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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
May 31 2012 16:38 GMT
#20
This looks like a great game.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
June 08 2012 03:34 GMT
#74
I'll /in in the thread so everybody knows I'm playing.

Please don't shoot me.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 18:02:34
June 08 2012 17:47 GMT
#82
That's twenty players, right?
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
June 08 2012 20:37 GMT
#86
I think we should bet on who the first person to shoot and who the first person to die will be.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
June 11 2012 02:03 GMT
#110
I have an idea.

I shoot the smurf first day unless he reveals his identity.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
June 11 2012 15:22 GMT
#172
With that in mind let me categorically state I will shoot anyone claiming miller after our starting phase


Is anybody else bothered by this?

There's no reason you should "veto" a decision because you can shoot.

Regardless of the topic, it stunts discussion, which is really scummy.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
June 11 2012 16:49 GMT
#186
Yeah, having the two people whom we think are most suspicious shoot each other seems much better than allowing a bad townie choose who lives and who dies.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
June 11 2012 17:30 GMT
#196
He was trying to copy my reason for being suspicious of Rastaban, but he confused Rastaban with chaoser.

FAIL
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
June 11 2012 17:35 GMT
#198
There's nothing wrong with copying as long as you do it accurately and add on your own ideas.

I have an irrational fear of being misquoted. >.<
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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
June 11 2012 20:26 GMT
#233
I never thought of that, Gonzaw. o.0
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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
June 11 2012 20:54 GMT
#236
Mr. Smurf, you merely say:

"I'm going to shoot you unless you start scumhunting."

Or something like that.
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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
June 12 2012 01:29 GMT
#270
You can do it, Kenpachi, you'll just be killed the next day and hated forever.
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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
June 12 2012 04:21 GMT
#308
The post says that the days ends when the first person is killed.

Couldn't we just keep talking but not kill anybody for a few days?
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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
June 12 2012 14:17 GMT
#405
RoL is most likely miller, as I doubt the mafia would make up something like that; the only suspicious thing is that now he appears exactly like a normal mafia goon (appears red and can't shoot), we might want to kill him in the future if we don't kill anybody who has the gun stealing role.

Originally, I was leaning toward Gonzaw being scum, but his posts have gotten more townie. However, he's still the most suspicious person, so I agree that we should have him shoot.

If we can't find an optimal person to shoot, I would encourage him to shoot into risk.nuke, Kenpachi, and payl.

Obviously we wouldn't allow him to choose who he shoots.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
June 12 2012 14:40 GMT
#408
If you really want to shoot me or something at least wait 24 hours into D1 so you don't waste the whole day and so we can put some sense into you.

His insistence on waiting until most of the day passes before shooting.

I personally don't find people's opinion on certain plans (or policy lynches, etc) alignment telling at all. So no matter how much someone talks and talks about plans, I can't analyze their alignment based on their behaviour, if everybody else is discussing plans as well.


This seems like the genuine thing a mafia wouldn't say.

+ Show Spoiler +
What if all of us claim if we have a gun to shoot or not?

Like said before, most blue roles are not that strong (the good ones don't know their sanity); but the VT/Miller roles are the strongest since they control the "lynch", and are our only way to win this game (other than a random vigilante out there).

I think they did it like this:

1)Everybody claims if they have a gun or not
2)The people that claimed they have a gun, take turns each day to shoot the most scummy one from the pool of the guys that don't have a gun
Here we can use that "random thingy" site Palmar made for iGrok's game (if someone's good enough to copy the script and shit, maybe make it public):
Each day we make a list of all the people that claimed they have a gun, and randomize it. That way we randomly choose who to shoot from that list.
That way mafia can't try to fake-claim that they have a gun and manipulate their way to never shoot at all, because the process of choosing who to shoot is random so if it's their turn to shoot they can't get away with it (this will disencourage scum fake-claiming they have a gun).

This is the beauty from the plan:
Yes, all the VTs/Millers will be outed for SK/scum, and so will the blues....
...however the blues will be mostly intact and survive the whole game.

Why? Because in the pool of blues most of the scum (goon and RBers, etc) lurk. If they shoot blues at night, that pool is reduced so they have more chances of being shot at day.
Not only that, but because of what I said earlier they'll most likely shoot VTs (check that post I made).

So blues are free to make their actions at night (not all of them can be RBed, plus they shouldn't claim their roles either) to help us with what we can, while we systematically kill those scum in their group.

Once we kill all scum in the "blue" group (3 of them right?), we are set, leave the rest of those blues alone and take a look at the VT/Miller claims to get the GF and the SK.

Since only non-gunners will get shot at day, and only gunners will get shot at night by scum, the blues in the non-gunners group can use:
1)Their medic saves on the gunners
2)Their watcher/tracker/cop checks on the gunners

1)Because those are the only ones getting shot at night, so they have a greater chance to save them
2)Because once all the scum from the non-gunners are killed, we need to find the SK/GF. If blues check those players, then it's more likely they can find the SK/GF for us so we have it easier later.


That was the way it would work in the 1st game.
Now that I think about it the "SK or scum can steal guns at night" thing if RoL says the truth can change it a little bit

What do you guys think? Any way to improve it if it's worth it? Or is it unworthy?


This is an excellent plan, which I believe would give town a great chance of winning; I doubt a mafia would suggest it.




Also, something I found along the way.


Pretty sure

1) We'll run out of things to say or just go in circles
2) Ace will probably put a limit on like 48 hours and then we just "no shot" and move straight to night
3) Someone will probably get trigger happy and shoot anyway.

I want gonzaw to shoot. We already had 24 hours of discussion since night 0 happened, we've got our suspicions. Let's go gonzaw, chop chop.


Chaoser wanted Gonzaw to shoot at dawn, effectively killing 24 hours of discussion.

That's exactly what scum would want to happen.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
June 12 2012 14:41 GMT
#409
On June 12 2012 23:37 Dirkzor wrote:
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On June 12 2012 23:17 MrZentor wrote:
RoL is most likely miller, as I doubt the mafia would make up something like that; the only suspicious thing is that now he appears exactly like a normal mafia goon (appears red and can't shoot), we might want to kill him in the future if we don't kill anybody who has the gun stealing role.

Originally, I was leaning toward Gonzaw being scum, but his posts have gotten more townie. However, he's still the most suspicious person, so I agree that we should have him shoot.

If we can't find an optimal person to shoot, I would encourage him to shoot into risk.nuke, Kenpachi, and payl.

Obviously we wouldn't allow him to choose who he shoots.


I'm confused... You want to shoot Gonsaw as he is the most suspecion to you right now.

But you also want to shoot one of the lurker if we fail to find an optimal person to shoot.

Isn't gonsaw an optimal person if you find him scummy? Or are you just covering your ass in case we do end up shooting gonsaw and he flips scum so you can say "Yeah I was totally supporting that lynch!"


You misread what I said. I wanted to have Gonzaw shoot somebody else.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
June 12 2012 14:46 GMT
#411
Gonzaw should shoot chaoser.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
June 12 2012 14:52 GMT
#414
Chaoser said that he didn't want to wait 24 hours and that he wanted Gonzaw to shoot a few minutes after the day post.

Check your facts.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
June 12 2012 15:01 GMT
#416
Do you agree that Chaoser is scummy?
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
June 12 2012 15:47 GMT
#426
Because 3/4 times mafia can't shoot, confirming they're either mafia or a blue role.

*Assuming we're correct about the 1 godfather thing
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