidon, but yeah, I mostly just wanted this "repeater" to be an additional antenna for my wireless router that is powered over ethernet.


The price range for wireless n routers on newegg is about $30 to $50 (not sure how it is in Canada). You could also use a wireless g router to save some money.

A repeater has two external antennas so I'd expect it to cost more than a router. What you're asking for is basically a router.

This is correct. You can get a wireless N router for like 30-50.

I didn't watch the video, but its ratings are alright. You basically need to run an ethernet wire from your house to the other house and set up the router according to the video. The process is called cascading routers and uses the other router to generate another wireless signal if I remember reading it correctly. I was actually helping someone out today and ended up reading about this, it should be possible with any router.
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 05:18:52
June 24 2012 05:18 GMT
#7
Well, a Wi-Fi repeater is something that receives Wi-Fi signals over the air and retransmits them over Wi-Fi. That's not what you want. edit: in practice, many consumer Wi-Fi repeater devices probably also can act as access points.

You just want a Wi-Fi access point (Wi-Fi on one side, Ethernet on the other), or just a "wireless router" (aka router / wireless access point combo) where you're pretty much just not using the routing features.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 05:27:15
June 24 2012 05:24 GMT
#8
I was imagining a small device with one antenna and one ethernet port as I would imagine it's cheap. Something like this:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833156159CVF
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704048
etc

I guess it's not much cheaper than another router though. Hmmm.

edit: Oh okay, thanks for the clarification Myrm. I kind of made them all out to be synonymous terms. I just want an access point then.
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sundersoft
Profile Joined November 2011
91 Posts
June 24 2012 17:16 GMT
#9
On June 24 2012 14:24 Grobyc wrote:
I was imagining a small device with one antenna and one ethernet port as I would imagine it's cheap. Something like this:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833156159CVF
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704048
etc

I guess it's not much cheaper than another router though. Hmmm.

edit: Oh okay, thanks for the clarification Myrm. I kind of made them all out to be synonymous terms. I just want an access point then.


Both of those can operate as access points according to the description.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
June 24 2012 17:22 GMT
#10
Yeah I think either of them should do it.

Thanks all~
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