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ZergOwaR
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 07:59:20
April 24 2012 07:35 GMT
#1
Found this one on the news today, and had to find a non-norwegian site for it aswell

Translation follows

This is a story about what must be one of the most unlucky people ever. This is a guy that moved to the states because he was bullied at his school in Oslo. In 2002 he studied in Chicago. He was assaulted by two people while jogging, and in September the same year his school kicked him out because he might be a terrorist. He sued the school so that he might continue his studies elsewhere.

He has spent the last seven months in Navajo County Jail, mostly isolated, with handcuffs and foot chains, convicted of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. The weapon: His moms rental car.

On Saturday 24th of September last year, John and his mother were driving from Los Angeles to Chicago in John´s Volvo. His mother was driving, when a warning light comes on indicating something is wrong with a tire. She decided to exit at the first opportunity, Winslow, Arizona. However something is wrong with the steering and they crash in the central reserve.

They are taken for a check-up at Winslow hospital, then they need a rental car. A taxi driver took them to Flagstaff where they could pick up a rental car, then they headed back to Winslow to get their belongings. On this day, the annual music festival was going on in Winslow. John mistakenly turns into Winslow´s 2. street going the wrong way down the one way street full of people enjoying the festivities. John drives slowly but some people still hurl abuse and make threatening gestures towards the car.

When he tried to turn into the Auto Shop where his Volvo was towed, a crowd surrounded the car and his mother panicked and told him to get out of there. He backed up against a curb and got a flat tire. He stopped a few meters away from a hot dog stand. There is a woman and her kids inside the hot dog stand, the car never made any contact with them or the stand. Many of the witnessess thinks this is deadly dangerous driving. They drive around the block, enter 2. street the right way and stop. The car is surrounded by people. Michael Mendoza, saw what happened from his store and had chased the car around the block thinking John had attemted to kill his wife and children. John has the window rolled down and is reciving verbal abuse when Mendoza shows up and punches John in the face, spewing blood all over the steeringwheel, breaking his nose.

He panicks, hits the gas, turns in the street and leaves as fast he can. During this maneuver one woman surrounding his car has her toe run over, another woman was scratched as she jumped away from the car. Those are the only injuries.

John calls 911. Right after this, at least 10 police officers show up with their weapons drawn. Both his mom and John is arrested. John has not been released since.


It turns out that the angry witnesses are all related or friends. His lawyer Criss Candelaria, a former DA of 22 years, calls it a scandal. The honrary consul of Norway to Phoenix, Professor George Olander at State University of Arizona says the case is shameful for the United States, and that a ticket for reckless driving would have been enough.

Tomorrow he will recieve his sentencing, a minimum of five years.


For me this seems like a so far out there case, I can bearly belive it.
Some of the reckless driving (i guess you have to call it that no matter what) seems to be caused by people scaring the shit out of them. And the injuries due to the kid getting punched in the face, before then driving away in panic.. hitting some toes?

An all those police officers.. to stop someone that called 911 himself.. voice that was more afraid than angry.. and from what i could see in the clip, not even slightly aggressive

are these people actually so void of reason?

update:
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10073343

here we have name of the kid, and a small interview.. hope this helps prove that this might be real
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IamVirGin
Profile Joined March 2012
119 Posts
April 24 2012 07:41 GMT
#2
I saw this yesterday too, and it is nothing short of completely insane.
mewo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States221 Posts
April 24 2012 07:44 GMT
#3
Arizona is quickly becoming the new Florida of states.
BreakfastBurrito
Profile Joined November 2011
United States893 Posts
April 24 2012 07:45 GMT
#4
yeah he doesn't deserve 5 years for that, holy shit.
he did drive (slowly) through a crowd of people and the wrong direction at that, but it was a mistake, not an assault. Punishment is way too severe. Everything is so arbitrary and emotionally charged these days, people don't sit down and talk about what happened.
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screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 07:48:10
April 24 2012 07:47 GMT
#5
Any source for this?

Wow... reminds me why I am such a recluse! We live in a culture of fear. Almost my entire neighborhood acts like they are paranoid schizophrenic (and I don't live in Arizona).

Imagine trying to raise kids in this type of environment lol.
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Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 08:01:26
April 24 2012 07:49 GMT
#6
Cuz this is MY united states of facism. DIDIDIDIDIDI DODODODO DIDIDIDIDIDI.

EDIT: Seriously though, some US souce on this would be preferable since this could be horribly baised.

User was temp banned for this post.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
April 24 2012 07:52 GMT
#7
Was that story really on the news? They don't even give a last name for the guy or any cited facts. I find it hard to believe that any news agency would publish such a story. Looks more like some guy's blog post.
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 07:55:00
April 24 2012 07:53 GMT
#8
When he tried to turn into the Auto Shop where his Volvo was towed, a crowd surrounded the car and his mother panicked and told him to get out of there. He backed up against a curb and got a flat tire. He stopped a few meters away from a hot dog stand. There is a woman and her kids inside the hot dog stand, the car never made any contact with them or the stand. Many of the witnessess thinks this is deadly dangerous driving.


That string of sentences doesn't make any sense ot me, especially the conclusion of the witnesses. It makes it sound like he was going 45 and skidded to a stop nearly hitting a hotdog stand with people, which I'm doubting because he had a flat tire. That, and all the witnesses happen to be related, hmm...

Edit: I'm assuming the story was translated, which explains the rough presentation.
qwertzi
Profile Joined March 2011
111 Posts
April 24 2012 07:55 GMT
#9
i understand that people are stupid and shit, but wouldnt at least a judge put an end to this nonsense?
Pillage
Profile Joined July 2011
United States804 Posts
April 24 2012 07:56 GMT
#10
There is not nearly enough info on here to make any reasonable conclusions at all. However that will not stop a bunch of people from jumping on the "Fuck America!" bandwagon because that's just the nature of the internet.
"Power has no limits." -Tiberius
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 08:02:35
April 24 2012 07:57 GMT
#11
On April 24 2012 16:47 screamingpalm wrote:
Any source for this?


No

It's an extremely long pile of horseshit. At best, most of it is false and spun heavily.
ZergOwaR
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway280 Posts
April 24 2012 07:58 GMT
#12
On April 24 2012 16:52 BlackJack wrote:
Was that story really on the news? They don't even give a last name for the guy or any cited facts. I find it hard to believe that any news agency would publish such a story. Looks more like some guy's blog post.


updating OP with link to norwegian news.. with interview of the kid in jail
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KaRath_
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia245 Posts
April 24 2012 08:01 GMT
#13
Lesson in life - having more friends at witnesses sometimes create truth

Poor kid, if that s actually what happened he doesn't deserve any jail time
I wasted my nights, you turned out the lights, now I'm paralysed, still stuck in that time...
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 08:06:47
April 24 2012 08:05 GMT
#14
On April 24 2012 16:49 Tobberoth wrote:
Cuz this is MY united states of facism. DIDIDIDIDIDI DODODODO DIDIDIDIDIDI.

EDIT: Seriously though, some US souce on this would be preferable since this could be horribly baised.

can we stop with the retarded country bashing already? seriously its getting a bit out of hand when anything that happens in the usa its "herpa derp derp USA omgawd derp herp!" I don't bash a country for any single thing they do.. obviously small happenings in one part of a country are not interelated with the rest of the country and its population.
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
April 24 2012 08:06 GMT
#15
What the hell?
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Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
April 24 2012 08:08 GMT
#16
This is the news article on a Norwegian site: http://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10073343 (Norwegian).

I also saw this news on Norwegian news Television yesterday, they showed photos of the arrest and a 2 min interview with the arrested Norwegian.
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
ZergOwaR
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway280 Posts
April 24 2012 08:10 GMT
#17
On April 24 2012 16:56 Pillage wrote:
There is not nearly enough info on here to make any reasonable conclusions at all. However that will not stop a bunch of people from jumping on the "Fuck America!" bandwagon because that's just the nature of the internet.


I hope the link to the norwegian site helps abit at showing what happened, sadly it might be hard to get that well translated.

True i have been unable to find complete proof of what exactly happened, but for me the video shows little to no aggresion from the kid.. while high aggresion from the swarm of cops.

but since the claimed offense here is insane driving and trying to kill people.. i would like to see a link of some site explaining the other side of this story
dig dig dig dig dig dig die!
HAUER
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark208 Posts
April 24 2012 08:10 GMT
#18
rofl what a hick town.
(sym): i think of myself as a savant of the internet
Dyllyn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Singapore670 Posts
April 24 2012 08:15 GMT
#19
and people ask me why i don't want to study in the united states
scv rush ftw
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
April 24 2012 08:17 GMT
#20
On April 24 2012 17:05 sc14s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 16:49 Tobberoth wrote:
Cuz this is MY united states of facism. DIDIDIDIDIDI DODODODO DIDIDIDIDIDI.

EDIT: Seriously though, some US souce on this would be preferable since this could be horribly baised.

can we stop with the retarded country bashing already? seriously its getting a bit out of hand when anything that happens in the usa its "herpa derp derp USA omgawd derp herp!" I don't bash a country for any single thing they do.. obviously small happenings in one part of a country are not interelated with the rest of the country and its population.

1. It was a joke man, calm down.
2. The reason why there's a lot of USA bashing is not, as you might think, because europeans like to nitpick some rare isolated events. It's because stuff such as this actually comes up so ridiculously often, all over the US. Yeah, it might be a very bad representation, but then again, we know a lot about your political system etc. The reason you're not picking on Sweden, for example, is because you probably don't know too much about Sweden, we aren't in the spotlight like the US. That's simply the downside of being a superpower, everyone has their eyes on the US.
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