EPTthis is a C9++?
I have never been modkilled and don't intend on starting here.
The only thing I ever read from the OPs are whether there are PMs or not
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this is a C9++? I have never been modkilled and don't intend on starting here. The only thing I ever read from the OPs are whether there are PMs or not | ||
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On April 21 2012 08:18 Bluelightz wrote: Predicting im going to live to lylo Predicting im going to lose town the game somehow You didn't lose the game for town in Palmar's game. Dirkzor played a solid game, and left himself in a position where he had contributed more than either of the other two players alive at lylo. My challenge for you this game is to have zero 1 liners. If you are going to post, make sure it actually serves a purpose. Do some analysis and make sure that your opinions have actual reasoning behind them, and show that reasoning. Otherwise I hope you are a mason -_- | ||
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On April 22 2012 11:08 Forumite wrote: Discussing a potential problem in the first posts of the game is not a waste of space, it´s there to get the discussion going. Calling out a few players is also nothing wrong with. FYI to me it looks like prplhz is playing exactly as he usually does as town. You on the other hand are grasping at straws, you make a weak case on prplhz to divert attention from yourself, and you are generally not acting town (why DID you vote yourself?). It´s very, very early in the game, and only about a third of the players have shown themselves so far, but your play so far scream scum. ##Vote MrZentor Much of this I agree with, though not the last sentence. Zentor does not scream scum to me, at least not yet, and following this course through likely only nets us a dead townie. As you say yourself, only 1/3 of the players have even posted, so no need to be hasty. In other news, hydras should definitely be signing their posts. Also, masons need to be smart with their claims. I don't think I've ever actually played as town in a game with masons, so I'm not sure what the best protocol is. Presumably you need to somehow breadcrumb who your partner is in case you die, yet not make it obvious enough to draw hits. Living to or near lylo with masons is a huge deal. Ace, do you fear the masons in this game(if they do exist that is)?  | ||
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On April 22 2012 11:29 MrZentor wrote: You say I wanted to divert attention from myself by making a case on prphlz, but the reasons that I voted for myself is to draw attention to myself. Why did you want to draw attention to yourself? | ||
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Where's Sandro? On April 22 2012 23:57 Ace wrote: Any comments on my post about Masons fast claiming Day 2? I don't actually see the benefit to the quick claim. However, I am assuming that the masons are good enough to leave a trail of clues which will point to their partner if they die, yet is impossible to find if they are alive. Since they can talk together, it really shouldn't be that hard. If that's the case, then there is no reason for them to claim, as once they claim they will become instant targets. The longer they stay alive, the higher towns chance of winning is. I guess I just don't see the actual benefit of them claiming. This assumes we have any masons at all. I'm not sure how bugs is generating the mason roles, as a normal C9++ has the option of an Innocent Child(mod confirmed townie), which is not in the OP. For those who don't really know how the setup is generated: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C9++ | ||
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On April 23 2012 00:08 VisceraEyes wrote: Wanna walk me through how your plan works if there are no medics/cops present Ace? Keep in mind that there ARE no medics, only potential jailkeepers. A small distinction, but an important one. On April 23 2012 00:21 Bluelightz wrote: prp: trying to find scum game, so if anyone can point out one please do :3 Prplhz was scum in PYP Interesting. Mind you that was a somewhat strange game since there were 3 different scum teams. | ||
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I was serious when I said I was willing to vote VE, however prplhz needs to show up or he might get the vote as well. More to come. ##vote Visceraeyes | ||
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On April 23 2012 08:53 Sbrubbles wrote: That said, I suppose it might be a good strategy to claim if the masons are two relatively new players (like myself), in that it would draw fire away from more veteran town players. Agreed. | ||
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On April 23 2012 12:39 Sbrubbles wrote: Radfield, you are the one looking the most suspicious to me right now. On the Zentor/prplhz exchange, you defend Zentor, but agree with Forumite on Zentor's case on prplhz being weak: Correct. I'm not sure what you find suspicious about that. Someone making a weak case is certainly no indication of them being scum, especially when that case is made in the first half of day 1. I didn't think Zentor's case was strong, yet I also didn't see Zentor as scum. However, both of those things may change with time. And now, you're indirectly accusing prplhz, even though there has been no case on him (besides Zentor's, which you implied was weak) and haven't made one of your own. What's up with that? Something about prplhz is tickling my senses, though I haven't reread the game yet. I started to last night, but was too tired to focus. So now I'm up early with the intention of putting in some time before work. Prplhz is simply a bit too quiet for my liking at any rate. Also, you were the first to offer to vote VE (without an actual explanation as to why), and waited until someone else appeared voting for him in order to actually cast your vote. Is this merely a coincidence or were you waiting for someone else to accuse and vote him in order for yourself not to stand out? My reasons are my own for voting VE, though they will materialize in the thread before the day is out. The short version is that I've played scum with VE lately, and so far this reminds me of that game. | ||
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On April 23 2012 16:22 phagga wrote: ok, catching up. game mechanics stuff: - Hydras should sign. Everything else lowers transparency for town. - After reading all the pros and cons, I'd support a mason claim day 2. Reason: Many Vets + 2 masons = too many targets to handle for scum. D3 might be too late because of counterclaim (depends on nightkills and SK situation). On to more important stuff in no particular order: Mr. Zentor: I don't like how his "really long post" was actually not long at all, but only full of quotes. If we ignore the quotes, the post was quite short. So why announce it as long? His case on prplhz was weak, and when asked a second time why he thought that prplhz was still scummy, he never answered. His style is unnecessarily aggresive. VisceraEyes: His Filter shows 5 ingame posts, which is more than I have, but unlike me he is notorious for being very active borderline on spamming, trying to direct people and generally being helpful to town. He is completely lacking these features this game. His townread post is suspicious, I can't remember him making townlists like this in the last games? His behaviour currently reminds of the Bastard game we just were in, where he was SK. Ace: I don't like how he has basically been talking about game mechanics and shown no interest in hunting scum. However, I've read some games where he was in (last was space station) and I think this is part of his D1 play? Not entirely sure. Radfield: He would not have shown up in this list was it not for sbrubbles points. I think they are very legit, and I look forward to Radfields reaction. This is the definition of a 'safe' post. Everything in this post is a popular opinion that has already been mentioned by someone else. It hits slightly on all the major points of this game, without going into detail on any of them. Zentor -> parroting Forumite and talking like Zentor is scum, yet not stating that explicitly nor voting for him. Visceraeyes -> following Toads lead(backed by me), and again indirectly talking as if Visceraeyes is scum(or SK), without actually saying it. Ace and Radfield -> again parroting others points and slinging a bit of mud towards two strong players, without actually calling them out. So phagga, what is your actual opinion here? You seem to think both Zentor and VE are scummy, yet are doing nothing about it. Additionally, I have responded to Shrubbles, what do you think of my response? | ||
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 ), but will do my best to be on both at lunch and after work today. | ||
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On April 23 2012 19:29 prplhz wrote: @Radfield I was unavailable most of yesterday. You can read my last town game (Space Station) where I also play a more lurky style. You have a really bad habit of wanting to lynch me on meta when I'm town though, I remember you wanted to do this in .. Election Mafia? too.  I can't make sense of MrZentor. I know that traditionally I'm biased when it comes to people accusing me. The thing about MrZentor is that I think that his initial aggression against me looks really fake and forced, I could easily write a bigger post on this. Is there anything about his initial aggression that seemed genuine to you? Do you have any reason to think he is on the townie side other than "scum don't usually attract attention to themselves like that"? I don't actually want to lynch you yet prplhz, but there is something about your play that is niggling me. As far as Zentor, he seems classically townie to me. Forumite was talking about how he was nervous and defensive, but I don't really see that at all. If anything, he seemed unconcerned with his defense, and unafraid of the ramifications of his actions. His case on you was a bit premature, but I appreciate the effort. Actually, upon rereading that part of the thread in context, his case does seem a bit forced. I think had forumite not pressured him to continue posting why he thought you were scum, he would not have posted his case against you. Again though, I don't really see it as a sign of scum. It's not a plus, but it's not enough to make me see him as scum. | ||
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As far as VE goes, he still has not commented since I put my vote down. My intention was simply to apply pressure and see how he reacted, but he has not posted/reacted at all. At this point I'm willing to keep my vote there. I don't think zentor is scum. | ||
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VE: My intention of voting you was simply to see how you would react to moderate pressure. In past games I've played with you you've gotten pretty panicky as scum when people start pushing you. My intention was to see your reaction, but I really couldn't follow through with any real pressure, since I haven't had the time. I never really intended on getting you lynched, but when you disappeared it seemed out of character for you. Either way I don't think you are a good lynch candidate for today. Likewise, I don't think voting Ace makes a lot of sense either. I've said this before and will say it again: Lynching a potentially strong player on day 1(in the absence of a strong case) is very poor play. In this game that would be myself, Ace and Sandro, as I would say all three of us are consistently strong town-aligned players. Lynching any of the three of us only does mafia a favor. Shrubbles actually looks ok to me right now. He really only has two posts, as two of his posts are back to back. Though actually now that I look at it, they are timestamped on the exact same minute... + Show Spoiler + On April 23 2012 12:39 Sbrubbles wrote: I don't think VE is scummy and I don't trust cases based solely on meta. There's plenty of time for him to respond to accusations tomorrow, so we'll see what he says. MrZentor's early game was both agressive and annoying. His case on prplhz was pretty bad in my opinion and the self vote thing could mean absolutely anything (and, therefore, only causes confusion at this point). Still, the only game I've played with him he was scum, but his play was (at least initially) more calm and poised, so I am unsure what to make of this. I don't know whether I'd vote for him or not, gotta think more on it. Prplhz, you're being pretty quiet, which is a bit strange considering your early hustle with MrZentor. Forumite made a case on him and wants him lynched; can you comment on it? What do you think of MrZentor? Would you vote for him? On April 23 2012 12:39 Sbrubbles wrote: Radfield, you are the one looking the most suspicious to me right now. On the Zentor/prplhz exchange, you defend Zentor, but agree with Forumite on Zentor's case on prplhz being weak: + Show Spoiler + On April 22 2012 11:35 Radfield wrote: That is some weak sauce Zentor. Much of this I agree with, though not the last sentence. Zentor does not scream scum to me, at least not yet, and following this course through likely only nets us a dead townie. As you say yourself, only 1/3 of the players have even posted, so no need to be hasty. And now, you're indirectly accusing prplhz, even though there has been no case on him (besides Zentor's, which you implied was weak) and haven't made one of your own. What's up with that? + Show Spoiler + On April 23 2012 08:43 Radfield wrote: I was serious when I said I was willing to vote VE, however prplhz needs to show up or he might get the vote as well. More to come. ##vote Visceraeyes Also, you were the first to offer to vote VE (without an actual explanation as to why), and waited until someone else appeared voting for him in order to actually cast your vote. Is this merely a coincidence or were you waiting for someone else to accuse and vote him in order for yourself not to stand out? + Show Spoiler + On April 22 2012 22:26 Radfield wrote: I'm down with a VE vote at this point. On April 23 2012 08:43 Radfield wrote: I agree with Toad, enough about the masons. If in fact they exist, they have enough information and opinions to make their own decision. I was serious when I said I was willing to vote VE, however prplhz needs to show up or he might get the vote as well. More to come. ##vote Visceraeyes How did you manage to write up that second post in 1 minute? I suppose you could have written it up beforehand, but if so, then why did you make two seperate posts? That makes no sense, so please explain. Marvellosity seems like an ok lynch, though in the newbie game(Newbie VI) I hosted, marvellosity really only posted one liners during day 1, which is what he's doing here as well. I'd like to compare and contrast the two game before I make any serious judgement. ##unvote | ||
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Honestly, I don't really feel like doing the last hour scramble, and I don't think we will net scum doing that anyways. I'd be fine with a marvellosity or bluelightz lynch, but I doubt that gets us anywhere either. However, no-lynching doesn't really do us any good. Right now we have lylo on day 4(assuming no SK), and if we no-lynch we still have mylo on Day 4. However, if there IS a serial killer in the mix, every extra townie will count. I'm just feeling a bit apathetic towards the lynch and don't feel like forcing through a mediocre candidate(again). Also, lynching me day 1 is never a good idea. Have you ever notice how pretty much the only time townies find me scummy on day 1 is when I am town? Man, I really don't have the energy for this right now. Apologies all, I will try to pick it up tonight. | ||
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